most overrated manager/coach of all time in all sports

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  • slayer14
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    • 08-12-13
    • 22022

    #36
    sven goren errikson another
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    • Harry N. Lloyd
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      • 03-26-08
      • 4810

      #37
      Originally posted by pavyracer
      Bill Belichek..hasn't won anything since he got caught cheating.
      Belichek's winning percentage has actually gone up since Spygate (wins over 75% of his games). Granted he hasn't won any Super Bowls, but that's not the easiest thing in the world to accomplish. No team in the last 10 years has repeated. The Patriots lost twice to Eli since then, both times by "acts of God" (see Tyree catch). It's lazy to include him on the list in this thread. The guy has won a ridiculous amount of football games with questionable talent/waiver wire starters/practice squad nobodies. He is without question a phenomenal football coach, a certain hall-of-famer, and probably the greatest of all time. There is not one person in the NFL world who would use the word overrated when describing Bill B.
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      • GUMMO77
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        • 08-23-10
        • 9294

        #38
        Jon Gruden
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        • eidolon
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          • 01-02-08
          • 9531

          #39
          At first I want to say Phil jackson. But he won 9 championships with 2 two teams in 12 years. That is pretty crazy.
          Out of the 20 years coaching, he went to the finals 13 times, winning 11 of them. Yes he did have great players, but coaching at the professional level isn't like high school or even college. It has more about dealing with people and working together.
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          • Ralphie Halves
            SBR MVP
            • 12-13-09
            • 4507

            #40
            Originally posted by chico2663
            first of all it was it was tex winter (i think) offense. How did he do when jordan was suspended? Those 2 championships and that 3rd he got when jordan came back were great. What? He didn't win those! What did I miss.Pippen and jordan are rated top 50 all time. Shaq and kobe are rated top 50 all time. Kobe and gasol top 50. He won't do shit since tex is dead and he doesn't have 2 hof on roster! J.J. could of won 11 rings with the rosters he had.
            I never said Jackson created the offense. Just perfected it.

            Doug Collins had MJ and Pippen too. Del Harris had Kobe, Shaq, DFish and Rodman. That's a former Coach of the Year and a guy who still gets hired to coach today. Neither one of them won anything with those teams. So there goes that argument.

            Jackson went to teams that already had talent but couldn't win championships and turned them into dynasties. Under some people's definition, unless you purposely go to a horrible team and make them legendary, you're "overrated". So if Steve Kerr turns Golden State into a dynasty someday, it's not that impressive since he didn't choose to try and do it with the Orlando Magic? Got it.

            I love how people make up these alternate scenarios and act like they know what the outcome would be. You have no idea what would have happened if Phil would have coached elsewhere. You can only avoid facts for so long.
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            • Deuce
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              • 01-12-08
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              #41
              Scotty Bowman? Guy has won everywhere he has went. Dead wings to world champs. FOH
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              • lakerboy
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                • 04-02-09
                • 94379

                #42
                Originally posted by Deuce
                Scotty Bowman? Guy has won everywhere he has went. Dead wings to world champs. FOH
                Okay deuce. Bowman had 50 hall of famers in montreal/pit and det.
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                • darrell74
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                  • 04-16-07
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                  #43
                  Lane Kiffin
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                  • GunShard
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                    • 03-05-10
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                    The Broncos should replace John Fox with Mike Shanahan.
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                    • Brock Landers
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                      • 06-30-08
                      • 45359

                      #45
                      Originally posted by t-wizzle
                      Mike Krzyzewski
                      This

                      How hard is it to win when you get the best players year after year.
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                      • red12sox
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                        • 11-28-14
                        • 1034

                        #46
                        Marvin lewis. Should have been fired years ago.
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                        • GunShard
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                          • 03-05-10
                          • 10031

                          #47
                          Originally posted by GunShard
                          The Broncos should replace John Fox with Mike Shanahan.
                          The Broncos would win the super bowl if this happened.
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                          • DrunkHorseplayer
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                            • 05-15-10
                            • 7719

                            #48
                            Very close between Jackson, Auerbach and Riley; all three of them are run-of-the-mill.
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                            • Ralphie Halves
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                              • 12-13-09
                              • 4507

                              #49
                              Originally posted by Brock Landers
                              This

                              How hard is it to win when you get the best players year after year.
                              Yeah, he doesn't have to recruit them or anything, they just walk through the door.
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                              • stevegreazy
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                                • 12-14-14
                                • 335

                                #50
                                Bill belichik(sp?)

