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  • FlipsideRM
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 09-28-11
    • 10518

    #1
    MSU-Michigan, let's talk
    I really like Michigan state +8. I think that's destrespecffuk for a 6-0 team getting over a TD in an instate rivalry game. This is the biggest game of the season for these teams. I'm sure Michigan will be rocking but I expect a low scoring, brutal sloppy game. Yes Michigan has 3 straight shutouts to some very one dimensional/trashy teams but I don't see a 4th vs MSU. +8 is a lot of points to give in a game that means everything to the #7 ranked team with a "veteran" college QB in Connor cook.

    thoughts? I haven't played it yet but thinking about it
  • BIGDAY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 02-17-10
    • 48245

    #2
    Leaning under.
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    • FlipsideRM
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 09-28-11
      • 10518

      #3
      Originally posted by BIGDAY
      Leaning under.
      I like it. Let's talk about the side as well...no input?
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      • Ted Sheckler
        SBR MVP
        • 01-08-14
        • 1936

        #4
        7.5 tease -135

        Cinci +14.5 tonight
        MSU +14.5 Saturday.
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        • ACCBball
          SBR Sharp
          • 02-26-08
          • 264

          #5
          MSU is really banged up. One of the best OL in country is decimated. Secondary looks bad. Cooks knee is not right. Harbaugh will show no mercy after the past 5 years of beatings. Like U of M here for those reasons.
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          • BIGDAY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 02-17-10
            • 48245

            #6
            Originally posted by Ted Sheckler
            7.5 tease -135

            Cinci +14.5 tonight
            MSU +14.5 Saturday.
            I like Cincy tonight as well.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Mich St looks solid with all those points

              Cincy????
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              • DOM_Toretto
                Restricted User
                • 01-28-13
                • 9035

                #8
                I'm on MSU ATS & ML
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                • PorkChop
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 09-18-08
                  • 8193

                  #9
                  Michigan State +7.5 is my play of the weekend. BOL
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                  • FlipsideRM
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 09-28-11
                    • 10518

                    #10
                    Originally posted by PorkChop
                    Michigan State +7.5 is my play of the weekend. BOL
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                    • KnownUnknown
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 07-20-14
                      • 150

                      #11

                      <!-- / user info -->
                      <!-- message, attachments, sig --> <!-- message --> Here is a local perspective (MI resident) of this game and the bad number that was placed on the game and now I'll say in more detail why I think it is such a bad number.

                      A. The number is wacky to begin with- here is how I see the game unfolding. It will be a very hard-fought game. That usually means the score will be close or one team will win by a significant number of points (10 or more). In a close game you win betting Michigan State and taking the points.

                      B. A lopsided outcome would happen because of mistakes made by one side or the other (fumbles/interceptions/total offensive ineffectiveness). If this event takes place- Michigan State will likely be the beneficiary because they have better offensive personnel than Michigan (imo). None of Michigan's receivers scare me in the least and neither does their run game and especially their QB. Defense can only take a team so far against another good team- you still have to generate points and especially against a large spread.

                      C. Don't underestimate the emotional component of this game- in this case, once again I'll side with Michigan State for this particular match-up. Whether anyone is in agreement with my projection (and opinions) here or not- BOL to all it should be a great game.
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                      • Itsamazing777
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-14-12
                        • 12602

                        #12
                        Michigan states defense is not that good at all anymore

                        Only reason they are ranked this high is because they started at 4 preseason and haven't lost yet. Even horrible teams are scoring in the 20s on them
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                        • no1here
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 03-23-09
                          • 5914

                          #13
                          spent two days with each team players last summer leaving knowing State would beat Michigan and have not change my mind. Use the plus points to protect your bet to win outright.
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                          • cankid
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 08-22-08
                            • 7219

                            #14
                            Mich ST covers late
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                            • smitch124
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 05-19-08
                              • 12566

                              #15
                              I can't figure out what the hell's gonna happen in this game. Anything could happen, If I'm gonna bet something I want it to be something with a good payout. MSU ML.
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                              • TheMoneyShot
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                                • 02-14-07
                                • 28672

                                #16
                                Harbaugh knows to have any hope of trying to be #1 or #2 in the nation he has to run up the score somehow. This would be the game against a ranked opponent.

                                History shows majority of MSU and UofM games have landed within 7 or less.

                                It's just a crazy scenario. Will Vegas or THE PUBLIC be right? we will soon found out.
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                                • Itsamazing777
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-14-12
                                  • 12602

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by smitch124
                                  I can't figure out what the hell's gonna happen in this game. Anything could happen, If I'm gonna bet something I want it to be something with a good payout. MSU ML.
                                  If you bet big on the right side regardless of the odds it will be a big payout. Dont let that make you choose a side
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                                  • smitch124
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 05-19-08
                                    • 12566

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Itsamazing777
                                    If you bet big on the right side regardless of the odds it will be a big payout. Dont let that make you choose a side
                                    Well what I'm saying is that the outcome is very uncertain, if I'm gonna bet on this game I'd rather have a very viable option that pays +230 instead of -110.
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388179

                                      #19
                                      All of you should be thinking like me it is a show me type bet meaning you have to take Michigan State and let Michigan show us their big time
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                                      • survive
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-08-11
                                        • 2388

                                        #20
                                        Line says it all IMO...just like the northwestern and byu lines
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                                        • jtoler
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                                          • 12-17-13
                                          • 30967

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by KnownUnknown
                                          <!-- / user info -->
                                          <!-- message, attachments, sig --> <!-- message --> Here is a local perspective (MI resident) of this game and the bad number that was placed on the game and now I'll say in more detail why I think it is such a bad number.

