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  • slash
    SBR MVP
    • 08-10-05
    • 1000

    #1
    What do you think of this deal??
    An employee from one of the bigger Danish newspapers has been offering the following deal for a couple of years now:

    Deposit x amount with him and let him bet with it for 1 year. He will post all his plays every day. In case he wins, you will get 50-75% of the winnings (a sponsor or guarantor takes the rest). In case he loses, you will always get x amount + 5% after one year.

    The payments are made yearly or earlier if certain conditions of the "club" in question is fulfilled (one of the clubs has the condition that payments are made either after one year or when the money is doubled if that happens earlier).

    So in other words, you are guaranteed a 5% interest, but you have the option of getting way more.

    Is this too good to be true?

    I have joined 3 of his current clubs. One of them is especially good, as he is betting horses (V75 if that means anything to persons outside Scandinavia). The volatility on this one is very very high, but as you are guaranteed 5% no matter what, the option value is huge. Last year they managed to double the initial deposits giving you a 100% interest in 1 year. 2 Years ago they lost it all though paying out only x + 5%.
  • Korchnoi
    SBR Sharp
    • 10-20-06
    • 406

    #2
    where does he get the x+5% from if he looses all your money?
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    • slash
      SBR MVP
      • 08-10-05
      • 1000

      #3
      He claims to have a guarantor who pays the losses. This guarantor also takes a % of the eventual winnings. I suspect though that he uses deposits from new clubs to pay off old clubs - a ponzi scheme, but I have no idea.
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      • Korchnoi
        SBR Sharp
        • 10-20-06
        • 406

        #4
        It must be a ponzi sceme. Why would the guarantor be a guarantor when he could be a full participant?
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        • tacomax
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 08-10-05
          • 9619

          #5
          Originally posted by slash
          I have joined 3 of his current clubs.
          I bet that slash is first in line when the magic bean seller comes to town.
          Originally posted by pags11
          SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
          Originally posted by BuddyBear
          I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
          Originally posted by curious
          taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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          • Willie Bee
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-14-06
            • 15726

            #6
            Originally posted by tacomax
            I bet that slash is first in line when the magic bean seller comes to town.
            Nah, my brother-in-law is first and he says he never sees a dude with a big 'fro like that behind him.
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            • slash
              SBR MVP
              • 08-10-05
              • 1000

              #7
              Taco, it might surprise persons like you that there are countries in this world where everybody aren't fukked up scammers. I happen to live in such a country.
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              • Korchnoi
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-20-06
                • 406

                #8
                Originally posted by slash
                Taco, it might surprise persons like you that there are countries in this world where everybody aren't fukked up scammers. I happen to live in such a country.
                All kidding aside, there's no way this is legit. Why would the guarantor give up all that equity for nothing?
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                • HAPPY BOY
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 08-10-05
                  • 7109

                  #9
                  Originally posted by slash
                  Taco, it might surprise persons like you that there are countries in this world where everybody aren't fukked up scammers. I happen to live in such a country.
                  Damn Slash that avitar pic is a cross between Howard Stern and Angela Davis
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                  • tacomax
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 08-10-05
                    • 9619

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Korchnoi
                    All kidding aside, there's no way this is legit. Why would the guarantor give up all that equity for nothing?
                    Anyone interested in this deal might be interested in my online casino. Normal casino roulette only pay you evens on black/red and give the house a big edge with the 0 on the wheel.

                    My casino is different. I payout at odds of 2-1 on red/black. Only a fool would pass up an offer like that. I'm literally giving money away here.

