Arm Teachers to save our children

[jtoler]

Thats a silly idea Harry. Its about the drop not who's armed.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

There wasn't school shootings in the 50's and 60's what's changed

The moral slide down of our civilization. The Internet and TV. All three of those issues have caused our society to be non-chalant about violence and death . FUKKING video games are the cause of kids minds becoming numb to violence carnage foul language and such

[BrickJames]

There wasn't school shootings in the 50's and 60's what's changed

The moral slide down of our civilization. The Internet and TV. All three of those issues have caused our society to be non-chalant about violence and death . FUKKING video games are the cause of kids minds becoming numb to violence carnage foul language and such

Ok, well if thats the case than you just proved my point. Bravo

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

No points to prove guns were avail back then as well guns will always be avail and the moral degradation of or society is just a slippery slope so to slow it down you need to arm the places that are being attacked it's very simple
Arming schools won't stop every killing but will prevent mass killings and less of these tragedys. We are at war with the sick demented people out there be it a terrorist or a misguided individual what do you do during war get better weapons out gun the madmen
Laws stricter gun control prison doesn't help

A well trained teacher or school official ability to take out a perp with a headshot.... Priceless

[jtoler]

Problem is the nuts that do this are prepared to die, arming teachers changes nothing. If a nut wanted to go down to the police station and kill a couple cops he could, would probably die in the process, but thats usually ok with them.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Problem is the nuts that do this are prepared to die, arming teachers changes nothing. If a nut wanted to go down to the police station and kill a couple cops he could, would probably die in the process, but thats usually ok with them.

What's the chances of a armed nutjob killing unarmed teachers and their students being the same with a armed teacher on campus or facility. The response time for the avg police dept to arrive on a active shooter call is 10 mins the response time for a teacher or teachers and facility to confront that shooter a lot less less time for them to kill masses

[JIBBBY]

How about armed guards patrolling every school campus in America 24/7?

Nut jobs would just target other public places like movies theaters, malls, etc.. No way to fix this problem... If someone is on a mission to kill innocent people it can be done with a gun, a bomb, a car, etc..

Just gotta get use to this happening a few times a year unfortunately....

[jtoler]

What's the chances of a armed nutjob killing unarmed teachers and their students being the same with a armed teacher on campus or facility. The response time for the avg police dept to arrive on a active shooter call is 10 mins the response time for a teacher or teachers and facility to confront that shooter a lot less less time for them to kill masses

Again its about the drop. So lets say a teacher is armed and I come into the classroom and point a gun at the teacher, I can take that gun and kill everybody in the classroom.

[Mr KLC]

Read my retort in the other thread about this. You can talk all day long about too many guns being the problem. That's the lazy argument for fixing the issue. The problem is much deeper than that. It's instilled with the present culture. Guns have been around for centuries, and we didn't have an escalation of this problem like we do now. This is more about social media idiots seeing that this is the only way to get their 15 minutes of fame.

[jtoler]

And these school massacres arnt new, you can go back as far as the 1760's to find such.

[Booya711]

90% of the teachers don't even know how to teach, but we should give them guns

while the teacher is off fukking one of the students, another student will steal the teacher's gun

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Read my retort in the other thread about this. You can talk all day long about too many guns being the problem. That's the lazy argument for fixing the issue. The problem is much deeper than that. It's instilled with the present culture. Guns have been around for centuries, and we didn't have an escalation of this problem like we do now. This is more about social media idiots seeing that this is the only way to get their 15 minutes of fame.

Yup

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Again its about the drop. So lets say a teacher is armed and I come into the classroom and point a gun at the teacher, I can take that gun and kill everybody in the classroom.

but he already has one so the teacher next door hears the shots and takes gunman out or the next teacher does I would think many with guns at campus can get to classroom and do what the police cannot because they are on their way

[JIBBBY]

Take away all the violent video games young kids are growing up with and playing around the clock, lock your guns up if you have teens around.. Don't over media emphasis a school shooting for everyone to see all the time.. (seeds and ideas are planted in these things)

That would be a good start I think in helping with the problem...

[lakerboy]

More guns. Lmao. Only in the usa.

[jtoler]

but he already has one so the teacher next door hears the shots and takes gunman out or the next teacher does I would think many with guns at campus can get to classroom and do what the police cannot because they are on their way

Which is why you lock the door, try convincing a teacher they need to be armed to teach and theyd choose another profession, now you have less teachers and less students, there have been cases where the school personnel went ape, not an outsider. Metal detectors would help, some schools have them and cops who work there, you cant stop crime, a nut would just find another target.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

More guns. Lmao. Only in the usa.

same USA that allows you to airbet lakerboy
When u live in a glass house don't throw rocks boy

[Mac4Lyfe]

Are you nuts? The killer yesterday could have walked into the classroom, approached the armed teacher and shoot them in the head WAAAAAAY before said trained teacher has a chance to get to their gun. The teacher would be the first person targeted if you arm them. Any snotty nose kid can take out a teacher and a classroom in a matter of seconds with a high powered firearm. Even if the students are armed, they will never be able to react fast enough in the face of a madman.

This notion of arming yourself in order to protect yourself in a vulnerable setting (school, church, movie theater, a park) is ludicrous. Every day over a 100 banks are robbed, most successfully with armed security officers in the building. How do you think they do it? They have the element of surprise. Good luck having a gun in your glove compartment when someone shoots you from a freeway overpass. You don't have a chance.

