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  • edawg
    SBR MVP
    • 07-09-11
    • 2866

    #106
    Originally posted by jjgold
    edawg where you live??

    Lets go drinking man..we will buy a fukkin keg and get some hookers
    Ctown coach drink whiskey not beer and don't use hookers.
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    • sourtwist
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 11-10-12
      • 9364

      #107
      Originally posted by jjgold
      Some think NJ politicians just doing this for elections and can care less if it passes

      Basically pp;political strategy//"we tried"
      Can you please start using the correct phrase "couldnt care less" rather than the idiotic phrases "could care less" or "can care less" please?
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      • jjgold
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 07-20-05
        • 388208

        #108
        I guess the rulings going to be late Thursday or Friday morning??
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        • ttrace35
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-30-10
          • 10828

          #109
          JJ. Meet me at the track on Sunday,
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          • sweep
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-09-10
            • 16755

            #110
            Originally posted by ttrace35
            JJ. Meet me at the track on Sunday,
            sundays a no-go....same judge ruling on injuction as did last time. Jersey getting snowballed here. Lucky to see ticket takers by playoffs
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            • Thor4140
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-09-08
              • 22277

              #111
              Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388208

                #112
                I'm skipping town man today I'll start a thread later about it

                Originally posted by ttrace35
                JJ. Meet me at the track on Sunday,
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                • StackinGreen
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-09-10
                  • 12140

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Thor4140
                  Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.
                  Read my post above and tell me, please, how any judge's ruling matters at all. Say Roger Goodell sends a lackey to Monmouth to threaten them. Well, so what? You and what army? It's all about the lackey and Goodell, or whomever getting a political action team from the DOJ --- otherwise, they just say, "Shut up lackey" and escort him out.
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                  • Trident
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-07-09
                    • 2362

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Thor4140
                    Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.
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                    • jjgold
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 07-20-05
                      • 388208

                      #115
                      whoever finds out ruling today post it

                      I will be on road

                      thanks
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                      • recon1
                        SBR MVP
                        • 08-13-12
                        • 2579

                        #116
                        Originally posted by Thor4140
                        Here is the deal and i said this from day one to u monkey's. The league has a lobby group who may be the best in the world. These leagues own Vegas and when they fix games they make huge profits (unfortunately there are people so clueless to not realize a trillion dollar business world wide would fix games). Now if Jersey starts this up they benefit greatly because of these corrupt leagues. These leagues want money and that is the whole holdup. It is their corrupt product that Jersey will be making easy money off of. I have said this from day one and people said to me "why should the league care" "you are way off base". Well all of the sudden the leagues are involved just like i said they would be. As soon as the leagues figure out the percentage they need to steal from people rigging games and NJ, it will be okay with it, we will have gambling on pro sports in NJ. Money money and more money.
                        Pretty much what i alluded to the other day and Well said Thor.

                        More to this than simple legislation.
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                        • jjgold
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388208

                          #117
                          Many think it's a conspiracy

                          There will be an injunction in my opinion today
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                          • StackinGreen
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-09-10
                            • 12140

                            #118
                            Why won't anyone answer. Who cares about an injunction if there's no one to enforce it?

                            Same as weed
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                            • existential
                              SBR MVP
                              • 07-21-14
                              • 2963

                              #119
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              I guess the rulings going to be late Thursday or Friday morning??
                              no guarantee the judge makes a ruling today. would be interesting to see if Monmouth goes forward without one
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                              • jim
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 11-30-06
                                • 479

                                #120
                                Originally posted by StackinGreen
                                Why won't anyone answer. Who cares about an injunction if there's no one to enforce it?

                                Same as weed

                                because if they took bets in contravention of an injunction losing bettors could sue to get their money back.

                                better to wait until things get ironed out, the fact there wasn't a quick injunction is good news.
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                                • Trident
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 02-07-09
                                  • 2362

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by existential
                                  no guarantee the judge makes a ruling today. would be interesting to see if Monmouth goes forward without one
                                  Will be announced at 4:30 est

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                                  • stump
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-14-05
                                    • 1719

                                    #122
                                    doesn't look good
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                                    • jjgold
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 07-20-05
                                      • 388208

                                      #123
                                      Monmouth will not go forward without one
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                                      • sourtwist
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-10-12
                                        • 9364

                                        #124
                                        Fukkin guy nonstop posting while driving to vegas....liar
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                                        • ttrace35
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 09-30-10
                                          • 10828

                                          #125
                                          430 decision
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                                          • StackinGreen
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 10-09-10
                                            • 12140

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by jim
                                            because if they took bets in contravention of an injunction losing bettors could sue to get their money back.

                                            better to wait until things get ironed out, the fact there wasn't a quick injunction is good news.
                                            ok, good answer, thanks for the response

                                            would they actually win though, KNOWING the law, that it's illegal?
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                                            • StackinGreen
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 10-09-10
                                              • 12140

                                              #127
                                              The fact that some states can have sports gambling and some can't shows exactly how corrupt law and judges are. You don't have to be a scholar to plainly see that it's unconstitutional. Where'd they learn law from, Obama?
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                                              • existential
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 07-21-14
                                                • 2963

                                                #128
                                                the language of the Federal Appeals Court decision (who heard the case last year) mentioned that the State could repeal its own laws against privatized sports betting. that's the only reason the Senator pushed for the public vote (which passed) and then subsequently wrote the bill which Christie eventually signed.

