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  • eidolon
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    • 01-02-08
    • 9547

    #36
    Originally posted by homie1975
    They don't let then play d in the nba these days plus Mike conley was clearly not the same wearing that mask and their great defender tony allen missed a few games
    I disagree. The league has gotten a lot more physical the last few years compared to the 10 before that.
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    • pavyracer
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      • 04-12-07
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      #37
      Warriors - Hawks will be the highest rated final since Bulls won it 1996. You have two teams that no one predicted will do anything this year. That's why all the NBA experts hate it. They don't like being wrong.
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      • homie1975
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        • 12-24-13
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        #38
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        Warriors - Hawks will be the highest rated final since Bulls won it 1996. You have two teams that no one predicted will do anything this year. That's why all the NBA experts hate it. They don't like being wrong.
        Golden state was picked by most media and fans to finish top 2 or 3 in the west this yr. They're no surprise. Hawks wouldn't do anywhere near the ratings the cabs would and its because of #23
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        • JoJo5473
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          • 02-02-09
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          #39
          In the east cavs are banged up and shorthanded, it is unlikely that they will knock out the hawks in a 7 games series without homecourt advantage. In the west warriors have better record against both the rockets and clippers, and home court advantage, they are most likely to advance to the finals. So chances are you are going to see a GSW vs ATL finals, and it's the ultimate showdown of talent basketball agaisnt discipline basketball, you won't be let down.
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          • homie1975
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            • 12-24-13
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            #40
            If cavs win it all I stand by my statement.

            If GS wins it all I retract it. They are fukking good. Damn good
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            • ZetaPsi808
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              • 09-18-08
              • 12119

              #41
              Homie you made some irrational generalizations in this thread that make no sense
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              • jjgold
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                • 07-20-05
                • 388208

                #42
                It's shaping up to be one of the better NBA finals with two different style teams and Golden State on the verge of a one of the better NBA champions in the last 15 years as Curry could be top three most dominant playoff performers of all times
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                • lakerboy
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                  • 04-02-09
                  • 94463

                  #43
                  Originally posted by homie1975
                  If cavs win it all I stand by my statement.

                  If GS wins it all I retract it. They are fukking good. Damn good
                  So wait if the cavs win by beating the damn good warriors you will stand still.
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                  • homie1975
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                    • 12-24-13
                    • 15289

                    #44
                    Better team doesn't always win best of 7 series but 98% of time they do.

                    2013 heat shouldve lost to spurs. Spurs were better. Just because cavs might win doesn't mean they're better

                    21-61
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                    • Spoiler
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-20-13
                      • 1193

                      #45
                      Just another way to cut into lebrons success of they win. Assuming OP is a lebron hater. I can think of a bunch of bad champs inclusing houston teams that won only because jordan was gone
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                      • homie1975
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                        • 12-24-13
                        • 15289

                        #46
                        Originally posted by Spoiler
                        Just another way to cut into lebrons success of they win. Assuming OP is a lebron hater. I can think of a bunch of bad champs inclusing houston teams that won only because jordan was gone
                        I absolutely love lebron. If they beat GS it will be due to injury or some other type of luck. The cavs are not a great team. Lebron is carrying them
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                        • jtoler
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                          • 12-17-13
                          • 30982

                          #47
                          If GS wins they are good, if Cleveland wins they arnt, makes no sense.
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                          • homie1975
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                            • 12-24-13
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by jtoler
                            If GS wins they are good, if Cleveland wins they arnt, makes no sense.
                            GS dominant. Cavs beating horrific east. Since best team doesn't win 100% of time we have to wait and see. GS could get an injury.

                            Toler nice call on clips over hou
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                            • jtoler
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                              • 12-17-13
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by homie1975
                              GS dominant. Cavs beating horrific east. Since best team doesn't win 100% of time we have to wait and see. GS could get an injury.

                              Toler nice call on clips over hou
                              Best team don't always win because the league is split into two conferences not because of anything you said. If Cavs beat GS over a 7 game series I'm willing to say Cleveland is better.
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                              • homie1975
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                                • 12-24-13
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by jtoler
                                Best team don't always win because the league is split into two conferences not because of anything you said. If Cavs beat GS over a 7 game series I'm willing to say Cleveland is better.
                                Does anyone honestly believe hou is better than the clips? No they caught lightning in a bottle 4th qtr of gm 6. That's it.

                                2013 spurs were better than the heat. Heat caught lightning gm 5 or 6 and ray allen hit the 3.

                                I'll take it to my grave that spurs were better that year.

                                If cavs win it'll be lucky. They are not that good
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                                • homie1975
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                                  • 12-24-13
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                                  #51
                                  So injuries or lucky buzzer beaters have nothing to do with helping weaker team beat better team in a best of 7? Really man. You're arguing w 30 yrs of sports watching here
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                                  • jtoler
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                                    • 12-17-13
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                    So injuries or lucky buzzer beaters have nothing to do with helping weaker team beat better team in a best of 7? Really man. You're arguing w 30 yrs of sports watching here
                                    Lol Cavs are the one banged up and you're saying if they win they arnt better. Obviously they would be.
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                                    • homie1975
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                                      • 12-24-13
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                                      #53
                                      Banged up cavs steamrolled bulls and hawks. Weak east. Answer the question was 2013 heat better than spurs? Was 2015 hou better than clips?
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                                      • jtoler
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by homie1975
                                        Banged up cavs steamrolled bulls and hawks. Weak east. Answer the question was 2013 heat better than spurs? Was 2015 hou better than clips?
                                        Define better. It's subjective to a point, not just black and white. Coaching involved, gameplans and counter gameplans, refereeing, all these things and more matter. Clips don't matter we are talking NBA champs not 2nd round matchups. You can say Houston caught lightning in a bottle, but choking is a facet of the game, its an attribute of a team/players so that's a reflection on how good or not good a team is. Were the 2003 Magic better than the Pistons when they led 3-1 only to lose the next 3 by double digits, I'd say no, but they were one game away from advancing also.
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                                        • ZetaPsi808
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                                          • 09-18-08
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                                          #55
                                          so homie makes excuses for other teams, like if the warriors were to have an injury, yet he ignores the cavs injuries.

