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53 on Seattle
4 on Minnesota
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rake922
SBR Posting Legend
12-23-07
11692
#41
russell wilson is an assassin. who is scarier to face than him?
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Time is Money
SBR MVP
12-03-07
2255
#42
Originally posted by rake922
russell wilson is an assassin. who is scarier to face than him?
He will never touch Brady, look at Bradys intensity and body language next week. Dude is a warrior
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popovitsch
SBR High Roller
09-13-15
105
#43
Who are those experts? Just announcers from ESPN?
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BuckyOne
SBR MVP
01-02-15
2728
#44
Where do we put the line - if you are determining the scientific line with your own skills and data available? How many points do you factor in for the home team? Do, we play value here - if any - or are there other factors the linesmakers are oblivious to. Let's assume the linesmakers tried hard to split the action with the number they chose?
What makes no sense is that if 95% of the bets/volume are coming in on Seattle - why has the line stayed flat - barely moved? Do the bookies want one sided action on Seattle and they want to gamble on the Vikes - or is there money coming in on the Vikes and if so - from what source (pros-experts-every junket plane from Minnesota).
Just for the sake of conversation. Guess who the # 1 rated team in the NFL is according to Jeff Sagarin's computer ranking. I know we could argue all day as to the scientific accuracy of this ranking but I think it is very interesting that :
SEATTLE with their 10-6 record is rated #1 in the entire NFL.
That being said The vikes are # 10 and Sagarin would put the line at 3 after applying 2 points for the home field advantage.
So, is there a possibility the bookies think they are getting 2 points of value on all these Seattle bets???
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packerd_00
SBR Posting Legend
05-22-13
17811
#45
People never learn,these so called experts always pick the favourite,how often do we see them go with the under dog. They need another guy like Jimmy The Greek.
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slacker00
SBR Posting Legend
10-06-05
12262
#46
Originally posted by popovitsch
Who are those experts? Just announcers from ESPN?
Random sports writers, guys who generally just pick the favorite. This site also lists ATS which is closer to 50-50.
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Jowframs
SBR Hall of Famer
08-10-09
5128
#47
5pt Spreads haven't done well this Year
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wilburz
SBR Rookie
12-08-14
16
#48
Ill take AP + points anyday of the week
Vikings ML. Heard it here folks
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BigdaddyQH
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-09
19530
#49
Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
I pick Vikings and so confident I put 50k on it
that should shut everyone up
right jj???
Bull S**T. Time to shut you up.
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Grits n' Gravy
Restricted User
06-10-10
13024
#50
Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
Bull S**T. Time to shut you up.
he was joking but you are too much of a moron to understand subtle humor. eat a dick you cumguzzler.
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BigdaddyQH
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-09
19530
#51
Originally posted by BuckyOne
Where do we put the line - if you are determining the scientific line with your own skills and data available? How many points do you factor in for the home team? Do, we play value here - if any - or are there other factors the linesmakers are oblivious to. Let's assume the linesmakers tried hard to split the action with the number they chose?
What makes no sense is that if 95% of the bets/volume are coming in on Seattle - why has the line stayed flat - barely moved? Do the bookies want one sided action on Seattle and they want to gamble on the Vikes - or is there money coming in on the Vikes and if so - from what source (pros-experts-every junket plane from Minnesota).
Just for the sake of conversation. Guess who the # 1 rated team in the NFL is according to Jeff Sagarin's computer ranking. I know we could argue all day as to the scientific accuracy of this ranking but I think it is very interesting that :
SEATTLE with their 10-6 record is rated #1 in the entire NFL.
That being said The vikes are # 10 and Sagarin would put the line at 3 after applying 2 points for the home field advantage.
So, is there a possibility the bookies think they are getting 2 points of value on all these Seattle bets???
How many times do I have to explain this to you people who have no idea about how lines work. Pay attention losers. It is NOT the number of people who wager on a certain team that determines the line. It is the amount of money. The linemaker have forgotten more about wagering than any of you will ever know. As far as Sagarin is concerned, he is a pathetic loser. NO one gives a crap about what he says. You can never find out exactly how much is going down on which team because off shore bookmakers lie about this regularly, and all bookmakers could care less what you think or want to know. You guys are so gullible. You probably are in the market for beach front property in Kansas.
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vividjohn45
SBR Hall of Famer
11-21-10
6331
#52
Originally posted by jjgold
I know guys betting big on Money Line in Vegas meaning Seattle
It looks really easy
mismatch on paper
Pros dont bet moneylines jj. Except in parlays
A pro who lays heavy juice becomes a quick amatuer.
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vividjohn45
SBR Hall of Famer
11-21-10
6331
#53
Now i would understand like a seahawks ml. And nhl chicago Blackhawks tonite ml 2 teamer. . that works. Then a bit on a two teamer ats for those same teams. Thats -105. For that ml 2 teamer.
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vividjohn45
SBR Hall of Famer
11-21-10
6331
#54
A hawks two teamer ats -5 and -1.5 pays 3:1. Blackhawks have beat buff 9 of last10 in hed to hed. Buff has lost 5 in a row. Bl. Hawks won 5 in a row. Chicago 8-2 l10 at home. If u like the seahawks proly tonite Blackhawks compliment them well. Just sayin.
