Would this kind of basket count?

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  • d2bets
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    #1
    Would this kind of basket count?
    Player heaves it high from 3/4 quart at 1 second, then buzzer sounds, then it bounces at the free throw line and bounces up and in the basket.

    Would that count?
  • d2bets
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    #2
    Nobody knows?
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    • TwoWays
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      #3
      As long as it is released befor light going off
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      • TwoWays
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        #4
        But it can't hit the floor. No way.
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        • d2bets
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          #5
          As long as it is released befor light going off

          But it can't hit the floor. No way.

          ......well which is it?
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          • d2bets
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            #6
            Normally the ball could bounce off floor and in for a bucket, just not sure if the buzzer matters here.
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            • existential
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              #7
              i've always wondered this as well, but can't find a clear answer in the rule book
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              • TwoWays
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                #8
                No way. Then wouldn't it be considered goaltending if a guy grabs the ball as it bounces
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                • d2bets
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by TwoWays
                  No way. Then wouldn't it be considered goaltending if a guy grabs the ball as it bounces
                  Actually that was going to be my followup question.

                  But if this happened and it actually went in, does it count?
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                  • existential
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by TwoWays
                    No way. Then wouldn't it be considered goaltending if a guy grabs the ball as it bounces
                    it certainly wouldn't be considered goaltending if touched after it bounced, but that doesn't necessarily mean that if it wasn't touched and then went in, that it wouldn't count.
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                    • d2bets
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by existential
                      it certainly wouldn't be considered goaltending if touched after it bounced, but that doesn't necessarily mean that if it wasn't touched and then went in, that it wouldn't count.
                      If it would count....what about a plyer from the opposing team that comes off the bench after the buzzer but while the ball is in the air to grab the ball after it bounces. Infraction?
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                      • Bigbill365
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                        #12
                        If someone bounces a ball in off the ground it does count BUT it is not a field goal its actually considered a loose ball therefore it wouldnt be goal tending its the same this if a ball bounces of a rim in the air and a player fouls the other its called a loose ball foul.flight of the ball until it becomes deadis what they look for.There is no rule that states that a ball that bounces off the backbored then the ground and then the hoop but they use the "In Flight" as the rule.
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                        • existential
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by d2bets
                          If it would count....what about a plyer from the opposing team that comes off the bench after the buzzer but while the ball is in the air to grab the ball after it bounces. Infraction?
                          if i had to guess, that would almost certainly be an infraction, as that would involve a non-active player touching the ball that would still technically be considered "live".

                          as for the original question, found this which appears to confirm it'd count..

                          Yesterday on TrueHoop we debated the legality of a buzzer-beating shot that leaves the hands of the shooter before the buzzer, but hits the floor after the end of the period, and then bounces in.
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                          • d2bets
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by existential
                            if i had to guess, that would almost certainly be an infraction, as that would involve a non-active player touching the ball that would still technically be considered "live".

                            as for the original question, found this which appears to confirm it'd count..

                            http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/pos...g-from-the-nba
                            Great find.

                            I asked this originally because I saw this happen last week at the end of the Bulls game in Orlando. Gasol got a rebound off a missed FT and heaved it high toward the basket. As it traveled I was wondering to see if it might bounce up but it never had a chance because a guy from Orlando's bench came on the floor to celebrate and grabbed it right after the bounce. No one said a word.
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                            • existential
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                              #15
                              here's a full-court bouncer that went in, but was not a true buzzer beater.. there were still a few seconds left on the clock after it went in.

                              <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VQGEOaA3JIs?vq=hd1080&autoplay=0" allowfullscreen="" frameborder="0" height="315" width="420"></iframe>


                              according to an article about this, had the buzzer already sounded before the ball bounced, her shot would not have counted. but is Rant Sports right about that? maybe. but then what about that NBA source from TrueHoop?

                              So how was it ruled? The shot counted. It was actually lucky for Olson that she released the ball a little sooner than she needed to. If the buzzer had gone off before the ball bounced on the floor, then the basket would not have counted.

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                              • Chi_archie
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                                #16
                                Does it count as a 3 or a two ?
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                                • d2bets
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                                  #17
                                  If the buzzer had gone off before the ball bounced on the floor, then the basket would not have counted.

                                  Ohhhhhh, now that's interesting. That changes things.
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                                  • existential
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                                    #18
                                    According to the National Federation of State High School Associations, the shot counts for only two points; even though Olson shot it from well-beyond the three-point line, the eventual bounce at the other end of the court established it officially as a shot inside the arc.

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                                    • existential
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                      Ohhhhhh, now that's interesting. That changes things.
                                      Not necessarily. Keep in mind that was girls high school with their own league rules. Whereas we saw how the NBA responded to TrueHoop about the same scenario.

                                      Though I'd love to see an NBA Finals game be decided this way and cause chaos
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