Throwing on 2nd down WAS the correct move.

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  • Rich Boy
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    • 02-01-09
    • 9714

    #1
    Throwing on 2nd down WAS the correct move.
    Sea had 1 timeout left on 2nd down. If they run and dont score then they have to burn it.
    That forces their hand on 3rd down where they HAVE to throw given there was 26 seconds left (Prob 18-20 secs after the play)

    Throwing on 2nd down was the correct call, then run on 3rd down with 1 TO left and run on 4th down and hope to score

    Fkn idiots on this forum dont understand situational football.
  • sneakerhead
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    • 07-14-10
    • 7727

    #2
    They were showing on tv that Lynch got stuffed 5/6 times at the 1 yard line during the season and scored a touchdown one out of six tries from the one.
    I mean it sorta made sense based on the stats and the time left on the clock even though he is one of the best backs in the game
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    • DOM_Toretto
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      • 01-28-13
      • 9035

      #3
      Even if you somehow convince us throwing it was a smart move, it should've been a fade to the corner or back of the endzone, where either the receiver catches it or its out of bounds. NEVER a middle slant rout or whatever you call that play they did.
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      • innovation
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        • 01-27-12
        • 6218

        #4
        or at least line up in a power formation

        roll Wilson out let him decide if it's his feet or arm

        they allowed pats to sub in and still ran a questionable pass play

        pats would have protected the rush from a power formation leaving the edge exposed
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        • boomer62
          SBR MVP
          • 09-10-11
          • 1500

          #5
          Originally posted by Rich Boy
          Sea had 1 timeout left on 2nd down. If they run and dont score then they have to burn it.
          That forces their hand on 3rd down where they HAVE to throw given there was 26 seconds left (Prob 18-20 secs after the play)

          Throwing on 2nd down was the correct call, then run on 3rd down with 1 TO left and run on 4th down and hope to score

          Fkn idiots on this forum dont understand situational football.
          Hey FUKING idiot, how did that work out for you?? NE wasn't stopping Lynch on the goal line. Did you see how dejected the Pats sideline was. They gave the game to them.
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          • NardVa
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            • 10-02-07
            • 8325

            #6
            Pass play wasn't a bad call but I think the pass play should have been a safe pass play. Fade route to the corner. Throwing a slant in a tight area is dangerous. I thought Wilson should have thrown the ball more behind the WR than in front.
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            • Mr KLC
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              • 12-19-07
              • 31100

              #7
              Originally posted by innovation
              or at least line up in a power formation

              roll Wilson out let him decide if it's his feet or arm

              they allowed pats to sub in and still ran a questionable pass play

              pats would have protected the rush from a power formation leaving the edge exposed
              This. I would have rolled Wilson out, and let him decide to run, pass, or throw it away.
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                • 01-02-12
                • 19736

                #8
                yes it would've been an okay move if the pass play was play action or read option, not some slant to a nobody...
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                • The Kraken
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                  • 12-25-11
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                  #9
                  Always one contrarian
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                  • pattymayo
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                    • 05-19-09
                    • 10221

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                    Even if you somehow convince us throwing it was a smart move, it should've been a fade to the corner or back of the endzone, where either the receiver catches it or its out of bounds. NEVER a middle slant rout or whatever you call that play they did.
                    exactly. Line up in a power formation with tight ends and shit, fake the hand off and bam you have a TE wide open in the corner of the endzone. That shit ALWAYS works. And if the TE is covered? Throw that shit into the seats.

                    No reason for a middle of the field slant pass there.
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                    • jaytee20
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 11-02-09
                      • 140

                      #11
                      If they failed on second down, they could spike on third down. Then push the line on fourth. But the slant was terrible.
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                      • d2bets
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                        • 08-10-05
                        • 39847

                        #12
                        Oh good god not this argument again.

                        And by the way, it's not just throw vs. no throw. It's the throw that they made.

                        The best call would have been fake handoff with Wilson bootlegging out -- he quite possibly would have been able to walk into the endzone, but he can have the option to throw it away if it's covered.

                        Another throw could have been a corner endzone fade to one of the big receivers. Not nearly as risky.

                        The situational football here was that the #1 priority on 2nd and goal inside the 1 is not to turn it over. An inside slant is risky. Even on a good throw the ball can bounce off the receiver.

