Fading Cam and Carolina in the right spot during the playoffs is going to be glorious

**BigdaddyQH** · 12-21-15, 11:50 AM

I see that all of the know-nothings are out in force. You wanna-be gamblers have no idea what the lines will be. You do not even know who will be playing who just yet. Here is a little hint for you wanna-be gamblers. If Philly wins out they win the NFC EAST AT 8-8. Go figure that one. Since over 90% of you are air bettors or simply do not wager at all, just sit tight and keep your mouths shut until you know who is playing who, who is injured, and who is returning from injury. Then you can run your mouths and make fools out of yourselves. Why you guys love to make fools out of yourselves is beyond me. I guess you will do anything to get some attention.

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 12:28 PM

The only teams with a shot of beating Carolina are either Arizona or New England so not sure why fading them would be so glorious.

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 12:32 PM

Coiner made this thread to be a contrarian. No reason for that silliness. The Panthers are legit. Why fight it?

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

You have been a moron since birth. I don't need to visit your threads where you make a pick and then jump in another thread to pick other side. Merry Christmas.

Link?

That's what I thought. Now you're just making shit up. But keep making yourself sound completely ignorant.

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Coiner made this thread to be a contrarian. No reason for that silliness. The Panthers are legit. Why fight it?

I never said they weren't legit. But they're not winning the Super Bowl.

**Vegas39** · 12-21-15, 02:19 PM

only a matter of time til no coin feels need for attention and will claim he is quitting once again.

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**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 02:27 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

I never said they weren't legit. But they're not winning the Super Bowl.

Only one team wins the Super Bowl. What's that got to do with fading them in the playoffs?

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Only one team wins the Super Bowl. What's that got to do with fading them in the playoffs?

Again, I can easily fade them ATS without necessarily betting the other team on the ML. Carolina's lines will be inflated during the playoffs, especially if they finish 16-0 (as they should).

**brooks85** · 12-21-15, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

The only teams with a shot of beating Carolina are either Arizona or New England so not sure why fading them would be so glorious.

their QB

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

only a matter of time til no coin feels need for attention and will claim he is quitting once again.

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Have three in-season threads going right now (NFL, NBA, CBB). Feel free to visit and fade away.

**newguy** · 12-21-15, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Again, I can easily fade them ATS without necessarily betting the other team on the ML. Carolina's lines will be inflated during the playoffs, especially if they finish 16-0 (as they should).

I really think they lose next week.

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 02:37 PM

Do you not like Carolina or something? I don't get it. What's so glorious about them losing?

And what makes you think their line would be inflated? If they were to play Seattle in the divisional round, what would that line be?

**TheMoneyShot** · 12-21-15, 02:42 PM

Carolina will drop a deuce in the playoffs.

You guys forgot about all the times this Cam Newton clown cried every time he loss... or was losing. His expressions. etc.

Remember the times people questioned his toughness?

It will all come back in the playoffs. He's just a good entertainer. Nothing more.

**OTL** · 12-21-15, 02:54 PM

I'd rather fade Cincinnati and that loser Dalton. That one is as good as money in the bank.

**jtoler** · 12-21-15, 03:16 PM

Cam oh Cam.

**survive** · 12-21-15, 03:29 PM

Cardinals lost Matthieu for the year. Devastating injury, not sure if I like them to win the NFC anymore

**PREMOSIX** · 12-21-15, 03:30 PM

I cant wait til Cam tells all his haters to smd and dabs his way to a ring..man ive never seen a team 14-0 get so much hate n people dying for them to lose

**KRIT** · 12-21-15, 05:27 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Do you not like Carolina or something? I don't get it. What's so glorious about them losing?

And what makes you think their line would be inflated? If they were to play Seattle in the divisional round, what would that line be?

Assuming both teams go into the games without new injuries, I'd guess Carolina -3.5/-4.

Originally posted by survive

Cardinals lost Matthieu for the year. Devastating injury, not sure if I like them to win the NFC anymore

I don't think Arizona can come out of the NFC now without him. I think PFF had him rated as the best DB this year. He is probably the last guy Zona could afford to lose on defense.

**RavensFan2k3** · 12-21-15, 05:31 PM

So many games to wager to earn money on but we wanna look forward to the guessing game of guessing when an undefeated team will see their first loss. Im convinced people here don't bet to win money, just for bragging rights that they were on the right side of some improbable underdog. I actually hope Carolina wins the damn Super Bowl or atleast makes it

**jtoler** · 12-21-15, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Point being? I'm backing Rodgers in this spot 10 times out of 10. Carolina was lucky there weren't a few more minutes left in this game. Rodgers is a winner. Newton is not.

Originally posted by jtoler

Undefeated in JC and Division I-A, and this year.

Starting to think you have a hard on for Cam bro. Dont bet against him right now, he's hot and entering his prime. Trust me I've been there before where I just thought a team or player wasnt really anything special and faded them and they continued to bury me, ride this wave of betting utopia with the Cats right now and cash those tickets at the window.

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 05:48 PM

Originally posted by jtoler

Starting to think you have a hard on for Cam bro. Dont bet against him right now, he's hot and in his prime. Trust me I've been there before where I just thought a team or player wasnt really anything special and faded them and they continued to bury me, ride this wave of betting utopia with the Cats right now and cash those tickets at the window.

Bingo. No coin just doesn't like Cam. How he could call Aaron Rodgers a winner and Cam not is beyond comprehension.

**Eddy Munny** · 12-21-15, 05:55 PM

I think the only defense in the NFL that can shut down Cam is the Broncos and they wouldn't meet until the SB.

**survive** · 12-21-15, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

I don't think Arizona can come out of the NFC now without him. I think PFF had him rated as the best DB this year. He is probably the last guy Zona could afford to lose on defense.