                    Anyone interested should send me funds via Western Union and tell me which colour they want to choose. I'll then spin my roulette wheel and, if you are a winner, I'll send you back your deposit with your winnings in a matter of minutes. If you lose then I'll even offer you a 50% reload bonus with only a x1 rollover.
                    Originally posted by pags11
                    SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                    Originally posted by BuddyBear
                    I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                    Originally posted by curious
                    taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                    • isetcap
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-16-05
                      • 4006

                      #11
                      These are all very good Danish Deals.
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                      • Lucas
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-20-05
                        • 1062

                        #12
                        I would not consider it for more than 1.5 sec. Every country has nice volume of scammers. The logic of Korchnoi is evidence. Rather join the Taco-Iset concern, they need a Danish CEO, because the country is well known as "where everybody aren't fukked up scammers"
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                        • isetcap
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-16-05
                          • 4006

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Lucas
                          I would not consider it for more than 1.5 sec. Every country has nice volume of scammers. The logic of Korchnoi is evidence. Rather join the Taco-Iset concern, they need a Danish CEO, because the country is well known as "where everybody aren't fukked up scammers"
                          That is Denmark's motto:

                          Where Everybody Aren't Fukked Up Scammers
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                          • SBR_John
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 07-12-05
                            • 16471

                            #14
                            It is possible. We saw the brothers in Costa Rica pay 3% a month for 6-7 years before they got pinched.

                            If you are very sophisticated you can scalp soccer between Asian lines and Euro lines. But if he just picking a side then its only a matter of time before he starts selling tooth whitener.
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                            • isetcap
                              SBR MVP
                              • 12-16-05
                              • 4006

                              #15
                              This is Costa Rica's motto:

                              Where Not Nobody Aren't Fukked Up Scammers
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                              • Yoshi
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 08-29-06
                                • 548

                                #16
                                Originally posted by slash
                                Taco, it might surprise persons like you that there are countries in this world where everybody aren't fukked up scammers. I happen to live in such a country.
                                Danes are usually smart and want to lock in winnings rather than gamble (didnt they start all the bonus farming), but why should there be less scammers there than anywhere else?
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                                • slash
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 08-10-05
                                  • 1000

                                  #17
                                  Are you saying that you wouldn't trust this guy???
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                                  • Korchnoi
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 10-20-06
                                    • 406

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by SBR_John
                                    It is possible. We saw the brothers in Costa Rica pay 3% a month for 6-7 years before they got pinched.

                                    If you are very sophisticated you can scalp soccer between Asian lines and Euro lines. But if he just picking a side then its only a matter of time before he starts selling tooth whitener.
                                    If they were legit scalpers, why did they need to pay so much to borrow the money? When you say "pinched" do you mean arrested (if so for what?) or they got in a pinched in the sense of their position blew up (b/c their hedge was bad or a default)?
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                                    • chano
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 07-02-06
                                      • 602

                                      #19
                                      Slash, come on you really did not join these clubs, did you? If you did you need some serious help. I am surprised you would even bring this to our attention on a serious level.
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                                      • tacomax
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 08-10-05
                                        • 9619

                                        #20
                                        Interesting data here:

                                        Originally posted by pags11
                                        SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                        Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                        I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                        Originally posted by curious
                                        taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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                                        • sjelveh
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 09-27-05
                                          • 403

                                          #21
                                          I don’t know what’s better jjgold’s posts or taco’s one liners
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                                          • Dark Horse
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 12-14-05
                                            • 13764

                                            #22
                                            5% return isn't much. Not for a sports gambler. I'd rather keep my money working for me. Isn't that the point of betting? Why work for money when it can work for you?
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                                            • ourbet
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 12-23-05
                                              • 464

                                              #23
                                              That is soooo funny Taco; I couldn't stop laughing for ages! Seriously though, do you have any data on Thailand at all?
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                                              • tacomax
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 08-10-05
                                                • 9619

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by ourbet
                                                That is soooo funny Taco; I couldn't stop laughing for ages! Seriously though, do you have any data on Thailand at all?
                                                If you want to buy some magic beans from me ($100 a time, payment via Western Union - PM me for details) then I can try to extrapolate the data for Thailand as a whole.
                                                Originally posted by pags11
                                                SBR would never get rid of me...ever...
                                                Originally posted by BuddyBear
                                                I'd probably most likely chose Pags to jack off too.
                                                Originally posted by curious
                                                taco is not a troll, he is a bubonic plague bacteria.
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