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  • grease lightnin
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-01-12
    • 16015

    #526
    Ok coochie, are you saying that Holm was definitely juicing and Rousey definitely was not?
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    • BELM0NT
      SBR MVP
      • 05-19-15
      • 1132

      #527
      To me it just seems like people are trying to come up with bs reasons why ronda lost. So they immediately wanna say hh is cheating. Its not fair to hh. Put yourself in her shoes
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      • ACoochy
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 08-19-09
        • 13949

        #528
        Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
        look at felice herrig's abs and holly holm's abs. no one will accuse felice of juicing. she's shredded but not to a body builder's level.

        it's hard to get abs like that unless you're genetically gifted and looking at holly's younger pictures, she's not that genetically gifted.

        but like i said, does it really matter? they need to make peds legal since most people are on something.
        Couldnt agree more with that past.

        At that level theres a strong mentality that if your not on something to gain the advantage then your not doing it right.

        Other thing also is that her bone density must be astonishing for a 34yo to be able to hit so hard without breaking anything in a body thats begun to deteriorate with age.

        Yeah theres years of conditioning and correct technique behind that but id have thought that as a ex boxer and kickboxer she'd have broken every bone in her hands several times over by now.

        Must stop being such a cynic and take things on face value lol
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        • ACoochy
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-19-09
          • 13949

          #529
          Originally posted by grease lightnin
          Ok coochie, are you saying that Holm was definitely juicing and Rousey definitely was not?
          Im just saying look at how huge and ripped she was during the fight and compare that someone like Overeem when he was on the juice...

          I hope she wasnt juicing for the sake of the sport but my bias must be too strong here lighter man :-)
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          • Mac4Lyfe
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-04-09
            • 48384

            #530
            The media built Rousey up to be some unbeatable behemoth that it is just natural to think something's fishy.

            Originally posted by ACoochy

            Must stop being such a cynic and take things on face value lol
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            • ACoochy
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-19-09
              • 13949

              #531
              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
              The media built Rousey up to be some unbeatable behemoth that it is just natural to think something's fishy.
              Whats fishy is the hugeness of those muscles lifer...

              Wish it wasnt but you know from past experience when something looks out of place, you just do...

              Maybe im just so used to seeing sports stars fcome undone due to peds and steroids that i kinda just expect this to eventually be the same...
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              • Mac4Lyfe
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 01-04-09
                • 48384

                #532
                TV has a way of making people look larger than they really are. She's not that big in real life.

                Originally posted by ACoochy
                Whats fishy is the hugeness of those muscles lifer...

                Wish it wasnt but you know from past experience when something looks out of place, you just do...

                Maybe im just so used to seeing sports stars fcome undone due to peds and steroids that i kinda just expect this to eventually be the same...
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                • ACoochy
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 08-19-09
                  • 13949

                  #533
                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                  TV has a way of making people look larger than they really are. She's not that big in real life.
                  Lifer the width of that upper back and shoulders could carry 2 sherpas up Everest and hold the fold in design of the back cover of a Mad magazine...

                  Lifer i like that you see the best in people and not let life turn you into a cynic.

                  Lifer keep uo the good work...
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                  • Mac4Lyfe
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-04-09
                    • 48384

                    #534


                    Originally posted by ACoochy
                    Lifer the width of that upper back and shoulders could carry 2 sherpas up Everest and hold the fold in design of the back cover of a Mad magazine...k...
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                    • grease lightnin
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-01-12
                      • 16015

                      #535
                      I would say the odds are both if them are on PEDs
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                      • Mac4Lyfe
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-04-09
                        • 48384

                        #536
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                        • KalouKalou
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-14-11
                          • 1848

                          #537
                          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                          Please stop the bullshit about HH being on roids. She's been working out the last 20 years, teaching kickboxing classes multiple times a week. You do that for over a decade and see how in shape you will get. I have several female friends that also are trainers and a couple became fighters and yes, woman can get that cut without juicing.