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Grits n' Gravy
Restricted User
06-10-10
13024
#55
Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
How many times do I have to explain this to you people who have no idea about how lines work. Pay attention losers. It is NOT the number of people who wager on a certain team that determines the line. It is the amount of money. The linemaker have forgotten more about wagering than any of you will ever know. As far as Sagarin is concerned, he is a pathetic loser. NO one gives a crap about what he says. You can never find out exactly how much is going down on which team because off shore bookmakers lie about this regularly, and all bookmakers could care less what you think or want to know. You guys are so gullible. You probably are in the market for beach front property in Kansas.
Wow! You came up with that all on your own? Next you will tell us that water is wet. You have officially passed jj and tt as most worthless poster at sbr. Congrats!
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BuckyOne
SBR MVP
01-02-15
2728
#56
Originally posted by BigdaddyQH
How many times do I have to explain this to you people who have no idea about how lines work. Pay attention losers. It is NOT the number of people who wager on a certain team that determines the line. It is the amount of money. The linemaker have forgotten more about wagering than any of you will ever know. As far as Sagarin is concerned, he is a pathetic loser. NO one gives a crap about what he says. You can never find out exactly how much is going down on which team because off shore bookmakers lie about this regularly, and all bookmakers could care less what you think or want to know. You guys are so gullible. You probably are in the market for beach front property in Kansas.
Do you know what volume is?
What makes no sense is that if 95% of the bets/volume are coming in on Seattle
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daneblazer
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
09-14-08
27861
#57
Vikings had 4 pro football focus all pros. 3 missed the Seahawk game
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SEAHAWKHARRY
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11-29-07
26068
#58
So would those three players =30+ points I don't think so
Everyone wants to see SEAHAWKS lose
Understandable the SEAHAWKS have been so dominate
So aggressive
And just when everyone counted them out 2-5.
Boom they start coming back
Now they have been on a terror both offensively and defensively
So if everyone thinks SEAHAWKS will lose on Sunday hope your there to say you were wrong
And if they lose I will be here to eat crow did last Super Bowl
But I think SEAHAWKS roll again Sunday
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daneblazer
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09-14-08
27861
#59
I don't think anyone is disrespecting the Seahawks. They're two time defending champs for a reason. I do think the Vikings are being under rated. Are those three players worth 30 points? They're awfully good... But other things led to that blowout. During that game Teddy threw a bad int before half and there was a questionable call or two...game over before half. Could that happen again? Possibly, but I do think this game will be competitive this time around.
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JayDr3am
SBR Posting Legend
05-06-14
18260
#60
Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
So would those three players =30+ points I don't think so
Everyone wants to see SEAHAWKS lose
Understandable the SEAHAWKS have been so dominate
So aggressive
And just when everyone counted them out 2-5.
Boom they start coming back
Now they have been on a terror both offensively and defensively
So if everyone thinks SEAHAWKS will lose on Sunday hope your there to say you were wrong
And if they lose I will be here to eat crow did last Super Bowl
But I think SEAHAWKS roll again Sunday
I dont wanna see them lose, I actually wouldn't mind if they won this game.. should no more 6 pts
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DrunkHorseplayer
SBR Hall of Famer
05-15-10
7719
#61
Originally posted by JayDr3am
i cant believe all experts are with the public too.. if anything I thought the experts would know better than this..
These so-called experts are members of the public.
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Otters27
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
07-14-07
30760
#62
RJ Bell (pregame.com) is on the Vikings. He said in on the Erik Kuselias show today.
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BuckyOne
SBR MVP
01-02-15
2728
#63
Originally posted by DrunkHorseplayer
These so-called experts are members of the public.
There is a difference between experts and pros. If the pros,experts, and public are all on the same side - then the line got set too low and books could get clobbered? Anybody, see this line cracking and moving up or down?
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SEAHAWKHARRY
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
11-29-07
26068
#64
Originally posted by Otters27
RJ Bell (pregame.com) is on the Vikings. He said in on the Erik Kuselias show today.
RJ BELL isn't a great tout
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Bluehorseshoe
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-06
15003
#65
Marshawn Lynch is officially out for Sunday.
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SEAHAWKHARRY
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
11-29-07
26068
#66
Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
Marshawn Lynch is officially out for Sunday.
Um no
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Bluehorseshoe
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-06
15003
#67
Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
Um no
Um yes.
Watch the line move.
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Bluehorseshoe
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-06
15003
#68
Marshawn Lynch a no-go for Seahawks, source says
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Marshawn Lynch is a no-go for the Seattle Seahawks this weekend.
A source told ESPN's John Clayton that the running back will be downgraded to out after Lynch felt he could not go against the Minnesota Vikings following Friday's workout.
Lynch did not travel with the team Friday night when it departed for Sunday's wild-card game at the Vikings.
Lynch, who has not played since Week 10 against Arizona, is recovering from abdomen surgery that took place on Nov. 25.
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JayDr3am
SBR Posting Legend
05-06-14
18260
#69
Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe
Um yes.
Watch the line move.
yeah hes out but hes been out.. the line wont move worth a shit. and it if it does itll be a smudge ..
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Bluehorseshoe
SBR Posting Legend
07-13-06
15003
#70
Originally posted by JayDr3am
yeah hes out but hes been out.. the line wont move worth a shit. and it if it does itll be a smudge ..
I would take the Vikes down to 3. Do you know what the weather is going to be like??