                        I would love to be the one to disagree with mass opinion. I love doing that. But mass opinion is right here. The play call was so very wrong.
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                        • d2bets
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                          • 08-10-05
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by jaytee20
                          If they failed on second down, they could spike on third down. Then push the line on fourth. But the slant was terrible.
                          Hell no. No reason to spike. That's crazy.

                          They ran the play with 25 seconds and a run inside the 1 only takes a few seconds. They could have easily lined up and gotten off another run in at around 8-12 seconds and then if that doesn't make it call the TO for 1 last play on 4th down.

                          No way you spike it and give up a down like that. No.
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                          • d2bets
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                            • 08-10-05
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                            yes it would've been an okay move if the pass play was play action or read option, not some slant to a nobody...
                            Exactly. Let Wilson roll with option to run in or throw it away if no one is wide open.
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                            • sneakerhead
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 07-14-10
                              • 7727

                              #15
                              Originally posted by d2bets
                              Hell no. No reason to spike. That's crazy.

                              They ran the play with 25 seconds and a run inside the 1 only takes a few seconds. They could have easily lined up and gotten off another run in at around 8-12 seconds and then if that doesn't make it call the TO for 1 last play on 4th down.

                              No way you spike it and give up a down like that. No.
                              Agreed, no reason to spike with the timeout left.

                              Everyone is forgetting Petey made some questionable calls. The TD to close out 1h with no timeouts, they got a TD so no one is talking about it but every other coach would have kicked the ball in that situation but at that time, it worked out for them.
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                              • BigDofBA
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                                • 09-30-09
                                • 19313

                                #16
                                It was a great call.

                                I had the Patriots.

                                Best call of all time!
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                                • Big Bear
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 11-01-11
                                  • 43253

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DOM_Toretto
                                  Even if you somehow convince us throwing it was a smart move, it should've been a fade to the corner or back of the endzone, where either the receiver catches it or its out of bounds. NEVER a middle slant rout or whatever you call that play they did.
                                  exactly.
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                                  • d2bets
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                                    • 08-10-05
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by sneakerhead
                                    Agreed, no reason to spike with the timeout left.

                                    Everyone is forgetting Petey made some questionable calls. The TD to close out 1h with no timeouts, they got a TD so no one is talking about it but every other coach would have kicked the ball in that situation but at that time, it worked out for them.
                                    I can see that one. They knew how long that route would take. Even if he had not caught it you could see there would have been 2 or at least 1 second left. Not saying it wasn't a bit risky, but I could see that one.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 66133

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by boomer62
                                      NE wasn't stopping Lynch on the goal line.
                                      And you are Nostradamus? You don't know this.

                                      Get over it, overrated Seahawks lost.
                                      Seattle was lucky to get by Green Bay to begin with.

                                      Deal with it.
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                                      • stevenash
                                        Moderator
                                        • 01-17-11
                                        • 66133

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                        It was a great call.

                                        I had the Patriots.

                                        Best call of all time!
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                                        • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                          • 01-02-12
                                          • 19736

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                          And you are Nostradamus? You don't know this.

                                          Get over it, overrated Seahawks lost.
                                          Seattle was lucky to get by Green Bay to begin with.

                                          Deal with it.
                                          you're saying seattle wasn't gonna score if they ran 3 times? gtfoh
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                                          • BigDofBA
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                                            • 09-30-09
                                            • 19313

                                            #22
                                            When you throw to a sorry ass receiver like Lockette, that's the result you gone get!
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                                            • THam12
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                                              • 03-12-13
                                              • 12640

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jaytee20
                                              If they failed on second down, they could spike on third down. Then push the line on fourth. But the slant was terrible.
                                              Spike It on 3rd??? Thats the dumbest thing ive ever heard.
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                                              • Big Bear
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                                                • 11-01-11
                                                • 43253

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                And you are Nostradamus? You don't know this.

                                                Get over it, overrated Seahawks lost.
                                                Seattle was lucky to get by Green Bay to begin with.

                                                Deal with it.
                                                you are right about dealing with it and getting over it.

                                                The game is over. None of us can change what happened. Sure the Seahawks should have won but they didnt.

                                                But there is no reason to dwell on something in the past that we could not control.

                                                It hurts today for sure. But we must have a short memory in this business.

