the new NON PRO rule here is a slap in the face to the SBR PROS who help build, support give back and promote strongly more PRO entries. all those useful and generous free play points given to the endless SBR non pros that will enter and ghost in are useless.
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El Nino
SBR Posting Legend
05-03-12
18426
#73
Kick out non-pros halfway through like usual.
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greenhippo
SBR Hall of Famer
02-15-12
9091
#74
Originally posted by Optional
There is 50% more points given away each week than last year and the Cash prizes appear to be 50% larger too.
She'll be right.
50% more points and 500% more entrants, all of which won't be pro and will waste those FP points away. Cash prizes to people with a phone number and a free account? Not many pro's ok with that as well.
I can confidently say that if I wasn't a pro and was allowed to cash in this contest (I won't anyhow) I sure wouldn't think "hey I won some money, let me give some of it back" They're going to take the money and run, if they don't want to fork over the $100 to be a pro, there is a reason for it.
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BughouseMasters
SBR Hustler
08-03-15
68
#75
Sorry all but I'm new to this contest but am wondering what % did the top 30 pay last year? Like how good do you have to pick in order to get a prize? And what is "non pro" vs "pro" mean? I'm assuming it has something to do with spending to be a "pro" member of SBR? Anyway I'm in and looking forward to this! O
OH yeah, when is deadline to submit picks?
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SharpAngles
SBR Hall of Famer
04-15-14
9467
#76
Fkn stupid rules change. Whats the fkn point of pro if this is how it is, not to mention getting cok slapped around with the joke of a poker software.
Guess they need the most phone numbers possible to sell off and subsidize this thing. Everyone should probably expect some calls from Costa Rican touts and Nigerian scam artists real soon
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Optional
Administrator
06-10-10
61680
#77
Originally posted by BughouseMasters
Sorry all but I'm new to this contest but am wondering what % did the top 30 pay last year? Like how good do you have to pick in order to get a prize? And what is "non pro" vs "pro" mean? I'm assuming it has something to do with spending to be a "pro" member of SBR? Anyway I'm in and looking forward to this! O
Click the "Become a Pro" link under your avatar for details of the pro membership.
The Prick will make his 5 picks by Tuesday each week and you can then make yours any time after that through to last match kickoff.
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BughouseMasters
SBR Hustler
08-03-15
68
#78
Thank you - but whats this I read about the picks that the prick picks will be removed right away meaning we cant pick those same games he did??? What's up with that?
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BughouseMasters
SBR Hustler
08-03-15
68
#79
Answer by SBR: The contest is scored by net units, so if you get better numbers over the course of a reason and do better with your 2-unit best bets, you can rank higher than a contestant who did horribly on their best bets but did better on single plays.
Also, how come some people with better win %'s ended up lower? Can someone explain the way they rank people?
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shaunovery
SBR Posting Legend
11-15-07
18143
#80
Originally posted by BughouseMasters
Thank you - but whats this I read about the picks that the prick picks will be removed right away meaning we cant pick those same games he did??? What's up with that?
Yes can't pick the same as him , and also it's done on units not %
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BughouseMasters
SBR Hustler
08-03-15
68
#81
What does the Prick usually pick, CFL or NFL? totals or sides?
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Ra77er
SBR Posting Legend
06-20-11
10969
#82
PM poster seaweed for prick picks
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FlipsideRM
SBR Posting Legend
09-28-11
10518
#83
Originally posted by Ra77er
PM poster seaweed for prick picks
Lmao
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horja1
SBR Hall of Famer
01-13-11
5646
#84
Originally posted by BughouseMasters
What does the Prick usually pick, CFL or NFL? totals or sides?
yes
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shaunovery
SBR Posting Legend
11-15-07
18143
#85
Originally posted by BughouseMasters
What does the Prick usually pick, CFL or NFL? totals or sides?
There's no cfl just the rules it explains it clearly
Just spreads and totals in nfl and NCAA
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astro61200
SBR MVP
09-15-07
4843
#86
Originally posted by BughouseMasters
What does the Prick usually pick, CFL or NFL? totals or sides?
