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  • SEAHAWKHARRY
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    • 11-29-07
    • 26068

    #71
    Yeah but states like Texas ARIZONA Nevada Montana South Dakota Oklahoma KANSAS Missouri tennesse Alabama West Virginia

    Won't allow it never will happen
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    • scumbag
      SBR MVP
      • 11-02-13
      • 3504

      #72
      Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
      So our prisons will be full of gun owners awesome great idea fukk that 99% of gun owners are law abiding citizens no way in hell will I give up my rights to own a firearm and a conceal carry permit fukk that I will protect my family friends and strangers against the madmen of this world arm teachers prevent massacres train teachers on gun SAFTEY and threat takedown tactics. Put retired vets in schools to patrol the campuses spend money on security and manpower at schools
      are you in a well-regulated militia? more guns... what a penetrating idiot.
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      • lakerboy
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-02-09
        • 94379

        #73
        Originally posted by opie1988
        There will never be a gun ban in this country. Period.

        It's pointless to keep fantasizing about that, but if you enjoy it, go ahead.
        100% true.
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        • scumbag
          SBR MVP
          • 11-02-13
          • 3504

          #74
          Originally posted by JIBBBY
          Take away all the violent video games young kids are growing up with and playing around the clock, lock your guns up if you have teens around.. Don't over media emphasis a school shooting for everyone to see all the time.. (seeds and ideas are planted in these things)

          That would be a good start I think in helping with the problem...
          don't be a moron who gargles NRA dick.
          "Guns don't kill people. Video games, the media, and Obama's budget kill people," NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre said at a press conference one week after the mass shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary.
          smarten up
          Video game research is in its infancy. No one’s yet produced a study linking video games to violent crime, and where behavioral researchers claim to have found relatively weak links between violent video games and increased aggressive behavior, those studies fail to quantify or contextualize said aggression. More aggressive than playing (or watching) something like football? Drinking several cups of coffee? Engaging in other forms of gamesmanship?
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          • SharpAngles
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            • 04-15-14
            • 9467

            #75


            The stupid gun arguments itt reminded me its been a few months since I cleaned my Glock 21

            Thanks for that reminder
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            • BrickJames
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              • 05-05-11
              • 9749

              #76
              Originally posted by SharpAngles


              The stupid gun arguments itt reminded me its been a few months since I cleaned my Glock 21

              Thanks for that reminder
              Glocks suck. Stick to double action pistols and you wont end up like plexico. My postol of choice is a Ruger P94.
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              • bruceBRUCEbruce
                SBR MVP
                • 06-20-09
                • 2560

                #77
                Originally posted by SharpAngles


                The stupid gun arguments itt reminded me its been a few months since I cleaned my Glock 21

                Thanks for that reminder
                4 out of the 8 countries represented by these "leaders" never ever had any significant gun control laws
                and further almost all of them were in office during eras where automatic assault weapons were not available either at all or on a large scale to the respective citizenry in their countries

                go ahead, clean your glock, might make you feel like a big man but you'll still have a small dik
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                • SharpAngles
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                  • 04-15-14
                  • 9467

                  #78
                  Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce
                  4 out of the 8 countries represented by these "leaders" never ever had any significant gun control laws
                  and further almost all of them were in office during eras where automatic assault weapons were not available either at all or on a large scale to the respective citizenry in their countries

                  go ahead, clean your glock, might make you feel like a big man but you'll still have a small dik
                  Just a little pro gun idiocy to balance out all the fools talking about turning in our guns

                  And I can promise you having a pistol is about protecting my family and home, not because I have 2 inches of raging fury
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                  • BrickJames
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 05-05-11
                    • 9749

                    #79
                    Originally posted by SharpAngles
                    Just a little pro gun idiocy to balance out all the fools talking about turning in our guns