                                          cavs have had more significant injuries this year than any of the 16 playoff teams. varejo, love both out for the year. irving injured and banged up too
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                                          • thetrinity
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                                            • 01-25-11
                                            • 22444

                                            #56
                                            i dont know, i do agree to an extent, cavs have a million injuries and are waltzing to the finals

                                            golden state is playing a style that never works and winning for fun against a supposedly great conference
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                                            • homie1975
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                                              • 12-24-13
                                              • 15289

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                              so homie makes excuses for other teams, like if the warriors were to have an injury, yet he ignores the cavs injuries.

                                              cavs have had more significant injuries this year than any of the 16 playoff teams. varejo, love both out for the year. irving injured and banged up too
                                              Hawks played all postseason w/out sefalocia or however the hell u spell his name. He was maybe their best d player. Then carroll hurt. Now Korver hurt. All when it counts the most. Hou missing 2 key backcourt players all postseason. Other teams having issues too bro
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                                              • lakerboy
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                                                • 04-02-09
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                Warriors - Hawks will be the highest rated final since Bulls won it 1996. You have two teams that no one predicted will do anything this year. That's why all the NBA experts hate it. They don't like being wrong.
                                                Lol
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                                                • jjgold
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                                                  • 07-20-05
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                                                  #59
                                                  Golden State the most healthiest let's pay attention to that
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                                                  • jtoler
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                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                    Warriors - Hawks will be the highest rated final since Bulls won it 1996. You have two teams that no one predicted will do anything this year. That's why all the NBA experts hate it. They don't like being wrong.
                                                    What about SBR posters.
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                                                    • smoke a bowl
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                                                      • 02-09-09
                                                      • 2776

                                                      #61
                                                      Homie, you can drivel all the fukking bullshit you want but the bottomline is that Gol St is one of the better teams the NBA has seen in the last 30 years. Just because they shoot a lot of 3s you make the assumption that they live by the 3 when in actuality nothing can be farther from the truth. They are a great team from top to bottom period.
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                                                      • packerd_00
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                                                        • 05-22-13
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by ZetaPsi808
                                                        so homie makes excuses for other teams, like if the warriors were to have an injury, yet he ignores the cavs injuries.

                                                        cavs have had more significant injuries this year than any of the 16 playoff teams. varejo, love both out for the year. irving injured and banged up too
                                                        Varejo is always injured
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                                                        • homie1975
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                                                          • 12-24-13
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                                                          #63
                                                          Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                                          Homie, you can drivel all the fukking bullshit you want but the bottomline is that Gol St is one of the better teams the NBA has seen in the last 30 years. Just because they shoot a lot of 3s you make the assumption that they live by the 3 when in actuality nothing can be farther from the truth. They are a great team from top to bottom period.
                                                          I agree. They must beat cavs though for me to call them one of best champs
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                                                          • jtoler
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                                                            • 12-17-13
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by homie1975
                                                            I agree. They must beat cavs though for me to call them one of best champs
                                                            What are Cavs if they beat GS?
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                                                            • homie1975
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                                                              • 12-24-13
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by jtoler
                                                              What are Cavs if they beat GS?
                                                              Opportunists who got fortunate. Learn the concept that the better team doesn't always win.
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                                                              • homie1975
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                                                                • 12-24-13
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                                                                #66
                                                                If the cavs win No one will call them one of best ever teams. If GS wins they'll be called one of best ever. Why are U having difficulty grasping this simple fact
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                                                                • jtoler
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  I don't think you'll hear media saying they are one of best ever, just more this board and casual fans. You won't hear past players saying it.
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                                                                  • jtoler
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                                                                    • 12-17-13
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                    Opportunists who got fortunate. Learn the concept that the better team doesn't always win.
                                                                    The NBA is the only sport where generally the best team does win it all, again because there are two conferences the two best can cross one another out.
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                                                                    • homie1975
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                                                                      • 12-24-13
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by jtoler
                                                                      I don't think you'll hear media saying they are one of best ever, just more this board and casual fans. You won't hear past players saying it.
                                                                      Incorrect. Last night on the espn nba tonight show they were already discussing a metric to measure a teams dominance in reg and postseason.

                                                                      1. Bulls 1996
                                                                      2. Bulls 1997
                                                                      3. Celtics 1988
                                                                      4. Golden st 2015
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                                                                      • jtoler
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                                                                        • 12-17-13
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by homie1975
                                                                        Incorrect. Last night on the espn nba tonight show they were already discussing a metric to measure a teams dominance in reg and postseason.

                                                                        1. Bulls 1996
                                                                        2. Bulls 1997
                                                                        3. Celtics 1988
                                                                        4. Golden st 2015
                                                                        That's a joke to me considering the rules changes, no Lakers teams? If this was 80's Curry would already be hurt by now, wouldn't be allowed to waltz to a chip like he's doing. Not sure its totally fair to compare teams over different spans and rule changes, I don't know.
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