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  • Otters27
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    #36
    Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
    Look at all of the Republican Establishment's twitters....Every time they tweet something they get bombarded by Trump fans saying exactly that pretty much

    Theyre truly clueless and another level of arrogant if they don't think so

    More likely they would rather lose to Hillary with their choice than win with Trump as sad as it is
    Those crooks make me sick.
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    • BigJay
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      #37
      Both Cruz and Kash were +4000 at Heritage 2-3 weeks ago
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      • Otters27
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        #38
        Originally posted by BigJay
        Both Cruz and Kash were +4000 at Heritage 2-3 weeks ago
        Ya that was for the to be president. My bet is for the repub nom
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        • d2bets
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          #39
          Originally posted by Otters27
          Ya that was for the to be president. My bet is for the repub nom
          Cruz was 55 to 1 around NH/SC, even after Iowa. I think it was more than a couple weeks ago that he was 40-1.

          He's still 19-1 to be President while +320 to be nominee. Implies almost +400 to win if he's nominee.
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          • smoke a bowl
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            #40
            Originally posted by d2bets
            Cruz was 55 to 1 around NH/SC, even after Iowa. I think it was more than a couple weeks ago that he was 40-1.

            He's still 19-1 to be President while +320 to be nominee. Implies almost +400 to win if he's nominee.
            Should be about +4000 if he wins. He has 0 chance to win general.
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            • dante1
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              #41
              Originally posted by smoke a bowl
              Should be about +4000 if he wins. He has 0 chance to win general.

              well we agree with this one smoke, only so many crazies in the country. lol but they do make a ton of noise.
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              • 15805
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                #42
                Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                If Trump gets "screwed" out of the nomination after falling just short the Republican candidate loses most of Trump's supporters and therefore gets slaughtered in the general....Many will vote for Hillary out of spite, or a 3rd party candidate that maybe Trump joins up with or maybe even Trump runs 3rd party...Many will just give up and not vote at all. It all hurts the Republicans severely but that's what they want I guess

                But regardless.....Republicans can either roll the dice on Trump or lose the general election 100%. The Establishment is in a real tough spot

                Every statement of the above post 100% true.
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                • 15805
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                  Should be about +4000 if he wins. He has 0 chance to win general.
                  Cruz has a much better chance of winning powerball lottery than the general elect. But the be funny imagine Cruz
                  being elected. Cruz wants to eliminate the IRS congress says no so go it alone Cruz issues an executive order
                  to abolish it. Congress considers it impeachable, every Democrat votes in favor of impeachment Cruz has
                  very few Republican congressman who will even talk to him and even less that will back him. Cruz gets impeached
                  almost unanimously. Who is the VP in waiting? Fiorina, Haley, Glenn Beck & Rick perry they follow him to all his rallies
                  I can only described this bunch as 'A Cathedral of Losers."
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                  • ACoochy
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by 15805
                    Cruz has a much better chance of winning powerball lottery than the general elect. But the be funny imagine Cruz
                    being elected. Cruz wants to eliminate the IRS congress says no so go it alone Cruz issues an executive order
                    to abolish it. Congress considers it impeachable, every Democrat votes in favor of impeachment Cruz has
                    very few Republican congressman who will even talk to him and even less that will back him. Cruz gets impeached
                    almost unanimously. Who is the VP in waiting? Fiorina, Haley, Glenn Beck & Rick perry they follow him to all his rallies
                    I can only described this bunch as 'A Cathedral of Losers."
                    Just be thankful that the world has only so many crazies and that business as usual will occur once Shillary takes control
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                    • Otters27
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                      #45
                      Ted Cruz wants to bust unions bad. Will he pick Scott Walker as his running mate.
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                      • d2bets
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Otters27
                        Ted Cruz wants to bust unions bad. Will he pick Scott Walker as his running mate.
                        Walker was such a horrible candidate. I doubt it.
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                        • 15805
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                          #47
                          Dream Ticket Cruz/Fiorina wow. More than a little rough on the eyes, how would you enjoy these
                          two coming into your living room every night on the boob tube. Ratings would crater!
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by d2bets
                            It looks like June is only too late for a few states, but a lot of deadlines in July and it's a massive effort to organize and get the signatures. Not impossible, but damn close. Post-convention in July would be impossible.

                            https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_acces...ial_candidates
                            Trump should have went 3rd party right from the beginning! If it becomes apparent that he will fall short
                            of 1237 he should immediately take that route maybe in late May when he can get on all significant state
                            ballots. In a 3rd party run he will take contributions from supporters and the take would be huge. The only
                            reason he may not reach 1237 is that though he's financing his own campaign he's Scottish & I know how
                            tight the Scots can be, he hasn't put out the dough he easily could have to cement the nomination.