                    And I can promise you having a pistol is about protecting my family and home, not because I have 2 inches of raging fury
                    So if one of your kids finds it and kills himself,did you do a good job of protecting them?
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                    • BrickJames
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-05-11
                      • 9749

                      #80
                      Originally posted by SharpAngles
                      Just a little pro gun idiocy to balance out all the fools talking about turning in our guns

                      And I can promise you having a pistol is about protecting my family and home, not because I have 2 inches of raging fury

                      If someone breaks into your house and steals your Glock did you do a good deed for your community?
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                      • Jeffie
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-06-12
                        • 3428

                        #81
                        This has nothing to do with Gun control like stated numerous times if i person wants to shoot up a school hes gonna find a gun period.
                        This is about nutjobs who probably werent raised properly and turned into Psychos.
                        You know how i learned from right or wrong? my dad would beat the fuk out of me if i disrespected someone.
                        Parents need to step the fuk up and discipline there kids, and dont have kids if you cant take care of one or dating a POS of a "Man"
                        This doesnt fix everything but i know dam well you would see less of this or hardly ever at all.
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                        • High3rEl3m3nt
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                          • 09-28-10
                          • 8022

                          #82
                          Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                          Yeah but states like Texas ARIZONA Nevada Montana South Dakota Oklahoma KANSAS Missouri tennesse Alabama West Virginia

                          Won't allow it never will happen
                          Add Utah, Idaho, Wyoming, and a bunch of others.
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                          • SEAHAWKHARRY
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 11-29-07
                            • 26068

                            #83
                            Yup
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                            • capitalist pig
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                              • 01-25-07
                              • 4998

                              #84
                              Every day in the USA 30 people are killed by drunk drivers,(Govt Stats), the same Govt stats show 30 people are killed everyday from guns in some way or another. Im pro gun, pro booze, pro personal freedom and people have and will die due to the freedoms we expect and want.

                              later
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                              • BrickJames
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-05-11
                                • 9749

                                #85
                                Originally posted by capitalist pig
                                Every day in the USA 30 people are killed by drunk drivers,(Govt Stats), the same Govt stats show 30 people are killed everyday from guns in some way or another. Im pro gun, pro booze, pro personal freedom and people have and will die due to the freedoms we expect and want.

                                later
                                Well said
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                                • pavyracer
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82839

                                  #86
                                  Poor teachers. They get paid $30,000 a year, work 12 hrs every day, and after leaving school they will have to go to the shooting range to become snipers so they can shoot the school attacker from the other side of the cafeteria when he attacks.

                                  Some of the world's best geniuses are posting at SBR.
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                                  • SharpAngles
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                                    • 04-15-14
                                    • 9467

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by BrickJames
                                    So if one of your kids finds it and kills himself,did you do a good job of protecting them?
                                    Originally posted by BrickJames
                                    If someone breaks into your house and steals your Glock did you do a good deed for your community?
                                    Ever heard of a biometric lockbox? Or common fuking sense?
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                                    • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 11-29-07
                                      • 26068

                                      #88
                                      Most teachers are not poor and this would be paid training and what is your idea to help the kids who sit in a classroom defenseless when a madman walks in with a gun Paveyracer if you had a son or daughter in that classroom would you:

                                      Want to teacher to be armed
                                      Or disarmed

                                      What do you want PAVY?
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                                      • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 11-29-07
                                        • 26068

                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by SharpAngles
                                        Ever heard of a biometric lockbox? Or common fuking sense?
                                        yes this would be needed
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                                        • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 11-29-07
                                          • 26068

                                          #90
                                          SO I ASK EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD
                                          SCENERIO:

                                          Madman walks onto elementary school campus walks towards your child's classroom armed with gun

                                          Who wants teacher armed in classroom at that point;

                                          What's your argument for having teacher disarmed
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                                          • pavyracer
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 04-12-07
                                            • 82839

                                            #91
                                            Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                            Most teachers are not poor and this would be paid training and what is your idea to help the kids who sit in a classroom defenseless when a madman walks in with a gun Paveyracer if you had a son or daughter in that classroom would you:

                                            Want to teacher to be armed
                                            Or disarmed

                                            What do you want PAVY?
                                            There is an armed policeman at my kids school. Why will I want the teachers having guns? Have you lost your mind?
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                                            • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 11-29-07
                                              • 26068

                                              #92
                                              Why not let the ones who already bring in a gun in their desk for protection have the legal ability to do so
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                                              • SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 11-29-07
                                                • 26068

                                                #93
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                There is an armed policeman at my kids school. Why will I want the teachers having guns? Have you lost your mind?
                                                Texas have teachers in classroom armed


                                                When was the last time you heard of a school shooting in texas
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                                                • scumbag
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 11-02-13
                                                  • 3504

                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by capitalist pig
                                                  Every day in the USA 30 people are killed by drunk drivers,(Govt Stats), the same Govt stats show 30 people are killed everyday from guns in some way or another. Im pro gun, pro booze, pro personal freedom and people have and will die due to the freedoms we expect and want.

                                                  later
                                                  don't people have the right not to be mowed down by some drunk driver or some mentally ill savage toting an assault weapon? the 'right to life' trumps your perceived right to drive shit-faced down the road with an AK-47 in your passenger seat.
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                                                  • BrickJames
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                                                    • 05-05-11
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by SharpAngles
                                                    Ever heard of a biometric lockbox? Or common fuking sense?
                                                    Okay so now you got this thing in a lockbox how the hell are you going to protect your family obviously you've never been in the situation where you actually use the gun but the s*** happens real fast buddy you're not going to have time to open your lockbox in the middle of the night in the dark horse with an intruder in your house who's probably high on meth his eyes are adjusted to the dark lighting and he's wide awake you just woke up I was sleep now you're going to go grab your gun out of the lockbox let me guess you probably have the bullets in a safe downstairs to right
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                                                    • BrickJames
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                                                      • 05-05-11
                                                      • 9749

                                                      #96
                                                      Also that does not protect it from burglars trust me they will go buy a pry bar and pry that s*** open
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                                                      • BrickJames
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                                                        • 05-05-11
                                                        • 9749

                                                        #97
                                                        The actual truth is if you keep a gun in your house or something like 10 times more likely to get shot with a gun like I said earlier if you want to protect your home family and property by a German Shepherd it never takes a day off cannot be bribed cannot be argued with has no fear and will die for anyone in your family
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                                                        • The Kraken
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                                                          • 12-25-11
                                                          • 28918

                                                          #98
                                                          Again, I would pull my kid out of any school that allows teachers to possess a gun. Its a ridiculous idea. Logic tells me that if an armed gunman walks into a class room, they're going for the teacher first.

                                                          Now, the teacher stands nearly zero percent chance of making a difference here, they just won't have the time. Maybe they're at the board teaching, or helping a student. Hell, even if they're sitting at their desk, good luck unlocking your safe under a barrage of 5.56 NATO tounds, and then if your successful, good luck actually hitting a target while they're firing at you.

                                                          It's crazy to think that some people accept this as the best idea.

                                                          Principal? Sure, throw an M4 in their office, if they want it. They couldn't make much of a difference either, these things just happen too quickly, but Id rather the Principal the only one with access.
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                                                          • The Kraken
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                                                            • 12-25-11
                                                            • 28918

                                                            #99
                                                            Put an armed vet in each school????

                                                            Holy fukk Harry, you're certifiably insane.

                                                            Our vets suffer mental illness and PTSD at extreme high rates, now you want to arm them and put at elementary schools?

                                                            WTF man
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                                                            • Mac4Lyfe
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-04-09
                                                              • 48384

                                                              #100
                                                              Some of these SBR posters are as fukked up as our government. Just throwing stupid ideas out there hoping something sticks.

                                                              Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                              Put an armed vet in each school????

