most overrated manager/coach of all time in all sports

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  • nyplayer33
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    • 09-27-06
    • 8303

    #71
    bill parcels
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    • tony_come
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 03-31-10
      • 21695

      #72
      Pete Carroll
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      • tony_come
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 03-31-10
        • 21695

        #73
        Nick Saban
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        • homie1975
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 12-24-13
          • 15452

          #74
          sorry for repeat if someone already said it but my pick is RED AUERBACH

          the guy had by far i mean by far the most talented teams and the nba was only 8 teams i think. so those championships were stacked in his favor by a longshot
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          • SharkAA
            SBR MVP
            • 11-10-13
            • 2005

            #75
            Originally posted by KalouKalou
            Mourinho???? lol you can't be serious, maybe you're new watching soccer.
            Right...has he won any CL trophies after he won with Inter? He was in Real for 3 years, but never managed to win CL. Now he's in Chelsea and I don't expect him to win either. He has been one of the best in the business for years, but his time is up.
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            • Seto
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-16-11
              • 12906

              #76
              Originally posted by SharkAA
              Right...has he won any CL trophies after he won with Inter? He was in Real for 3 years, but never managed to win CL. Now he's in Chelsea and I don't expect him to win either. He has been one of the best in the business for years, but his time is up.
              Winning the UCL makes you a good/bad coach? There is a huge luck factor in winning that competition.

              If he doesn't win the Premier League this year it has to be considered underachieving though yes. Not gonna happen though
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              • SharkAA
                SBR MVP
                • 11-10-13
                • 2005

                #77
                Originally posted by Seto
                Winning the UCL makes you a good/bad coach? There is a huge luck factor in winning that competition.

                If he doesn't win the Premier League this year it has to be considered underachieving though yes. Not gonna happen though
                Ok, let's put it this way. Real Madrid had pretty good players, when Mourinho took over and he didn't manage to win. CR7 is an elite player, Ozil, X.Alonso, Khedira, Di Maria, Ramos and Casillas are no scrubs and I could go on.
                I understand that he lost to Barcelona with Real Madrid in the 1/2 finals, but then the next season, he lost to Bayern after penalties and the next season to Borussia. I am not saying Bayern and Borussia were bad, but if 'The Special One' is so 'special', how does he manage to lose in 1/2 finals 3 years in a row? Like I said, I wouldn't say, that he's overrated years ago, but now I am 100% positive that's the case.
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                • lakerboy
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-02-09
                  • 94379

                  #78
                  Mourinho was good at inter. Everywhere else it's just about buying the best players.
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                  • meader99
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-30-10
                    • 4223

                    #79
                    Originally posted by Harry N. Lloyd
                    Belichek's winning percentage has actually gone up since Spygate (wins over 75% of his games). Granted he hasn't won any Super Bowls, but that's not the easiest thing in the world to accomplish. No team in the last 10 years has repeated. The Patriots lost twice to Eli since then, both times by "acts of God" (see Tyree catch). It's lazy to include him on the list in this thread. The guy has won a ridiculous amount of football games with questionable talent/waiver wire starters/practice squad nobodies. He is without question a phenomenal football coach, a certain hall-of-famer, and probably the greatest of all time. There is not one person in the NFL world who would use the word overrated when describing Bill B.
                    Cleveland fans might.
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                    • meader99
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-30-10
                      • 4223

                      #80
                      Originally posted by Ralphie Halves
                      I never said Jackson created the offense. Just perfected it.

                      Doug Collins had MJ and Pippen too. Del Harris had Kobe, Shaq, DFish and Rodman. That's a former Coach of the Year and a guy who still gets hired to coach today. Neither one of them won anything with those teams. So there goes that argument.

                      Jackson went to teams that already had talent but couldn't win championships and turned them into dynasties. Under some people's definition, unless you purposely go to a horrible team and make them legendary, you're "overrated". So if Steve Kerr turns Golden State into a dynasty someday, it's not that impressive since he didn't choose to try and do it with the Orlando Magic? Got it.

                      I love how people make up these alternate scenarios and act like they know what the outcome would be. You have no idea what would have happened if Phil would have coached elsewhere. You can only avoid facts for so long.
                      I don't believe Phil Is overrated, but the Bulls were in the ecf the year before his arrival. Doug Collins would have won had he not been fired. Would he have won as many? Who knows.... those who ask what Phil did without mj? Qwl he was a horse shit call away from going back to the finals without mj.
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                      • The Kraken
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-25-11
                        • 28918

                        #81
                        It's impossible to separate coaches and players

                        All great teams had great players and a great coach

                        Both make the other better but that does not diminish in the least eithers legacy

                        Some guy says "Oh, Phil Jackson was overrated because he had Jordan, Shaq and Kobe" and the next guy says "Oh, Jordan, Shaq and Kobe are overrated because they had Phil Jackson"

                        It is also a bit comical that some fairweather fans try and create a rational argument why a guy like Phil Jackson is overrated. Cracks me the fukk up. Like anyone on here has the understanding to say any pro coach is overrated. We're a bunch of fans and degens that don't know the first thing about being a pro coach nor what it takes to make it.

                        Everyone can have their opinion of course but please understand that it truly is based on ignorance.
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                        • homie1975
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 12-24-13
                          • 15452

                          #82
                          Phil won 55 or 57 games and went to second round of playoffs without mj. All he had was pippen and a bunch of second tier players.

                          phil is a great great coach
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                          • sneakerhead
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 07-14-10
                            • 7727

                            #83
                            Originally posted by meader99
                            Cleveland fans might.
                            Cleveland fans, who gives a fuk about cleveland fans

                            Who would really wanna coach in cleveland
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                            • GunShard
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-05-10
                              • 10031

                              #84
                              Originally posted by tony_come
                              Pete Carroll
                              That is well predicted before Pete Carroll's 2nd and stupid.
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                              • goldengreek
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-25-07
                                • 8340

                                #85
                                Ditka !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                Doc Rivers
                                Bobby Cox
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                                • t-wizzle
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 12-18-09
                                  • 38099

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by goldengreek
                                  Ditka !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

                                  Doc Rivers
                                  Bobby Cox

                                  Not Doc. No way.
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                                  • Killer_Demo
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 06-15-08
                                    • 8409

                                    #87
                                    Hack Brown
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                                    • laclippers504
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-21-06
                                      • 4553

                                      #88
                                      Doc Rivers
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                                      • Slanina
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-21-09
                                        • 3827

                                        #89
                                        Lets all be honest with each other. It's the player(s) that make the coach.
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                                        • sneakerhead
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 07-14-10
                                          • 7727

                                          #90
                                          gotta agree with Nick Saban to an extent
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                                          • Petey Wheatstraw
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-09-12
                                            • 1038

                                            #91
                                            Bill Belicheck and Pete Carroll

                                            Dead Heat
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                                            • Big Bear
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 11-01-11
                                              • 43253

                                              #92
                                              Bobbby Cox easily.

                                              No coach has ever done less with more talent.
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