                                          A. The number is wacky to begin with- here is how I see the game unfolding. It will be a very hard-fought game. That usually means the score will be close or one team will win by a significant number of points (10 or more). In a close game you win betting Michigan State and taking the points.

                                          B. A lopsided outcome would happen because of mistakes made by one side or the other (fumbles/interceptions/total offensive ineffectiveness). If this event takes place- Michigan State will likely be the beneficiary because they have better offensive personnel than Michigan (imo). None of Michigan's receivers scare me in the least and neither does their run game and especially their QB. Defense can only take a team so far against another good team- you still have to generate points and especially against a large spread.

                                          C. Don't underestimate the emotional component of this game- in this case, once again I'll side with Michigan State for this particular match-up. Whether anyone is in agreement with my projection (and opinions) here or not- BOL to all it should be a great game.
                                          Obviously a State homer no? Michigan is giving up only 3 yards a play this season, 3 yards! Do you realize how crazy that is? Most teams give up over 3 yards per run play, Blue is giving that up on run and pass combined. Teams are only converting 19% of their 3rd downs on Blue, another crazy stat. In 5 games Blue has given up only 4 tds from scrimmage. Throw in State coming off a close hard fought game against Rutgers after collapsing and barely holding on against Purdue. We've all seen teams scrape by week after week only to finally lose, like whats happening to BYU right now as I speak. Take off the olive goggles my friend and put these Blue ones on.
                                          Last edited by jtoler; 10-16-15, 08:40 PM.
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                                          • BuckyOne
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-02-15
                                            • 2728

                                            #22
                                            It is kind of crazy MSU is 6-0 but is 0-6 ats? Would it be fair to say the Michigan schedule has been against a little better competition? To me the biggest thing is the rivalry and I see MSU stepping up to play a good game against their biggest rival.
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                                            • rm18
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 09-20-05
                                              • 22291

                                              #23
                                              Only reason Michigan St. has a chance is rivarly game this is a mismatch.
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                                              • smitch124
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-19-08
                                                • 12566

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by rm18
                                                Only reason Michigan St. has a chance is rivarly game this is a mismatch.
                                                Do you really feel Michigan's competition has been strong enough to be this strong a favorite against what has been a national power?
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                                                • FlipsideRM
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 09-28-11
                                                  • 10518

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by jtoler
                                                  Obviously a State homer no? Michigan is giving up only 3 yards a play this season, 3 yards! Do you realize how crazy that is? Most teams give up over 3 yards per run play, Blue is giving that up on run and pass combined. Teams are only converting 19% of their 3rd downs on Blue, another crazy stat. In 5 games Blue has given up only 4 tds from scrimmage. Throw in State coming off a close hard fought game against Rutgers after collapsing and barely holding on against Purdue. We've all seen teams scrape by week after week only to finally lose, like whats happening to BYU right now as I speak. Take off the olive goggles my friend and put these Blue ones on.
                                                  byu winning by 14 late broski
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                                                  • FlipsideRM
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 09-28-11
                                                    • 10518

                                                    #26
                                                    Saw a stat that MSU is 13-1 ATS and 7-1 straight up last games against Michigan on ESPN ticker. Can anyone verify this?
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #27
                                                      Spartans are 7-0 ATS in their last 7 meetings.
                                                      Under is 5-1 in the last 6 meetings.
                                                      Spartans are 4-1 ATS in their last 5 meetings in Michigan.
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                                                      • TheSchafe
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 12-29-09
                                                        • 2143

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                        Saw a stat that MSU is 13-1 ATS and 7-1 straight up last games against Michigan on ESPN ticker. Can anyone verify this?
                                                        Probably true...Sparty has ruled this instate rivalry. Not that it matters this season. Michigan -7.5
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                                                        • jtoler
                                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                          • 12-17-13
                                                          • 30967

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                                          byu winning by 14 late broski
                                                          Yes they came through, not sure State will have the same fate tomorrow.
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                                                          • jetstream
                                                            SBR Rookie
                                                            • 09-10-15
                                                            • 14

                                                            #30
                                                            this some trap game, i think michigan rolls by 14 plus
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                                                            • kmarinouofm
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-26-09
                                                              • 8437

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by ACCBball
                                                              MSU is really banged up. One of the best OL in country is decimated. Secondary looks bad. Cooks knee is not right. Harbaugh will show no mercy after the past 5 years of beatings. Like U of M here for those reasons.
                                                              this is exactly how I feel. Michigan is not going to stop. they are playing in ann arbor and Harbaugh is going to pile it on.

                                                              Michigan st is really banged up and almost lost to one of the worst rutgers teams in the last 10 years.

                                                              I truly think Michigan St gets blown out tomorrow. 42-10 Michigan Go Blue
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                                                              • kmarinouofm
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-26-09
                                                                • 8437

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by smitch124
                                                                Do you really feel Michigan's competition has been strong enough to be this strong a favorite against what has been a national power?
                                                                yes.

                                                                If they play Utah again they win. That game was about jitters..
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                                                                • sweethook
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                                                                  • 11-21-07
                                                                  • 12667

                                                                  #33
                                                                  games a flip .be careful
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                                                                  • Albert Pujols
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 06-01-10
                                                                    • 1670

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by survive
                                                                    Line says it all IMO...just like the northwestern and byu lines
                                                                    This.
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                                                                    • Albert Pujols
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 06-01-10
                                                                      • 1670

                                                                      #35
                                                                      I teased Michigan with the Seahawks. I know college teasers are generally a bad idea, but I have been so opinionated about this matchup and just wanted to pound the hell out of Michigan -3. Line came out 6 and I didn't hit it, and then it was too late once it went to 7.5. I don't know how anyone could bet against Michigan right now, and the books are going to get hammered if it lands on 7.
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