                                                so, in short, the State followed the Appeals Court 'suggestion' (if you will) and are essentially basing their entire case upon it.. i.e. they've successfully decriminalized privatized sports betting within their State. and Monmouth Park is a non-State regulated private party (according to them). so even if this judge grants the leagues their injunction today, you'd think the State will again challenge the court based on this alone.
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                                                • jjgold
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                  • 388208

                                                  #129
                                                  Just post up 5dimes

                                                  Fukkin easier

                                                  No fukkin red tape
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                                                  • existential
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 07-21-14
                                                    • 2963

                                                    #130
                                                    John Brennan ‏<s>@</s>BergenBrennan

                                                    Only 8 folks here in Trenton courtroom awaiting 4:30 Monmouth Park sports betting ruling <s>#</s>soquiet
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                                                    • pattymayo
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 05-19-09
                                                      • 10221

                                                      #131
                                                      judge should be ruling any minute
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                                                      • existential
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-21-14
                                                        • 2963

                                                        #132
                                                        TRO granted
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                                                        • pattymayo
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 05-19-09
                                                          • 10221

                                                          #133
                                                          So much for that

                                                          BREAKING: NJ fed court Judge Shipp grants temporary restraining order to delay Monmouth Park NFL betting from occurring Sunday
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                                                          • Optional
                                                            Administrator
                                                            • 06-10-10
                                                            • 62639

                                                            #134
                                                            Judge grants restraining order.

                                                            No party Sunday at Monmouth
                                                            .
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                                                            • floridagolfer
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 12-19-08
                                                              • 2762

                                                              #135
                                                              You knew it wasn't going to be this easy.

                                                              This is still years away.
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                                                              • brooks85
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 01-05-09
                                                                • 44644

                                                                #136
                                                                hilarious the nfl and nba were apart of this block. Too bad people can't even be motivated enough to punish them by avoiding their product for a short time. Even the fans with garbage teams still can't muster up some self-respect.
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                                                                • jjgold
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-20-05
                                                                  • 388208

                                                                  #137
                                                                  now what??

                                                                  Will they tie it up in courts for a year?
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                                                                  • jim
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 11-30-06
                                                                    • 479

                                                                    #138
                                                                    i will never attend a pro sporting event until gambling on it is legalized!
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                                                                    • jjgold
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-20-05
                                                                      • 388208

                                                                      #139
                                                                      By: DAVID PORTER

                                                                      TRENTON, N.J. (AP) - A federal judge on Friday granted a request from the four major U.S. professional sports leagues and the NCAA to temporarily stop New Jersey from allowing legalized sports betting.
                                                                      U.S. District Judge Michael Shipp issued a temporary restraining order after a request by the NFL, the NBA, the NHL, Major League Baseball and the NCAA. He said the leagues have shown that they would be irreparably harmed if the state's casinos and racetracks were permitted to allow sports betting.
                                                                      The leagues' lawsuit against the state to permanently prevent it from allowing sports betting will proceed.
                                                                      Republican Gov. Chris Christie signed a law on Oct. 17 that effectively repeals the state's ban on sports wagering and allows it at racetracks and casinos.
                                                                      "This is a temporary order while the core issues surrounding sports wagering in New Jersey are fully considered by the court," Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak said in a statement. "We continue to have full confidence in the strength and appropriateness of our position as we move forward in the litigation."
                                                                      Monmouth Park racetrack said that its plan to start accepting bets on Sunday has been put on hold following the decision.
                                                                      "While we are disappointed not to be able to start this Sunday, we are confident that sports betting will be coming to New Jersey in the very near future," Dennis Drazin, a legal consultant for the racetrack, said in a statement.
                                                                      No other racetracks or casinos have revealed plans yet to offer sports betting.
                                                                      New Jersey would have become only the second state in the country, after Nevada, to offer wagering on individual games at betting locations known as sports books. Delaware offers multi-game parlay pools where bettors must pick several games correctly to win money.
                                                                      In an opinion read in court Friday, Shipp said he based his granting of the temporary restraining order partly on the public interest in knowing whether state law is in conflict with federal law. He also said the leagues demonstrated they would be "irreparably harmed" if sports betting were allowed in New Jersey.
                                                                      "More legal gambling leads to more total gambling, which in turns leads to an increased incentive to fix plaintiffs' matches," Shipp said. New Jersey's permission of sports gambling "would engender the same ills" that the 1992 federal law at the heart of the current legal fight sought to combat, he added.
                                                                      New Jersey already lost a constitutional challenge to that law, the Professional and Amateur Sports Protection Act, which bans state-sponsored sports gambling. Instead, Christie relied on a 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals ruling last year that said PASPA didn't prohibit New Jersey "from repealing its ban on sports wagering." The leagues have claimed the state is nevertheless violating the law because racetracks and casinos are heavily regulated by the state.
                                                                      Shipp indicated the temporary restraining order was necessary to ensure the issue is argued in court. The leagues and the state traded briefs this week up until Thursday.
                                                                      "At this stage of the proceedings, the court can't read the 3rd Circuit's order so as to render PASPA null," Shipp said. He was to issue a schedule for further court hearings later Friday.
                                                                      New Jersey lawmakers see sports betting as a lifeline for the state's flagging casino and horse racing industries. In Nevada, nearly $3.5 billion was wagered on sports in 2012, according to the American Gaming Association, a Washington-based trade group. More than 95 percent of that was returned to patrons in winnings, the group estimated.
                                                                      Estimates of illegal sports betting nationwide run into the hundreds of billions of dollars annually.
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                                                                      • shaunovery
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                                                                        • 11-15-07
                                                                        • 18143

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Didn't they ban the opening
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