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  • jjgold
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    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #141
    Looks like his football season is out
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    • floridagolfer
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      • 12-19-08
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      #142
      I'm dyin' to hear the judge explain why sports gambling in New Jersey is so harmful to the leagues but sports gambling in Nevada isn't.
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      • TheGuesser
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        • 08-10-05
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        #143
        Originally posted by floridagolfer
        I'm dyin' to hear the judge explain why sports gambling in New Jersey is so harmful to the leagues but sports gambling in Nevada isn't.
        He can't. But he was extremely well compensated for his ruling.
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        • StackinGreen
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          • 10-09-10
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          #144
          << "More legal gambling leads to more total gambling, which in turns leads to an increased incentive to fix plaintiffs' matches," Shipp said. >>

          Then on what basis could it EVER be lawful or constitutional to let ANY state have it? These guys are human beings with logic and reason? What a fraud.
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          • thespeculator
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            • 09-09-08
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            #145
            Originally posted by jjgold
            Looks like his football season is out
            Like u said , it will never happen
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            • thespeculator
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              • 09-09-08
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              #146
              Originally posted by floridagolfer
              I'm dyin' to hear the judge explain why sports gambling in New Jersey is so harmful to the leagues but sports gambling in Nevada isn't.
              Correct, and the leagues have no problem playing games in London where people can bet in play watching the game
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              • jjgold
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                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #147
                Seems like it was Lame answer from the judge

                We could've came up up better that argument than that
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                • Optional
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                  • 06-10-10
                  • 61835

                  #148
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Seems like it was Lame answer from the judge

                  We could've came up up better that argument than that
                  Like what?

                  There is no real argument.
                  .
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                  • JayZ
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                    • 03-19-12
                    • 184

                    #149
                    Originally posted by thespeculator
                    Correct, and the leagues have no problem playing games in London where people can bet in play watching the game
                    The NFL gets Wembley to close the betting shops inside the stadium though.
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                    • jjgold
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                      • 07-20-05
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                      #150
                      If monmouth started taking wagers and then courts ruled it was illegal every losing bet would have to be refunded if players requested it
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                      • thespeculator
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                        • 09-09-08
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                        #151
                        Originally posted by JayZ
                        The NFL gets Wembley to close the betting shops inside the stadium though.
                        True and there are how many within a 2 minute walk
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                        • jjgold
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                          • 07-20-05
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                          #152
                          this is the last shot for NJ

                          I think they have judge in back pocket meaning sports leagues
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                          • StackinGreen
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                            • 10-09-10
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                            #153
                            Originally posted by StackinGreen
                            << "More legal gambling leads to more total gambling, which in turns leads to an increased incentive to fix plaintiffs' matches," Shipp said. >>

                            Then on what basis could it EVER be lawful or constitutional to let ANY state have it? These guys are human beings with logic and reason? What a fraud.

                            Yes this is my point.
                            Originally posted by thespeculator
                            Correct, and the leagues have no problem playing games in London where people can bet in play watching the game
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                            • JayZ
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                              • 03-19-12
                              • 184

                              #154
                              Originally posted by thespeculator
                              True and there are how many within a 2 minute walk
                              There are around a dozen in the surrounding streets I'd guess.

                              The Sky Sports commentators speculated over pictures of Arthur Blank using his smart phone that he might have been putting a bet on the Falcons ...
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                              • Thor4140
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                                • 02-09-08
                                • 22296

                                #155
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                this is the last shot for NJ

                                I think they have judge in back pocket meaning sports leagues
                                ya think? i have been telling u guys this for years. These leagues own Vegas. They get a hefty cut. NJ can't understand why these leagues need a cut of their action.
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                                • jjgold
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                                  • 07-20-05
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                                  #156
                                  Thor you might be right

                                  I wonder when this all is going to take place in court?
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                                  • recon1
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                                    • 08-13-12
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                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                                    ya think? i have been telling u guys this for years. These leagues own Vegas. They get a hefty cut. NJ can't understand why these leagues need a cut of their action.
                                    Yep, that's it. We always thought this league might be full of crooks, but no more guessing.
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                                    • creed
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                                      • 12-08-09
                                      • 108

                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by recon1
                                      Yep, that's it. We always thought this league might be full of crooks, but no more guessing.
                                      ? And if your itailain your in the mafia . I heard somethings in this forum but this takes the cake. PLEASE MOD set these morons straight
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                                      • jjgold
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                                        • 07-20-05
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                                        #159
                                        If it's a fair trial New Jersey should win

                                        We know it's going to be rigged politically though
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                                        • Thor4140
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                                          • 02-09-08
                                          • 22296

                                          #160
                                          Really happy George Bush senior protected us all when he sign this bill into law to protect these leagues. I wonder how much they had to pay for this horse shit scam.