                                After he got caught cheating he hasn't done anything in the post season
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                                • SEAHAWKHARRY
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                                  • 11-29-07
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by tony_come
                                  Pete carol
                                  Your nOT serious
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                                  • Big Bear
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                                    • 11-01-11
                                    • 43253

                                    #52
                                    Jack Leggett Clemson baseball coach

                                    also Bobby Cox Atlanta Braves manager

                                    for as much talent as he had to work with he should have won 5 world series rings
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                                    • GunShard
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                                      • 03-05-10
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                                      #53
                                      Rex Ryan.
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                                      • lakerboy
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                                        • 04-02-09
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by SEAHAWKHARRY
                                        Your nOT serious
                                        His whole resume was made by Russell wilson.
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                                        • Big Bear
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                                          • 11-01-11
                                          • 43253

                                          #55
                                          Bobby Cox for sure.

                                          There is a reason people use that analogy that "Peyton Manning is the NFL's version of the Atlanta Braves".
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                                          • KaWayDuh
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                                            • 12-27-14
                                            • 137

                                            #56
                                            Erik Spoelstra
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                                            • seaborneq
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                                              • 09-08-06
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                                              #57
                                              Did anyone mention big game Boob Stoops?
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                                              • 70'sMan
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                                                • 02-12-12
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                                                #58
                                                Marv Levy
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                                                • stevegreazy
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                                                  • 12-14-14
                                                  • 335

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by stevegreazy
                                                  Bill belichik(sp?)

                                                  After he got caught cheating he hasn't done anything in the post season
                                                  I stand by this
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                                                  • Roadtrip635
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                                                    • 12-07-10
                                                    • 6129

                                                    #60
                                                    Tony Dungy is so overrated. He's the Trent Dilfer of Super Bowl winning coaches.
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                                                    • No coincidences
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                                                      • 01-18-10
                                                      • 76300

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by Brock Landers
                                                      This

                                                      How hard is it to win when you get the best players year after year.
                                                      Missed this gem.

                                                      I'm no fan of Coach K, but good god. If Brock were any dumber, he'd require fertilizer.
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                                                      • SharkAA
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-10-13
                                                        • 2005

                                                        #62
                                                        Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola, Erik Spoelstra, Sean Payton.
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                                                        • High3rEl3m3nt
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                                                          • 09-28-10
                                                          • 8022

                                                          #63
                                                          Erik Spoelstra would seem like a good candidate, but I don't think he receives enough credit to be
                                                          considered one of the most overrated coaches. For example, since Bron ditched South Beach, he's
                                                          a nobody. If people were propping him up and absolutely shocked that the team is not what it once
                                                          was, then I'd agree.

                                                          Maybe Bobby Cox. MLB managers are a bit overrated for the most part. How many
                                                          critical decisions do they make? A basketball coach can have such a huge effect on the game at
                                                          any one point, whereas a baseball manager's impact is minimal compared to coaches in other sports.
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                                                          • gummo
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                                                            • 09-04-06
                                                            • 6297

                                                            #64
                                                            Joe Torre and Phil Jackson.
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                                                            • seaborneq
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                                                              • 09-08-06
                                                              • 22556

                                                              #65
                                                              Mike Ditka, Mike Shanahan, and Doc Rivers
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                                                              • ChiLLx
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                                                                • 12-24-11
                                                                • 5412

                                                                #66
                                                                Umm cmon guys, Nick Saban!
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                                                                • the_situation
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                                                                  • 10-22-10
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by stevegreazy
                                                                  I stand by this
                                                                  Further proving you don't know anything
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                                                                  • The Kraken
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                                                                    • 12-25-11
                                                                    • 28918

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Don King

                                                                    Fukk never did a thing

                                                                    Except scam his fighters out of over a $100 million
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                                                                    • KalouKalou
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                                                                      • 01-14-11
                                                                      • 1848

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by SharkAA
                                                                      Jose Mourinho, Pep Guardiola, Erik Spoelstra, Sean Payton.

                                                                      Mourinho???? lol you can't be serious, maybe you're new watching soccer.
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                                                                      • muldoon
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                                                                        • 01-04-10
                                                                        • 4397

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Lane Kiffin
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