                                                              Holy fukk Harry, you're certifiably insane.

                                                              Our vets suffer mental illness and PTSD at extreme high rates, now you want to arm them and put at elementary schools?

                                                              WTF man
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                                                              • BuckyOne
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                                                                • 01-02-15
                                                                • 2728

                                                                #101
                                                                Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                                Could you design a bullet with a microchip that deactivates in certain areas making it useless it seems ridiculous but so was wireless phones back in the 70's and electric cars in the 80's

                                                                Could a bullet be designed with a microchip that prevents it being used in areas designated
                                                                wouldn't morons just go to reload school and make their own ammunitition?
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                                                                • The Kraken
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                                                                  • 12-25-11
                                                                  • 28918

                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
                                                                  Some of these SBR posters are as fukked up as our government. Just throwing stupid ideas out there hoping something sticks.
                                                                  I'm quite sure we have about half a dozen posters here that are capable of such an act

                                                                  I just read an article that said the shooter was posting on a forum about his dislike for blacks. And then it turns out he had 6 guns with him and 7 more at home.

                                                                  Ya, we got a few here
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                                                                  • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                                                                    • 11-29-07
                                                                    • 26068

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                    Put an armed vet in each school????

                                                                    Holy fukk Harry, you're certifiably insane.

                                                                    Our vets suffer mental illness and PTSD at extreme high rates, now you want to arm them and put at elementary schools?

                                                                    WTF man
                                                                    So every vet has ptsd I don't think so
                                                                    I'm just trying to figure out a way to protect our kids right now

                                                                    Banning all guns in America is a ridiculous idea that has no legs so if a armed man comes to the school kraken would you want a teacher or facility member armed or a vet armed standing guard or nothing just hope the gunman misses your child average time to all school shootings is ten minutes that's a fukk ton of time would you rather wait on police

                                                                    Or have a armed person at the school who will protect our students
                                                                    Cand this thread should be void of all trolls so so name calling is needed this is a serious issue we are debating and no I sm not insane just worried about this increasing violent issue at our schools I have three kids kraken
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                                                                    • jjgold
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                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388179

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Harry I like your work lately

                                                                      Tremendous
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                                                                      • The Kraken
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                                                                        • 12-25-11
                                                                        • 28918

                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                                                        So every vet has ptsd I don't think so
                                                                        I'm just trying to figure out a way to protect our kids right now

                                                                        Banning all guns in America is a ridiculous idea that has no legs so if a armed man comes to the school kraken would you want a teacher or facility member armed or a vet armed standing guard or nothing just hope the gunman misses your child average time to all school shootings is ten minutes that's a fukk ton of time would you rather wait on police

                                                                        Or have a armed person at the school who will protect our students
                                                                        Cand this thread should be void of all trolls so so name calling is needed this is a serious issue we are debating and no I sm not insane just worried about this increasing violent issue at our schools I have three kids kraken
                                                                        First, I never said every vet has PTSD, just pointed out that all along we've been discussing what a big role mental illness plays in these types of shootings, and roughly 10-15% of vets have PTSD. Thats a big number.

                                                                        i don't mind Opies idea of the principal having a gun, any gun, I honestly don't care. The problem, not all principals would be ok with this, it would be hit or miss on which schools would have such protection. I am 100% against teachers having guns.

                                                                        It always comes back to the same thing though Harry, and lets use this most recent shooting as an example. Say the teacher would have had a gun, as you propose, it would have done no good. The shooter walked straight up to hom, and shot him point blank. Thats what would happen. What teacher would stay 100% at their desk, next to their safe? Even if they did, they would still be shot.

                                                                        Think of how much time it would take to unlick the safe, open it, take out the gun, aim it and fire. 10 seconds probably and thats if you were right there. Thats too much time brother, the teacher would be dead every time.

                                                                        I, like you, would love a solution, but it has to be sensical and not create more danger than it is supposedly protecting from.
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