                                          Controversial U.S. Sports Gambling Law Turns 22 Years Old

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                                          Today marks the twenty-second anniversary of President George H.W. Bush signing into law the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act — the very act cited by a U.S. District Court on Friday to prohibit the State of New Jersey from allowing sports gambling at its Monmouth County racetrack.
                                          The Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act (“PASPA”) was drafted at the behest of America’s five premier sports leagues, which feared that if states legalized sports gambling within their borders, it would hurt leagues’ bottom lines.
                                          League counsel fought hard for this act to both Congress and the media.
                                          In June 1991, NFL vice president and league counsel Jay Moyer told USA Today that he had come to view sports gambling as being ”like a cancer” because he believed it “would diminish the significance of sport.” In that same article, Gary Bettman, who was then the Vice President of the National Basketball Association, stated his belief that “[i]f there [were ever] widespread legal gambling, [the NBA would] be less popular because the environment of the game will change.”
                                          The original version of the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act had proposed to ban sports gambling in all states. But this proposal received strong rebuke from four states that already allowed the practice: Delaware, Montana, Oregon, Nevada. Ultimately, lobbyists for these states persuaded lawmakers to change the proposed bill to include a grandfather clause that allowed for sports gambling to continue where ”such scheme was authorized by a statute as in effect on October 2, 1991; and … was conducted in that State or other governmental entity at any time during the period beginning September 1, 1989, and ending October 2, 1991.”
                                          Nevertheless, this compromise solution did not allow for any additional states to legalize sports gambling after the act went into effect – a move that the State of New Jersey, among potentially others, has come to strongly regret.
                                          To some, the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act is seen to no longer serve its initial purpose, especially as professional sports teams such as the Orlando Magic, Brooklyn Nets and New England Patriots have forged relationships with daily fantasy sports host sites, allowing these teams to profit from certain forms of play-for-cash fantasy sports gaming. Major League Baseball also seems to profit directly nowadays for online sports gaming through a sponsorship arrangement with one of the daily fantasy sports games.
                                          Nonetheless, the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act remains federal law. This means that both private parties and state governments needs to tread carefully when venturing in the realm of hosting sports contests that involve entry fees and prizes for predicting game results correctly.
                                          ___ ___________________________
                                          Marc Edelman is an Associate Professor of Law at the City University of New York’s Baruch College, Zicklin School of Business, where he has published more than 25 law review articles on sports law matters, including “A Short Treatise on Fantasy Sports and the Law.” He also provides legal and business consulting to a fantasy sports businesses. Nothing contained in this article should be construed as legal advice.
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                                          • Thor4140
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                                            • 02-09-08
                                            • 22296

                                            #161

                                            David Payne Purdum @DavidPurdum · 10h 10 hours ago


                                            New Jersey sports betting winnings for September -- $0. Number of casinos closed -- 4. Number of jobs lost -- thousands.

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                                            David Payne Purdum @DavidPurdum · 10h 10 hours ago

                                            Nevada casinos September winnings: Blackjack $78.8M Craps $26.2M Roulette $30.7M Baccarat $82.6M Sports: $44.5M Penny slots: $231.5M
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                                            David Payne Purdum @DavidPurdum · 10h 10 hours ago

                                            Most profitable months by football winnings at Nevada sports books: Sept. 2012 -- $43.49M Jan. 1999 -- $40.27M Sept. 2014 -- $37.27M
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                                            David Payne Purdum @DavidPurdum · 11h 11 hours ago

                                            The $37.27 million won on football by Nevada sports books in Sept. was a 33.41% increase from Sept. 2013.
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                                            David Payne Purdum @DavidPurdum · 11h 11 hours ago

                                            Nevada books won $37.27M on football (NFL/NCAA) in Sept., 3rd best month ever for football, per gaming control.
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                                            • Thor4140
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                                              • 02-09-08
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                                              #162
                                              Anyone know how much of these winnings of Nevada's was funneled back to these leagues?
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                                              • Natty68
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                                                • 05-11-14
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                                                #163
                                                But the parlays in Delaware are somehow less so............ . If they're that worried about corrupting the college kids then make it pro sports only.
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                                                • Thor4140
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                                                  • 02-09-08
                                                  • 22296

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by Natty68
                                                  But the parlays in Delaware are somehow less so............ . If they're that worried about corrupting the college kids then make it pro sports only.
                                                  they aint worried about that. That is the smoke screen they throw out front. They fix games like last night with Romo and get a big cut. NJ doesn't understand this and thinks this shit is all on the up and up and can't figure out why these leagues want to extort money out of them. As soon as NJ pony's up they will be able to take bets. You guys all seen Romo miraculously get healthy and get back in that game? He had to or Weedon might have screwed up the plan and covered for Dallas. Poor Romo had to play hurt to do his part last night.
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