                            As a 3rd party candidate he'll easily be 34% solid & remember in May 1992 the polls read Bush 34%,
                            Perrot 35% & Clinto 24%. Donald Trump is a full bore cultural phenomenon Perrot was not.
                            I can see it now November 2016. Trump 35%, Clinton or Sanders 34%, Ryan, Kasich or Cruz 25% with
                            5% the libertarian Johnson. Trump will not let them take the nomination from him lying down!
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                            • DwightShrute
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                              #49
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                              • ACoochy
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                                #50
                                Drugshooter Drumpf nuthugger

                                What a loser
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                                • BigJay
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Otters27
                                  Ya that was for the to be president. My bet is for the repub nom
                                  No, it wasn't. After the Trump sweep on March 15 he was monstrous favorite to win Republican nomination at Heritage and both Cruz and Kasich were +4000 to win the Republican nomination.
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by 15805
                                    Trump should have went 3rd party right from the beginning! If it becomes apparent that he will fall short
                                    of 1237 he should immediately take that route maybe in late May when he can get on all significant state
                                    ballots. In a 3rd party run he will take contributions from supporters and the take would be huge. The only
                                    reason he may not reach 1237 is that though he's financing his own campaign he's Scottish & I know how
                                    tight the Scots can be, he hasn't put out the dough he easily could have to cement the nomination.

                                    As a 3rd party candidate he'll easily be 34% solid & remember in May 1992 the polls read Bush 34%,
                                    Perrot 35% & Clinto 24%. Donald Trump is a full bore cultural phenomenon Perrot was not.
                                    I can see it now November 2016. Trump 35%, Clinton or Sanders 34%, Ryan, Kasich or Cruz 25% with
                                    5% the libertarian Johnson. Trump will not let them take the nomination from him lying down!
                                    In that scenario, it could be that nobody gets 270 meaning it goes to Congress, which would elect the traditional Republican.
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                                    • Otters27
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by BigJay
                                      No, it wasn't. After the Trump sweep on March 15 he was monstrous favorite to win Republican nomination at Heritage and both Cruz and Kasich were +4000 to win the Republican nomination.
                                      Really wow. Crazy how thing have changed since
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                                      • Otters27
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                                        #54
                                        Cruz down to + 260 at 5 dimes
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                                        • The Kraken
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                                          #55
                                          Got Cruz at +2200

                                          Got Trump at +1000

                                          #WINNING

                                          And I would gladly trade both for Dwights +4000

                                          Solid work
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                                          • MoneyLineDawg
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                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                            Got Cruz at +2200

                                            Got Trump at +1000

                                            #WINNING

                                            And I would gladly trade both for Dwights +4000

                                            Solid work
                                            Sprinkle some on Paul Ryan

                                            He's the guy I can see ultimately being the pick
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                                            • 15805
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by d2bets
                                              In that scenario, it could be that nobody gets 270 meaning it goes to Congress, which would elect the traditional Republican.
                                              If the traditional republican candidate were to become the president because of
                                              congressional preference over a 3rd party & democratic nominee with less votes
                                              than either all hell would break loose. We would have a constitutional crises.
                                              Interesting scenario. All citizens should brace themselves.
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                                              • 15805
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by BigJay
                                                No, it wasn't. After the Trump sweep on March 15 he was monstrous favorite to win Republican nomination at Heritage and both Cruz and Kasich were +4000 to win the Republican nomination.
                                                That is nonsense! On March 27 I bet one of many the field against Trump as a hedge against huge bet on Trump in June;

                                                369430898-1 3/27/16 6:25pm $10.00 $25.00 Pending 7/18/16 8:00am Politics Other Sports 902 Field wins Republican Nomination +250* <small>vs</small> Donald Trump is Republican Nominee

                                                If the field was +4000 on both March 15th how could the entire field be at +250
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                                                • The Kraken
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by MoneyLineDawg
                                                  Sprinkle some on Paul Ryan

                                                  He's the guy I can see ultimately being the pick


                                                  MLD, if this happened, it would be pandemonium worse than if HRC won
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                                                  • BigJay
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by 15805
                                                    That is nonsense! On March 27 I bet one of many the field against Trump as a hedge against huge bet on Trump in June;

                                                    369430898-1 3/27/16 6:25pm $10.00 $25.00 Pending 7/18/16 8:00am Politics Other Sports 902 Field wins Republican Nomination +250* <small>vs</small> Donald Trump is Republican Nominee

                                                    If the field was +4000 on both March 15th how could the entire field be at +250
                                                    Because after that sweep on March 15 all media outlets were talking about trump's lead to the republican nomination being insurmountable. Since then Trump has managed to slowly start to implode (the things he said about women who get abortions being punished and showing he literally knows nothing about foreign policy with his Nukes comments about Japan and South Korea are even over the top for him and I think most republicans other than his supporters realize there's no way he could beat Hillary) and it's also becoming clear no one is going to get the magic number of deligates before the RNC. So everything is up in the air now. Before it wasn't. Things have changed swiftly in this republican race and before it's all said and done it could be a free for all at the RNC.
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                                                    • Art Vandelay
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by 15805
                                                      Dream Ticket Cruz/Fiorina wow. More than a little rough on the eyes, how would you enjoy these
                                                      two coming into your living room every night on the boob tube. Ratings would crater!
                                                      Compared to a "screeching Shedevil" Hillary... this would be an improvement!
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                                                      • Otters27
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                                                        #62
                                                        Cruz goes from -1000 to -500 in Wisconsin primary. ?????
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                                                        • DwightShrute
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by Otters27
                                                          Cruz goes from -1000 to -500 in Wisconsin primary. ?????
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                                                          • rkelly110
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                                                            #64
                                                            Trump says if he gets in he will surround himself with winners, yet he's got screech owl Palin, fat boy Christie
                                                            and other losers hanging around zipper sniffing him for a shot in his cabinet.

