Originally posted by jjgold
BREAKING NEWS, NJ's Lesniak: "Christie signed my sports betting legislation..."
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edawgSBR MVP
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#106Ctown coach drink whiskey not beer and don't use hookers.Comment -
sourtwistSBR Hall of Famer- 11-10-12
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#107Can you please start using the correct phrase "couldnt care less" rather than the idiotic phrases "could care less" or "can care less" please?Originally posted by jjgoldSome think NJ politicians just doing this for elections and can care less if it passes
Basically pp;political strategy//"we tried"Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#108I guess the rulings going to be late Thursday or Friday morning??Comment -
ttrace35SBR Posting Legend
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#109JJ. Meet me at the track on Sunday,Comment -
sweepSBR Posting Legend
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#110sundays a no-go....same judge ruling on injuction as did last time. Jersey getting snowballed here. Lucky to see ticket takers by playoffsOriginally posted by ttrace35JJ. Meet me at the track on Sunday,Comment -
Thor4140SBR Posting Legend
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#111Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#112I'm skipping town man today I'll start a thread later about it
Originally posted by ttrace35JJ. Meet me at the track on Sunday,Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#113Read my post above and tell me, please, how any judge's ruling matters at all. Say Roger Goodell sends a lackey to Monmouth to threaten them. Well, so what? You and what army? It's all about the lackey and Goodell, or whomever getting a political action team from the DOJ --- otherwise, they just say, "Shut up lackey" and escort him out.Originally posted by Thor4140Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.Comment -
TridentSBR MVP
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#114Originally posted by Thor4140Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#115whoever finds out ruling today post it
I will be on road
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recon1SBR MVP- 08-13-12
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#116Pretty much what i alluded to the other day and Well said Thor.Originally posted by Thor4140Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.
More to this than simple legislation.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#117Many think it's a conspiracy
There will be an injunction in my opinion todayComment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#118Why won't anyone answer. Who cares about an injunction if there's no one to enforce it?
Same as weedComment -
existentialSBR MVP
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#119no guarantee the judge makes a ruling today. would be interesting to see if Monmouth goes forward without oneOriginally posted by jjgoldI guess the rulings going to be late Thursday or Friday morning??Comment -
jimSBR Sharp
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#120Originally posted by StackinGreenWhy won't anyone answer. Who cares about an injunction if there's no one to enforce it?
Same as weed
because if they took bets in contravention of an injunction losing bettors could sue to get their money back.
better to wait until things get ironed out, the fact there wasn't a quick injunction is good news.Comment -
TridentSBR MVP
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#121Will be announced at 4:30 estOriginally posted by existentialno guarantee the judge makes a ruling today. would be interesting to see if Monmouth goes forward without one
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stumpSBR MVP
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#122doesn't look goodComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#123Monmouth will not go forward without oneComment -
sourtwistSBR Hall of Famer- 11-10-12
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#124Fukkin guy nonstop posting while driving to vegas....liarComment -
ttrace35SBR Posting Legend
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#125430 decisionComment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#126ok, good answer, thanks for the responseOriginally posted by jimbecause if they took bets in contravention of an injunction losing bettors could sue to get their money back.
better to wait until things get ironed out, the fact there wasn't a quick injunction is good news.
would they actually win though, KNOWING the law, that it's illegal?Comment -
StackinGreenSBR Posting Legend
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#127The fact that some states can have sports gambling and some can't shows exactly how corrupt law and judges are. You don't have to be a scholar to plainly see that it's unconstitutional. Where'd they learn law from, Obama?Comment -
existentialSBR MVP
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#128the language of the Federal Appeals Court decision (who heard the case last year) mentioned that the State could repeal its own laws against privatized sports betting. that's the only reason the Senator pushed for the public vote (which passed) and then subsequently wrote the bill which Christie eventually signed.