                                                The one thing all of us have in common

                                                "we are only as good as our NEXT play"
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                                                • sneakerhead
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 07-14-10
                                                  • 7727

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                  you're saying seattle wasn't gonna score if they ran 3 times? gtfoh
                                                  well they were stuffed 5/6 times this season from the 1yd line.
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 66133

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                    you're saying seattle wasn't gonna score if they ran 3 times? gtfoh
                                                    I'm saying you don't know.
                                                    Did you fail reading comprehension?
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                                                    • BigDofBA
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                                                      • 09-30-09
                                                      • 19313

                                                      #27
                                                      Seattle was lucky to even be in that position. The right team won, Right team being the team full of all-american boys. Wrong team being thug life players and douche Pete Carroll.

                                                      Gronk beating asses of he entire Seahawk front 7 at the end of the game was cool too.

                                                      Brady is the GOAT. Patriots!

                                                      Sherman was shown on TV holding up a 2 and 4 talking shit. He shut up quick.
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                                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 19736

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        I'm saying you don't know.
                                                        Did you fail reading comprehension?
                                                        what if i did? what are you gonna do about it?
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                                                        • MoneyLineDawg
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 01-01-09
                                                          • 13253

                                                          #29
                                                          Pound Lynch 4 fukkin times.....If they can stop you, tip your cap....but I doubt it

                                                          A throw across the middle in that congested area is the last thing you wanna do....too much bad shit can happen

                                                          Unfukkinreal
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                                                          • nyplayer33
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                                                            • 09-27-06
                                                            • 8314

                                                            #30
                                                            If they score a td, we r aLREADY SAYING THEY ARE A dynasty..chill out with the worst call ever bs
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 66133

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by BigDofBA
                                                              Seattle was lucky to even be in that position. The right team won, Right team being the team full of all-american boys. Wrong team being thug life players and douche Pete Carroll.

                                                              Gronk beating asses of he entire Seahawk front 7 at the end of the game was cool too.

                                                              Brady is the GOAT. Patriots!

                                                              Sherman was shown on TV holding up a 2 and 4 talking shit. He shut up quick.
                                                              And now the PoS needs TJ surgery, karma is a bitch.
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                                                              • boomer62
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 09-10-11
                                                                • 1500

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                And you are Nostradamus? You don't know this.

                                                                Get over it, overrated Seahawks lost.
                                                                Seattle was lucky to get by Green Bay to begin with.

                                                                Deal with it.
                                                                Hey cocky bitch, I had NE and the over. No big deal to me,game was a coin flip, made my money early in the playoffs and SB was just another game. AND Seattle is not over rated and should have won .Your defensiveness of the Pats and your mindlessness surprise me. Thought you were more intelligent, but find you arrogant who has to always be right and prove your point. That's why you are a numbers guy, fits your personality.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 66133

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by boomer62
                                                                  Hey cocky bitch, I had NE and the over. No big deal to me,game was a coin flip, made my money early in the playoffs and SB was just another game. AND Seattle is not over rated and should have won .Your defensiveness of the Pats and your mindlessness surprise me. Thought you were more intelligent, but find you arrogant who has to always be right and prove your point. That's why you are a numbers guy, fits your personality.
                                                                  Uh-oh, looks like I hit a nerve.

                                                                  Need a hug slick?

                                                                  Seattle never should have been there in the first place slick.
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                                                                  • BigDofBA
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 09-30-09
                                                                    • 19313

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                    Uh-oh, looks like I hit a nerve.

                                                                    Need a hug slick?

                                                                    Seattle never should have been there in the first place slick.
                                                                    Seattle was a one hit wonder.

                                                                    Brady picked apart their defense in crunch time to the tune of 14 points with the game on the line in the final 9 minutes.

                                                                    LOB? Lmao. LOB couldn't stop a bunch of short white guys, Gronk, and Brady.

                                                                    Patriots greatest dynasty ever.

                                                                    Rain City Bitch Pigeons one hit wonder.
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                                                                    • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 01-02-12
                                                                      • 19736

                                                                      #35
                                                                      they shouldn't have been there in the first place, they are over-rated but they should've won if it weren't for dumb play calling.

                                                                      so what does that say about the pats? and if you really believe the hawks were over-rated why didn't you go all-in on the pats instead of going under and losing?

                                                                      gtfoh with your nonsense.
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