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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388179

    #71
    Nevada does not even care about sportsbetting and can care less if NJ gets it

    Its not even on their radar as far as revenue
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    • darrell74
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-16-07
      • 14648

      #72
      But how is it legal for New Jersey to go over Washington D.C.'s head?
      that part doesn't make sense to me
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      • Trident
        SBR MVP
        • 02-07-09
        • 2362

        #73
        Originally posted by existential
        Nevada has no say about what happens in New Jersey or any other state for that matter
        Any company holding a Nevada Gaming license must get approval before doing business outside of Nevada, if they dont they could get a fine or even lose it's license to operate in Nevada.
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388179

          #74
          I say odds NJ takes bet Sunday are +500 right now

          Lets see how this plays out
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          • daneblazer
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 09-14-08
            • 27861

            #75
            make it legal and make it legal online. Offshores aren't going anywhere but states can take a chunk of change away from offshores if they make it legal
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            • bruceBRUCEbruce
              SBR MVP
              • 06-20-09
              • 2560

              #76
              Originally posted by darrell74
              But how is it legal for New Jersey to go over Washington D.C.'s head?
              that part doesn't make sense to me
              are you familiar with how a handful of states out west have made marijuana legal?
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              • Trident
                SBR MVP
                • 02-07-09
                • 2362

                #77
                Originally posted by bruceBRUCEbruce
                are you familiar with how a handful of states out west have made marijuana legal?
                While it is legal in Washington & Colorado it's still against federal law, feds could come in and charge store owners, suppliers etc if they wanted to but at this time they choose not to. In most all cases federal law trumps state law.
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                • jjgold
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #78
                  I don't think with marijuana their major corporations involve like gambling

                  Places like William Hill have a lot to lose if the feds come after them

                  It's why no sports gaming operators want to come to New Jersey

                  To New Jersey Meadowlands wants nothing to do with this right now
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                  • illini
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 08-07-10
                    • 54

                    #79
                    pulling for New Jersey but everything I have read this morning makes them a pretty big dog to accept bets on Sunday. Just wondering if this is the last shot for them and if they give up after this. If that is the case its going to be a long time before we get state sponsored sports betting.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388179

                      #80
                      I think this is their last shot so they should just go through it and face the consequences

                      It's amazing how hard this is to get past

                      It's why other states aren't even attempting it

                      I hope it passes for the Jersey boys here
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                      • existential
                        SBR MVP
                        • 07-21-14
                        • 2963

                        #81
                        Originally posted by jjgold
                        Nevada does not even care about sportsbetting and can care less if NJ gets it

                        Its not even on their radar as far as revenue
                        Exactly. Why people keep mentioning them as a big player in this is beyond stupid.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #82
                          Vegas is actually gradually going towards cities like Chicago now I New York City as far as entertainment shopping and restaurants

                          Of course the gambling is there but there really branching out
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                          • existential
                            SBR MVP
                            • 07-21-14
                            • 2963

                            #83
                            The injunction hearing starts in 2 hours..
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #84
                              Originally posted by existential
                              The injunction hearing starts in 2 hours..
                              This is a big hearing with major implications
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                              • recon1
                                SBR MVP
                                • 08-13-12
                                • 2579

                                #85
                                Originally posted by jjgold
                                Nevada does not even care about sportsbetting and can care less if NJ gets it

                                Its not even on their radar as far as revenue
                                I would disagree. Vegas and the NFl. NBA, NCAA etc. Have a consolidation of power. If other states legalize sports gaming the consolidation is lost if Vegas and the leagues can't bring in the new states to the consolidation of power then you may have total anarchy with players actually winning.
                                States who pass laws allowing sports gaming should have ironclad provisions that stop outside influence and alliances. Only alliance should be directly to Governors office who upon seeking and winning Governor of said state should take on all responsibility of the gaming industry with strict transparency and laws that would penalize Governors with prison time if any alliance is made without the peoples approval and or knowledge.
                                Now, i need some winners for this week
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                                • existential
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-21-14
                                  • 2963

                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  This is a big hearing with major implications
                                  people have asked Senator Lesniak if there will be a live video feed, would be cool to see it.
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                                  • existential
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 07-21-14
                                    • 2963

                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by klemopixx
                                    True the Feds have no reason to stop this, its more likely the sports leagues that will take legal action to stop sports betting. One of the biggest stipulations being no wagering on events played in the state of NJ.
                                    There's 2 stipulations and they only concern collegiate teams, not Pro's:

                                    1. No betting on any collegiate events involving New Jersey schools (no matter where the event is held).. i.e. no betting on Rutgers, period.