                          I use to live next door to this guy... http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/mike_ryan_interview.htm

                          He has never, ever juiced and is huge. His ex girlfriend was unbelievably cut. Much more than HH, and it was all natural. It was all hard work.

                          I hate when people try to discount other people's hard work.
                          lol you made me laugh. Come on open your eye.
                          Even on juice it's an amazing win for HH.
                          She was unbelievable outhere.
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                          • UncleChael
                            SBR MVP
                            • 10-30-13
                            • 3979

                            #538
                            Originally posted by UncleChael
                            What a loser!
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                            • El Nino
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-03-12
                              • 18426

                              #539
                              Originally posted by BELM0NT
                              To me it just seems like people are trying to come up with bs reasons why ronda lost. So they immediately wanna say hh is cheating. Its not fair to hh. Put yourself in her shoes
                              Not trying to discredit Holm. I never saw her fight before, just knew her boxing pedigree. I was happy to see Rousey drink humble pie through a straw. Just saying, in the pics and slo mo replays, her fukkin' traps are yoked. She's white and 34 years old. She's on the other side of her physical prime and she's jacked. Physiologically it doesn't look natural.
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                              • BrickJames
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-05-11
                                • 9749

                                #540
                                OP check in.
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                                • BELM0NT
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-19-15
                                  • 1132

                                  #541
                                  Originally posted by El Nino
                                  Physiologically it doesn't look natural.
                                  Too many people alive in this generation are too concerned with what someone should or shouldn't look like. To me, hh looks like a person that's put in hard work and dedication.
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 103415

                                    #542
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                                    • DwightShrute
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-17-09
                                      • 103415

                                      #543
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                                      • mirinquads
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 04-22-13
                                        • 3927

                                        #544
                                        Originally posted by ACoochy
                                        Couldnt agree more with that past.

                                        At that level theres a strong mentality that if your not on something to gain the advantage then your not doing it right.

                                        Other thing also is that her bone density must be astonishing for a 34yo to be able to hit so hard without breaking anything in a body thats begun to deteriorate with age.

                                        Yeah theres years of conditioning and correct technique behind that but id have thought that as a ex boxer and kickboxer she'd have broken every bone in her hands several times over by now.

                                        Must stop being such a cynic and take things on face value lol

                                        "A fighter, a real strong fighter should always look dignified and calm and I believe that any expression of aggression is an expression of weakness. A strong person will not be nervous and will not express aggression towards his opponent. He will be confident in his abilities and his training, then he will face the fight calm and balanced." - Fedor Emelianenko

                                        "You can jump around, beating your chest and praising yourself, but everything can be taken away at any moment. I believe that people who behave like that, are deceiving themselves...
                                        I don't make any predictions, it's fighting, it's life, and the fight can go either way." -Fedor Emelianenko

                                        Couple of very relevant quote from the GOAT to my post earlier. Very obvious to me that Ronda was nervous and knew she wasn't properly prepared.

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                                        • Dollars2Donuts
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-07-13
                                          • 8803

                                          #545
                                          Originally posted by El Nino
                                          Holm is 34 years old...no way that's a natural body. I wouldn't be shocked if she gets popped for vitamin T at the minimum some point in her career.
                                          I am not sure why you think that isn't achievable at 34 years old.

                                          That's what JJ's body looks like under his clothes.....and he is 64 years old.
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                                          • FlipsideRM
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 09-28-11
                                            • 10518

                                            #546
                                            Is OP okay? Hasn't checked in
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                                            • teaserpleaser
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 08-14-08
                                              • 26015

                                              #547
                                              Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
                                              I am not sure why you think that isn't achievable at 34 years old.