so, in short, the State followed the Appeals Court 'suggestion' (if you will) and are essentially basing their entire case upon it.. i.e. they've successfully decriminalized privatized sports betting within their State. and Monmouth Park is a non-State regulated private party (according to them). so even if this judge grants the leagues their injunction today, you'd think the State will again challenge the court based on this alone.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#129Just post up 5dimes
Fukkin easier
No fukkin red tapeComment -
existentialSBR MVP
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#130
John Brennan <s>@</s>BergenBrennan
Only 8 folks here in Trenton courtroom awaiting 4:30 Monmouth Park sports betting ruling <s>#</s>soquietComment -
pattymayoSBR Posting Legend
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#131judge should be ruling any minuteComment -
existentialSBR MVP
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#132TRO granted
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pattymayoSBR Posting Legend
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#133So much for that
BREAKING: NJ fed court Judge Shipp grants temporary restraining order to delay Monmouth Park NFL betting from occurring SundayComment -
OptionalAdministrator
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#134Judge grants restraining order.
No party Sunday at Monmouth
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floridagolferSBR MVP
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#135You knew it wasn't going to be this easy.
This is still years away.Comment -
brooks85SBR Aristocracy
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#136hilarious the nfl and nba were apart of this block. Too bad people can't even be motivated enough to punish them by avoiding their product for a short time. Even the fans with garbage teams still can't muster up some self-respect.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#137now what??
Will they tie it up in courts for a year?Comment -
jimSBR Sharp
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#138i will never attend a pro sporting event until gambling on it is legalized!Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#139By: DAVID PORTER
TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - A federal judge on Friday granted a request from the four major U.S. professional sports leagues and the NCAA to temporarily stop New Jersey from allowing legalized sports betting.
U.S. District Judge Michael Shipp issued a temporary restraining order after a request by the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, Major League Baseball and the NCAA. He said the leagues have shown that they would be irreparably harmed if the state's casinos and racetracks were permitted to allow sports betting.
The leagues' lawsuit against the state to permanently prevent it from allowing sports betting will proceed.
Republican Gov. Chris Christie signed a law on Oct. 17 that effectively repeals the state's ban on sports wagering and allows it at racetracks and casinos.
"This is a temporary order while the core issues surrounding sports wagering in New Jersey are fully considered by the court," Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak said in a statement. "We continue to have full confidence in the strength and appropriateness of our position as we move forward in the litigation."
Monmouth Park racetrack said that its plan to start accepting bets on Sunday has been put on hold following the decision.
"While we are disappointed not to be able to start this Sunday, we are confident that sports betting will be coming to New Jersey in the very near future," Dennis Drazin, a legal consultant for the racetrack, said in a statement.
No other racetracks or casinos have revealed plans yet to offer sports betting.
New Jersey would have become only the second state in the country, after Nevada, to offer wagering on individual games at betting locations known as sports books. Delaware offers multi-game parlay pools where bettors must pick several games correctly to win money.
In an opinion read in court Friday, Shipp said he based his granting of the temporary restraining order partly on the public interest in knowing whether state law is in conflict with federal law. He also said the leagues demonstrated they would be "irreparably harmed" if sports betting were allowed in New Jersey.
"More legal gambling leads to more total gambling, which in turns leads to an increased incentive to fix plaintiffs' matches," Shipp said. New Jersey's permission of sports gambling "would engender the same ills" that the 1992 federal law at the heart of the current legal fight sought to combat, he added.
New Jersey already lost a constitutional challenge to that law, the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, which bans state-sponsored sports gambling. Instead, Christie relied on a 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals ruling last year that said PASPA didn't prohibit New Jersey "from repealing its ban on sports wagering." The leagues have claimed the state is nevertheless violating the law because racetracks and casinos are heavily regulated by the state.
Shipp indicated the temporary restraining order was necessary to ensure the issue is argued in court. The leagues and the state traded briefs this week up until Thursday.
"At this stage of the proceedings, the court can't read the 3rd Circuit's order so as to render PASPA null," Shipp said. He was to issue a schedule for further court hearings later Friday.
New Jersey lawmakers see sports betting as a lifeline for the state's flagging casino and horse racing industries. In Nevada, nearly $3.5 billion was wagered on sports in 2012, according to the American Gaming Association, a Washington-based trade group. More than 95 percent of that was returned to patrons in winnings, the group estimated.
Estimates of illegal sports betting nationwide run into the hundreds of billions of dollars annually.Comment -
shaunoverySBR Posting Legend
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#140Didn't they ban the openingComment
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