It's a pretty even distribution.. usually picks sides more than totals but it's a pretty even split between NFL/NCAA
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82839
#87
Non-pros can play and can win cash prizes. Will be curious to see how many total players enter this year. Wouldn't the weekly prizes be watered down now when it's free for all?
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astro61200
SBR MVP
09-15-07
4843
#88
Originally posted by pavyracer
Non-pros can play and can win cash prizes. Will be curious to see how many total players enter this year. Wouldn't the weekly prizes be watered down now when it's free for all?
Nonpros could play until week 8 or 9 before. I doubt many of them even realized that they weren't eligible for cash prizes when they signed up. Also I'm sure they assumed if they did well they'd go pro to cash in.
I really don't expect too many more people to join that year's past.
What I don't like about non-pros is the fact that there will probably be a lot of multiple entries. There are a ton of apps that give you a legitimate phone number to get around the verification.
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a4u2fear
SBR Hall of Famer
01-29-10
8147
#89
Thanks SBR, but I'm worried. I've been getting a ton of texts with touts asking for money, I believe only one website has my number, and that's SBr
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SBR Forum
Administrator
12-02-06
4558
#90
Originally posted by a4u2fear
Thanks SBR, but I'm worried. I've been getting a ton of texts with touts asking for money, I believe only one website has my number, and that's SBr
Phone verification helps keep the contest registration simple and the playing field as legitimate as possible. For SBR Store purposes, it is required as a call-back reference for delivery issues and is required by most merchants. Your phone number is never shared with third parties and serves no other purpose.
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SBR Forum
Administrator
12-02-06
4558
#91
Originally posted by BughouseMasters
Thank you - but whats this I read about the picks that the prick picks will be removed right away meaning we cant pick those same games he did??? What's up with that?
Correct. If the Prick selects NY Giants -2, the other side is unavailable. If The Prick selects the over 44 on a game, the under is unavailable. This eliminates the strategy of playing the same picks or the opposite as The Prick, and is why he opens each round with his picks before anyone else can put in their weekly plays.
Welcome to SBR and let us know of any more questions, best of luck sir.
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BiTeMe UsAdOj
SBR Hall of Famer
08-18-11
7537
#92
Originally posted by astro61200
What I don't like about non-pros is the fact that there will probably be a lot of multiple entries. There are a ton of apps that give you a legitimate phone number to get around the verification.
This ^^
Originally posted by Ebumdude
Pro status just ensures the legitimacy of the end game like last year.
This ^^
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shaunovery
SBR Posting Legend
11-15-07
18143
#93
Sbr not commenting on non pros joining guess they don't care as long as numbers are up
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SBR Forum
Administrator
12-02-06
4558
#94
Originally posted by shaunovery
Sbr not commenting on non pros joining guess they don't care as long as numbers are up
Opening it up to the public helps grow the community and helps to pay for the contest.
Keep in mind that this is the most marketable contest of the year and remember that you were once a newbie to the forum too. The more successful this contest is the more exclusive Pro benefits there will be like the chance to win the $10,000 WSOP Main Event buy-in that was given away this July, and the larger the contest budget will be year-round.
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astro61200
SBR MVP
09-15-07
4843
#95
Originally posted by SBR Forum
Keep in mind that this is the most marketable contest of the year and remember that you were once a newbie to the forum too. The more successful this contest is the more exclusive Pro benefits there will be like the chance to win the $10,000 WSOP Main Event buy-in that was given away this July, and the larger the contest budget will be year-round.
The entire reason I went pro years ago was to get some of the winnings for BTP. The reason I renewed a couple years ago was for the same reason. Without the need to be pro to win cash, I don't really see any non-pros going pro.
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hankcream
SBR MVP
06-30-10
2048
#96
I had Pro status for 3 years, but since this is a gambling forum & being a Pro has nothing to do with gambling what the F*#& is the point of having Pro status unless you aren't from the US? I don't feel like donating money to a charity that has over 30% of it's revenue going to admin costs. Nice work on this contest SBR
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BiTeMe UsAdOj
SBR Hall of Famer
08-18-11
7537
#97
SBR's contest... they have the right to run it anyway they see fit and in any fashion they deem to be in their best interest. (obviously)
Everyone on the customer side of things has the right to interpret what that means for them, individually, and whether or not remaining/turning PRO still holds value for them. (obviously)
Personally, I think it's still a great contest (and TY to SBR)... but, as others have stated/alluded to, the opportunity for FRAUD (via multiple accounts) seems like easy pickings for those so inclined to scam the contest.