Not only is he the highest rated, he's rated nearly twice as much as #2 Josh Norman which is insane. Brutal luck for him and Arizona

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Bingo. No coin just doesn't like Cam. How he could call Aaron Rodgers a winner and Cam not is beyond comprehension.

Because Rodgers has won something and Cam hasn't?

It's not that complicated.

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by RavensFan2k3

So many games to wager to earn money on but we wanna look forward to the guessing game of guessing when an undefeated team will see their first loss. Im convinced people here don't bet to win money, just for bragging rights that they were on the right side of some improbable underdog. I actually hope Carolina wins the damn Super Bowl or atleast makes it

Yeah, that's exactly right. After all, you follow my daily threads. That's what I do: bet for the glory, and wind up losing my shirt. Astute observation.

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Because Rodgers has won something and Cam hasn't?

It's not that complicated.

Cam won a national championship. He's only been in the nfl for 5 seasons and the first two years Carolina was trash.

I always say Rodgers is the best quarterback not named Tom Brady but he's had some postseason failures. That's not all on him but he hasn't always played his best football in January.

One could argue Rodgers has more to prove than Newton.

Lose the snark coiner. You have a thing against Cam. It's fairly obvious.

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Cam won a national championship. He's only been in the nfl for 5 seasons and the first two years Carolina was trash.

I always say Rodgers is the best quarterback not named Tom Brady but he's had some postseason failures. That's not all on him but he hasn't always played his best football in January.

One could argue Rodgers has more to prove than Newton.

Lose the snark coiner. You have a thing against Cam. It's fairly obvious.

He's overrated until he proves otherwise in the playoffs. I'm not hiding anything about that. They were incomprehensibly bad last season, and got torched by the Niners two years ago on their home field.

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 07:10 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

He's overrated until he proves otherwise in the playoffs. I'm not hiding anything about that. They were incomprehensibly bad last season, and got torched by the Niners two years ago on their home field.

Overrated? What does that even mean? Nobody has ever mentioned him among the top quarterbacks in the league until this year. He's the front runner for MVP and rightfully so. He's been incredible. In complete control of the game.

They made the divisional round last year and as for two years ago, they were playing the 2nd best team in football when they lost to the 49ers. You forget that San Fran lost in the Super Bowl the year before and played in an all time great game when they lost to Seattle?

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 07:11 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Overrated? What does that even mean? Nobody has ever mentioned him among the top quarterbacks in the league until this year. He's the front runner for MVP and rightfully so. He's been incredible. In complete control of the game.

Are you kidding me?

They made the divisional round last year

With an inexplicable 7-8-1 record.

and as for two years ago, they were playing the 2nd best team in football when they lost to the 49ers. You forget that San Fran lost in the Super Bowl the year before and played in an all time great game when they lost to Seattle?

Do me a favor: tell me what Carolina was seeded in '13 compared to the "second best team in football."

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 07:24 PM

Originally posted by No coincidences

Are you kidding me?

With an inexplicable 7-8-1 record.

Do me a favor: tell me what Carolina was seeded in '13 compared to the "second best team in football."

No I'm not kidding you. Stop making crap up.

Inexplicable record? Who gives a fukk? They had injuries and got hot late so who cares?

I don't care about the 2013 seeding. The 49ers were seeded 5th with a 12-4 record. Seeding means shit. You seriously going to try and deny that San Fran was the second best team in the league? Really??

**No coincidences** · 12-21-15, 07:29 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

No I'm not kidding you. Stop making crap up.

Inexplicable record? Who gives a fukk? They had injuries and got hot late so who cares?

I don't care about the 2013 seeding. The 49ers were seeded 5th with a 12-4 record. Seeding means shit. You seriously going to try and deny that San Fran was the second best team in the league? Really??

You are honestly going to say that Cam had never been mentioned among the top QB's in the league until this year? WTF?

Carolina was every bit as good as SF in '13. Maybe better. They completely laid an egg at home vs. Kaepernick and the Niners.

**t-wizzle** · 12-21-15, 07:39 PM

NFL.com had him ranked 11th coming into this year.

Sports Illustrated had him 16th.

I could go on and on and on. Until recently, you would never hear Cam Newton included in the upper echelon.

I don't mind discussing this with you but you can't just go on with your straw man arguments and expect to have a legitimate discussion.

**70CoupeDeVille** · 12-21-15, 08:12 PM

Underrated QBs

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**ZIPPER HEAD** · 12-21-15, 08:14 PM

Originally posted by BigDofBA

Aren't they 10-4 ATS this year?

Why not back good teams like Carolina and Golden State while they're winning instead of "waiting for a perfect spot to fade them." It seems like you would make more money that way. Most people lose a lot trying to guess when a good team won't cover.

Some years there are those teams that seem to cover most of the time. Examples in MLB the last two seasons included Oakland and St. Louis. They flamed out in the playoffs but you could have made a shit ton backing them in the regular season. Why not ride the gravy train until it runs out?

this finally some one with a brain chimes in

**GT21Megatron** · 12-21-15, 08:20 PM

I can name 10 QBs in the league right now I would take over Cam.....Good year YES.....good QB no....It must be nice playing 5 of 6 games in the division against QBs not in the top 23 in total QBR....How many teams have the panthers beat that have a winning record as of today? I'll answer it for you.....fuking 2....Not only are they in a bad division they lucked out and played maybe the two other worst divisions in football in the AFC SOUTH AND NFC EAST.....You want to crown the Panthers go right ahead and I don't always agree with NOcoin....but he's right on here....Panthers have had a cake walk and Im not buying the shit either....15-0 is impressive don't get me wrong but 2 wins over teams with a winning record?.....lets not shoot our load just yet....Let Seattle get in and come to Carolina?...Carolina won't make it out the second round....Book it....