                                    2. No betting on any collegiate events that take place in New Jersey (regardless if they involve a New Jersey collegiate team or not).. i.e. no betting on a Notre Dame vs. Syracuse game held at Met Life Stadium.
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                                    • pattymayo
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-19-09
                                      • 10221

                                      #88
                                      So what's the verdict? Can I head down to Monmouth Park and make some wagers on Sunday?
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388179

                                        #89
                                        They must still be in court
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                                        • temple2010
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 03-16-10
                                          • 1369

                                          #90
                                          The same judge that ruled in favor of the leagues before is the judge again! and they say the judges are picked randomly??? are you faking kidding me?? They are going to screw NJ in the end unfortunately.
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388179

                                            #91
                                            any updates??

                                            unreal with same judge
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                                            • smokenjoke
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 10-16-12
                                              • 8285

                                              #92
                                              The NFL, NCAA and other professional sports leagues have filed a lawsuit Monday in the hopes of preventing New Jersey from allowing sports betting this weekend, according to ESPN's David Purdum.
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                                              • allabout the $$$
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 04-17-10
                                                • 9843

                                                #93
                                                Four professional sports leagues and the NCAA officially filed a motion in federal court in Trenton today asking a judge for a temporary restraining order to halt Monmouth Park from becoming the first venue in New Jersey to take sports bets.


                                                decision will be by the end of the week
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388179

                                                  #94
                                                  Probably going to come down to who's paying who

                                                  Corruption runs rampant in New Jersey
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                                                  • existential
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-21-14
                                                    • 2963

                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by temple2010
                                                    The same judge that ruled in favor of the leagues before is the judge again! and they say the judges are picked randomly??? are you faking kidding me?? They are going to screw NJ in the end unfortunately.
                                                    pretty sick isn't it
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                                                    • jjgold
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                      • 388179

                                                      #96
                                                      I say they put the injunction on until they hear this in court

                                                      I would be shocked if mom park is taking bets on Sunday
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                                                      • sweep
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-09-10
                                                        • 16755

                                                        #97
                                                        Originally posted by temple2010
                                                        The same judge that ruled in favor of the leagues before is the judge again! and they say the judges are picked randomly??? are you faking kidding me?? They are going to screw NJ in the end unfortunately.
                                                        is this true? Cant be.....
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                                                        • StackinGreen
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-09-10
                                                          • 12140

                                                          #98
                                                          My question is, "Who cares what a judge says?" Isn't that ultimately the NJ position? A judge is impotent. He can declare unconstitutional things all day long, but if no one enforces the supposed laws on the books, it doesn't matter.

                                                          How is this any different than marijuana issues currently? Technically, the DOJ could go in an bust every state for marijuana but they've deemed it silly, too much effort, or are just waiting for someone politically to make an example of.
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                                                          • rkelly110
                                                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                            • 10-05-09
                                                            • 39691

                                                            #99
                                                            Goes to show how dumb politicians and govt officials are. They have no idea what the public actually does as far as
                                                            betting on games. From local bookies, pick 'em tickets, football/ baseball squares and between friends. Then you
                                                            have us degenerates betting offshore.

                                                            Their main concern is how do they get a piece of it and how to tax it.
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                                                            • jjgold
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 07-20-05
                                                              • 388179

                                                              #100
                                                              Some think NJ politicians just doing this for elections and can care less if it passes

                                                              Basically pp;political strategy//"we tried"
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                                                              • edawg
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-09-11
                                                                • 2820

                                                                #101
                                                                Couldn't care less! If they could care less it means they care somewhat. Sorry for being dik.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388179

                                                                  #102
                                                                  edawg where you live??

                                                                  Lets go drinking man..we will buy a fukkin keg and get some hookers
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                                                                  • StackinGreen
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 10-09-10
                                                                    • 12140

                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                    Goes to show how dumb politicians and govt officials are. They have no idea what the public actually does as far as
                                                                    betting on games. From local bookies, pick 'em tickets, football/ baseball squares and between friends. Then you
                                                                    have us degenerates betting offshore.

                                                                    Their main concern is how do they get a piece of it and how to tax it.
                                                                    Exactly the same in health care. No idea, they themselves have a gold plated plan --- big gov't likes to score points acting like they are doing something for you
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                                                                    • existential
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 07-21-14
                                                                      • 2963

                                                                      #104
                                                                      Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                                                      My question is, "Who cares what a judge says?" Isn't that ultimately the NJ position? A judge is impotent. He can declare unconstitutional things all day long, but if no one enforces the supposed laws on the books, it doesn't matter.
                                                                      been thinking about that too, but Christie and the Senator both said they want consent from the judge in order to 'eliminate the possibility of future expensive litigation'.

                                                                      the fact is, however, by Christie signing the Senator's bill, privatized sports betting is now officially decriminalized within the State. that's big and nothing can change that. at the very least, it creates a grey area where an operation could move forward in theory.
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                                                                      • jjgold
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                                        • 388179

                                                                        #105
                                                                        It seems to me New Jersey is just not prepared like usual

                                                                        Everything is done half ass

                                                                        Watch this backfire and cost New Jersey millions in lawsuits
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