But, as Bruce Hornsby once astutely told us: "That's just the way it is..."
GL to everyone 'cept the Hillbilly and the multi-account scammers......
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TheMoneyShot
BARRELED IN @ SBR!
02-14-07
28672
#98
Originally posted by astro61200
What I don't like about non-pros is the fact that there will probably be a lot of multiple entries. There are a ton of apps that give you a legitimate phone number to get around the verification.
Originally posted by BiTeMe UsAdOj
This ^^
This ^^
Originally posted by shaunovery
Sbr not commenting on non pros joining guess they don't care as long as numbers are up
Keep in mind that this is the most marketable contest of the year and remember that you were once a newbie to the forum too. The more successful this contest is the more exclusive Pro benefits there will be like the chance to win the $10,000 WSOP Main Event buy-in that was given away this July, and the larger the contest budget will be year-round.
I understand it's a PR move. Build up the site. I get it. This being one of SBR's most prestigious contests. The granddaddy of them all... this leaves this contest vulnerable to a sh#$load of things that could go wrong.
There's going to be a lot of PRO MEMBERS that will bust their ass week end and week out all for a NON PRO to knock them out? And how credible is this NON PRO going to be? 20 handles? 200 handles? Who really knows right?
If 50 + Non Pros CASH mysteriously this year. SBR is going to have a lot of explaining to do. Also, you're going to lose members in 2016. You don't foresee this happening? Writing is already on the wall.
Juice isn't worth the squeeze SBR. Go back to the original format.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82839
#99
What stops someone from buying dozens of disposable cell phones to enter the contest as many times as possible? Then after using them to enter contest he sells them on Craigslist.
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newguy
SBR Hall of Famer
12-27-09
6100
#100
Nice contest. Interesting strategy with the pro/non-pro. First pros got free extra year and now it isn't necessary for btp. I'm guessing the pro status doesn't mean as much to sbr as it does to its members. Not a knock at all. You guys know the finances of everything.
Wonder what numbers will be like with phone verification. Odds the numbers are sold??
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BiTeMe UsAdOj
SBR Hall of Famer
08-18-11
7537
#101
Originally posted by pavyracer
What stops someone from buying dozens of disposable cell phones to enter the contest as many times as possible? Then after using them to enter contest he sells them on Craigslist.
No need to do that, as it's easy peasy to get a supply of different numbers that will be used for 'verification'.
This is low hanging fruit for the scammers; I'm certain there's a number of scamming peeps that actually got a pretty good chuckle over this when they realized how easy it's going to be.
But, SBR is deeming the sheer numbers of 'unique' () players will make them $ in the marketing/advertisement-charging department.
Make no mistake, tho... in this contest, it's gonna be a whole lotta multi-accounting BDF ghosts all up in here.
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The Giant
SBR Posting Legend
01-21-12
21480
#102
Non-pros should have to pony up for their memberships by, say, week five to be eligible for cash prizes. If they fail to do so, and still land in the money, their prizes should be given a pro membership (assuming it's over $100). The money that they would have won should then be either forwarded to a charity, say Angelman Syndrome, for example, or just transferred ahead to the next event.
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trytrytry
SBR Posting Legend
03-13-06
23650
#103
im thinking SBR is going to to this. these rules stand for now. get lots of numbers, some BUZZ, some new people, for sure lots of fake accounts. but about 8 weeks in they will change the rules for non pros and cut them all out if not a pro by then. they get the numbers, and keep the loyal PROS supper happy in the end. sell the numbers is a nice way to get marketing funds for more SBR PRO contest in the future. so a win win win.
Its a business and not a bad way to play it SBR.
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boeing power
SBR Hall of Famer
03-23-10
9698
#104
Non pros should have to also send a copy of government ID by week 8.
At least make the scammers have to work for it.
As it right now, it's just too easy.
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pavyracer
SBR Aristocracy
04-12-07
82839
#105
We will find out after Week 1. If there are 10,000 "unique" players and 7,500 beat the prick and each one wins 20 points..lol