The biggest fallacy the NRA is spewing is that a gun in your hand makes you safer. Horseshit. A deranged, mentally ill individual that has no value of their own life cannot be countered effectively. They can't be reasoned with and have no limits to their carnage. Them having access to guns is a very scary thing. Can you imagine if they had access to bombs too? How are you going to stop a suicide bomber with your hand gun locked in a drawer? Stop the stupidity. We have to find ways to prevent stupid people from having access to high powered weapons that can kill masses. Thankfully, we're only worried about guns right now. One day idiots may use bombs or chemical weapons? How you going to stop someone bent on killing people in a blaze of glory? It's not about guns, guns is just the beginning. It's about these fukking nutcases. We have to find ways to treat mental illness. But removing weapons off the street can only help.

What's the chances of a armed nutjob killing unarmed teachers and their students being the same with a armed teacher on campus or facility. The response time for the avg police dept to arrive on a active shooter call is 10 mins the response time for a teacher or teachers and facility to confront that shooter a lot less less time for them to kill masses

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

But what happens if you lock the door with the gunman in classroom all eady

[JIBBBY]

Easy solution fix -

Walk thru Metal Detectors and light body searches at all school entrances.. Install school prison like fencing to secure all perimeter areas to avoid breaches..

Treat every school like a court house or prison when coming and going.. Can't get guns through that..

[lakerboy]

same USA that allows you to airbet lakerboy
When u live in a glass house don't throw rocks boy

Harry I live in canada.
More guns aren't the solution. When is the us civil war and wild west shootout going to end?

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Are you nuts? The killer yesterday could have walked into the classroom, approached the armed teacher and shoot them in the head WAAAAAAY before said trained teacher has a chance to get to their gun. The teacher would be the first person targeted if you arm them. Any snotty nose kid can take out a teacher and a classroom in a matter of seconds with a high powered firearm. Even if the students are armed, they will never be able to react fast enough in the face of a madman.

This notion of arming yourself in order to protect yourself in a vulnerable setting (school, church, movie theater, a park) is ludicrous. Every day over a 100 banks are robbed, most successfully with armed security officers in the building. How do you think they do it? They have the element of surprise. Good luck having a gun in your glove compartment when someone shoots you from a freeway overpass. You don't have a chance.

The biggest fallacy the NRA is spewing is that a gun in your hand makes you safer. Horseshit. A deranged, mentally ill individual that has no value of their own life cannot be countered effectively. They can't be reasoned with and have no limits to their carnage. Them having access to guns is a very scary thing. Can you imagine if they had access to bombs too? How are you going to stop a suicide bomber with your hand gun locked in a drawer? Stop the stupidity. We have to find ways to prevent stupid people from having access to high powered weapons that can kill masses. Thankfully, we're only worried about guns right now. One day idiots may use bombs or chemical weapons? How you going to stop someone bent on killing people in a blaze of glory? It's not about guns, guns is just the beginning. It's about these fukking nutcases. We have to find ways to treat mental illness. But removing weapons off the street can only help.

If teacher next door was armed he or she could have taken out the nutjob before he went to each person asking them if they were religious or not in 10 mins I'll take my chances with a armed teacher than a teacher just trying to hide and be quiet

[jtoler]

But what happens if you lock the door with the gunman in classroom all eady

The gunman kills as many as he can, remember they are prepared to die.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

Easy solution fix -

Walk thru Metal Detectors and light body searches at all school entrances.. Install school prison like fencing to secure all perimeter areas to avoid breaches..

Treat every school like a court house when coming and going.. Can't get guns through that..

That is true

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

The gunman kills as many as he can, remember they are prepared to die.

Armed school faculty is a good idea I m o

And secure schools with metal detectors is also something to look at

[jtoler]

Armed school faculty is a good idea I m o

And secure schools with metal detectors is also something to look at

I guarantee you if I had a passion to teach it'd go right out the window if I had to be armed. I wouldnt want to go to a school either knowing the teacher is armed, who's to say that teacher isnt a nut. Surely there would be cases of teachers killing other teachers, students, you name it, its happened before anyway.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

I guarantee you if I had a passion to teach it'd go right out the window if I had to be armed. I wouldnt want to go to a school either knowing the teacher is armed, who's to say that teacher isnt a nut. Surely there would be cases of teachers killing other teachers, students, you name it, its happened before anyway.

I would feel safe knowing I had someone watching my back that is armed and could kill the perp

[bruceBRUCEbruce]

fukk that 99% of gun owners are law abiding citizens

means nothing
they're all law abiding citizens & responsible gun owners...until they aren't

There wasn't school shootings in the 50's and 60's what's changed

easy access to automatic weapons for anyone who wants one
duh?

yr ideas in this thread are so mind-blowingly dumb I'm going to assume this is sarcasm

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

means nothing
they're all law abiding citizens & responsible gun owners...until they aren't

easy access to automatic weapons for anyone who wants one
duh?

yr ideas in this thread are so mind-blowingly dumb I'm going to assume this is sarcasm

That is your opinion but realistically in USA there will never be gun control ever so you must find a way to even the playing field arming faculty is the right idea

[jtoler]

Massacres are still miniscule in the grand scheme of things, its just one of those unfortunate things of life.

[SEAHAWKHARRY]

true seems like we're watching a horror movie with all the violence

[ROFLcopter]

Another example of how this country is a Fukking embarrassment and the rest of the world laughs their ass off at us

[BrickJames]

Seems to me all the gun advocates are so selfish that they will suggest any ridiculous thing as long as they get to keep their guns when in reality everyone knows gun violence would drop sharply with a national gun ban

[opie1988]

There will never be a gun ban in this country. Period.

It's pointless to keep fantasizing about that, but if you enjoy it, go ahead.

[BrickJames]

There will never be a gun ban in this country. Period.

It's pointless to keep fantasizing about that, but if you enjoy it, go ahead.

Amendments are overturned all the time. If enough people want them and they will be banned that's how our republic works.