                                                            You wanna win Trump? Dump the losers!
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                              Trump says if he gets in he will surround himself with winners, yet he's got screech owl Palin, fat boy Christie
                                                              and other losers hanging around zipper sniffing him for a shot in his cabinet.

                                                              You wanna win Trump? Dump the losers!

                                                              Kelly, still praying for Trump too. But, it looks like he is going to find a way to fck it up. What a party I will have if that guy is the nominee.

                                                              Hey, anything can happen in the general and this election series has established that to be a fact. But, if numbers remain the same how in gods name can he win the general. First his unfavorable is sky high. Second, like her or hate her she like her husband will be prepared for the debates. DT is never prepared everything is off the top of his head. She will utterly destroy him and I realize that that fact will mean nothing to his supporters because they have proved that facts and words mean nothing. But, it will be important to the vast majority of viewers.

                                                              The great aspect of this paring could very well mean the house and maybe the Senate. If that happens the supreme court will take a very left turn and the R can say goodbye to gerrymandering and maybe even nearly unlimited political money. They will continue their 50 years or more losing streak on settled issues.
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                                                              • DwightShrute
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                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                Trump says if he gets in he will surround himself with winners, yet he's got screech owl Palin, fat boy Christie
                                                                and other losers hanging around zipper sniffing him for a shot in his cabinet.

                                                                You wanna win Trump? Dump the losers!
                                                                well, as soon as Trump gets in that means the biggest loser will have already left. That will a great day for America.
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                                                                • rkelly110
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by dante1
                                                                  Kelly, still praying for Trump too. But, it looks like he is going to find a way to fck it up. What a party I will have if that guy is the nominee.

                                                                  Hey, anything can happen in the general and this election series has established that to be a fact. But, if numbers remain the same how in gods name can he win the general. First his unfavorable is sky high. Second, like her or hate her she like her husband will be prepared for the debates. DT is never prepared everything is off the top of his head. She will utterly destroy him and I realize that that fact will mean nothing to his supporters because they have proved that facts and words mean nothing. But, it will be important to the vast majority of viewers.

                                                                  The great aspect of this paring could very well mean the house and maybe the Senate. If that happens the supreme court will take a very left turn and the R can say goodbye to gerrymandering and maybe even nearly unlimited political money. They will continue their 50 years or more losing streak on settled issues.
                                                                  I can't for the life of me see why people are voting for Cruz. The only reason I see is anti Trumpsters, but Kasich is
                                                                  still in it. Someone who actually has a successful record of governess.

                                                                  I guess politics is the opposite of money talks and bullshit walks. The longer I live, the more stupid people become.
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                                                    well, as soon as Trump gets in that means the biggest loser will have already left. That will a great day for America.
                                                                    That's already factored in. Your boy better get on the ball, people are seeing the bullshit on the wall. (poet on purpose)
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                                                                    • DwightShrute
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                      I can't for the life of me see why people are voting for Cruz. The only reason I see is anti Trumpsters, but Kasich is
                                                                      still in it.
                                                                      Someone who actually has a successful record of governess.

                                                                      I guess politics is the opposite of money talks and bullshit walks. The longer I live, the more stupid people become.
                                                                      Kasich is down 4 games to 0 in a best of 7 series and wants to keep playing! WTF? If Trump had no chance like Kasich, you all would all over him telling him that he should bow out immediately. Double standards? You betcha!

                                                                      he cannot win unless the GOP try and steal it away from Trump. There will be hell to pay if they try. I like Kasich but he should leave the race.
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                                                                      • 15805
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Trump will end up getting the minimum delegates needed to get the nomination on the first ballot.
                                                                        I gave him no delegates in Wisconsin, no delegates in Colorado, no delegates in North Dakota and
                                                                        I left out the 54 uncommitted delegates from Pennsylvania and Trump still comes up with 1, 243 delegates.
                                                                        I also have him losing in Nebraska and South Dakota. So, in reality I gave him a worse case scenario.
                                                                        Right now Trump has 754 delegates. By the morning of April 27th he will just be shy of 1,000 delegates.
                                                                        After that he will win Indiana because it is a rust belt state. He will win West Virginia. I also gave him
                                                                        an equal split with Washington and Oregon even though I think he'll win both. The last primaries of California,
                                                                        New Jersey and New Mexico will all go to Trump. My best guess is 1,254 delegates for Trump before the convention.
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