                                              That's what JJ's body looks like under his clothes.....and he is 64 years old.
                                              34 isn't 34 anymore I'm 35 feel 25 that age thing is outdated but holm clearly has used peds in the past other than ben askren ,diaz bros and a few others who hasn't in mma it's a very dirty sport that's no secret it's hard to become a ufc champ without them in this present day when everybody is taking them in camp to heal and recover.
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                                              • Wrigley
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 12-28-07
                                                • 7268

                                                #548
                                                Video from TMZ of her landing at LA airport with pillow over her face

                                                Ronda Rousey returns home after her loss to Holly Holm at UFC 193, and her arrival is painful to watch.
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                                                • BrickJames
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 05-05-11
                                                  • 9749

                                                  #549
                                                  Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                  Is OP okay? Hasn't checked in
                                                  Guy owes me 500 points. Laying low
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                                                  • VinagreSantos
                                                    SBR Rookie
                                                    • 07-04-15
                                                    • 37

                                                    #550
                                                    She could be hidding an injuried jaw or a broken nose. There´s some evidence that UFC are making some efforts to hidden Ronda´s KO (which is impossible!) and her injuries.
                                                    Some comments made by Winklejohn rise some suspicions that they didn´t show everything of Holly´s skills in their past UFC´s fights.
                                                    I kind of think that this rush of making Holly fighting Ronda with just 2 fights, were Dana´s trying to protect Ronda from Holly´s development. Guess it was not suficient...
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                                                    • KVB
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 05-29-14
                                                      • 74817

                                                      #551
                                                      I read she's on medical suspension and can't fight until she "passes" a CT scan.

                                                      CT scans aren't pass/fail, there diagnostic. She got knocked the fugout and now she's injured.
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                                                      • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 11-30-08
                                                        • 81450

                                                        #552
                                                        Originally posted by KVB
                                                        I read she's on medical suspension and can't fight until she "passes" a CT scan.

                                                        CT scans aren't pass/fail, there diagnostic. She got knocked the fugout and now she's injured.
                                                        I read the same thing. And that she will probably need plastic surgery on her lip.
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                                                        • BrickJames
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 05-05-11
                                                          • 9749

                                                          #553
                                                          Op check in
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                                                          • Vegas39
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 09-22-11
                                                            • 30686

                                                            #554
                                                            Originally posted by BrickJames
                                                            Op check in
                                                            he logged in a few days after fight, guessing created new name watch for 50K air bets
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                                                            • BrickJames
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 05-05-11
                                                              • 9749

                                                              #555
                                                              Originally posted by Vegas39
                                                              he logged in a few days after fight, guessing created new name watch for 50K air bets
                                                              He has been collecting his points everday. What kind of degen stiffs a guy on a points bet?
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                                                              • Jeffie
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 04-06-12
                                                                • 3428

                                                                #556
                                                                Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                                Is OP okay? Hasn't checked in
                                                                Think about how much 50k is worth in Air dollars.
                                                                Dude probably stopped breathing and died...
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                                                                • THam12
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 03-12-13
                                                                  • 12640

                                                                  #557
                                                                  She lost.
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                                                                  • El Nino
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-03-12
                                                                    • 18426

                                                                    #558
                                                                    Originally posted by Dollars2Donuts
                                                                    I am not sure why you think that isn't achievable at 34 years old.

                                                                    That's what JJ's body looks like under his clothes.....and he is 64 years old.
                                                                    jj is on d-bol and lots of poppers.
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                                                                    • relamancer2
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 12-02-10
                                                                      • 117

                                                                      #559
                                                                      Hollys been training/fighting since she was 16 and this was her most intense camp. Think about fighting the "best ever", wouldmt you want to come in, in the best shape of your life.

                                                                      I dont think shes cheating but then again, nothing surprises me these days with athletes.
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                                                                      • ACoochy
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 08-19-09
                                                                        • 13949

                                                                        #560
                                                                        Originally posted by Jeffie
                                                                        Think about how much 50k is worth in Air dollars.
                                                                        Dude probably stopped breathing and died...
                                                                        I think he started posting earlier today under another handle...
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