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  • DwightShrute
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    • 01-17-09
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    #106
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    • jon101
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 11-05-07
      • 615

      #107
      Shows how much you know about gas, remember the market is what controls gas prices, we are talking about the fact that Obama is lying and broke a campaign promise. Just because you label someone something doesn't make it a fact. I have presented the facts, you judge the facts for yourself!@
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      • therber2
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        • 12-22-08
        • 3715

        #108
        Originally posted by daggerkobe
        omfg...... you never heard neonitwits whine like this when Dumbya quadrupled gas prices, costing each driver approxmiately $2000-3000 a year in added fuel costs. But they whine about tax on cigarettes when they probably don't even smoke.

        Most economists, predict crude oil prices to go back up to where they were. This includes your savior. So again, what are you going to say when gas prices are back to where they were before, big energy is running well above break even, and developing advancements in their fields. Would you say Obama did it? This is a tricky one for you DaggerKobe; gas prices high = bad; advancement of society = good? Good or bad??? At this point Dagger will probably say that Obama pulls the strings on all of the good stuff, but just couldn't do anything to fix "the mess that he inherited." -Book of Liberal Economics 10:3

        Liberals think that heavy tax on cigarettes is a good thing? This country was founded on tobacco and cigarettes. Also, it doesn't take any genius to tell you poor people smoke a whole lot more than the rest. Such a gigantic disgusting contradiction.
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        • andywend
          SBR MVP
          • 05-20-07
          • 4805

          #109
          DwightShrute, I would like to offer you my congratulations for sticking it to that blow-hard/left-wing useless DaggerKobe.

          Its not too often a socialist blowhard like him replies back "we'll agree to disagree".

          That was a fantastic YouTube video that you posted which confirms what I have been saying all along.

          It was the democrats that caused this housing bubble which destroyed the U.S. economy.

          You have to get a good laugh when idiot democrats say things like "Bush raised oil prices". It shows how little they know about what actually causes oil prices to rise and fall.
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          • DwightShrute
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-17-09
            • 103744

            #110
            Originally posted by andywend
            DwightShrute, I would like to offer you my congratulations for sticking it to that blow-hard/left-wing useless DaggerKobe.

            Its not too often a socialist blowhard like him replies back "we'll agree to disagree".

            That was a fantastic YouTube video that you posted which confirms what I have been saying all along.

            It was the democrats that caused this housing bubble which destroyed the U.S. economy.

            You have to get a good laugh when idiot democrats say things like "Bush raised oil prices". It shows how little they know about what actually causes oil prices to rise and fall.

            Thank you sir

            It does amaze me when the truth is staring them right in the face, they will try and spin it and deflect the blame elsewhere.
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            • wtf
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 08-22-08
              • 12983

              #111
              Originally posted by DwightShrute
              Thank you sir

              It does amaze me when the truth is staring them right in the face, they will try and spin it and deflect the blame elsewhere.

              or they go to plan B, name calling , an oldie but a goodie
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              • pico
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 04-05-07
                • 27321

                #112
                daggerkobe is going to pay for black jesus's spending plan for the rest of his life

                that is if he actually works and doesn't live off welfare.
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                • daggerkobe
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 03-25-08
                  • 10744

                  #113
                  Less brain activity here than Natasha Richardson.

                  I'd pull the plug.
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                  • DwightShrute
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 01-17-09
                    • 103744

                    #114
                    Originally posted by daggerkobe
                    Less brain activity here than Natasha Richardson.

                    I'd pull the plug.

                    don't be too hard on yourself daggerkobe
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                    • daggerkobe
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-25-08
                      • 10744

                      #115
                      How the oil man Bush raised the oil price and now holds the country hostage to environmental pollution by drilling offshore

                      Tania Solars
                      Jun. 18, 2008


                      It was interesting to hear US President George Bush, a failed businessman who destroyed the economy his country and took the world hostage to an illegal war that should have never happened.

                      President Bush urged Congress today to permit drilling for oil off America's coasts -- on the outer continental shelf -- to combat rising oil and gas prices. This is the biggest set up in the history of the world.

                      When Bush took over Whitehouse in 2001, gasoline price hovered between $1 and $2. Today it is between $4 and $5. This is how Bush and his administration helped the oil price rise:

                      The Iraq war took away 1.4 million barrels of oil per day from the market. Very little of that eventually came back. When Bush Administration took over power from the Clintons, the dollar was strong and gold price was making new lows. Bush Administration decided to spend ruthlessly in the name of conservatism and increase the budgert deficit. In the name of illusive globalization of trade they allowed countries like China and India to dump goods and labor in the US market. The budget deficit and trade deficit went through the roof and the US dollar lost half its value.

                      The lower dollar made the oil producers less enthusiastic to produce more oil. OPEC decided to restrict oil production. At the same time guess what India and China didi with the free flowing outsourcing money from United States? They subsidized petroleum products for their own citizen. That in turn increased world demand for oil by 40%.

                      Bush Administration did not stop at this in helping the oil tycoons that helped them to come to power. They went ahead and expanded the strategic oil reserve at a time when oil price on average is rising 30 to 50% every year. Instead of releasing the strategic reserve stock, they increased stocking it. It was the biggest consumer unfriendly move. Buying oil at the peak to build extra reserve when people in the country is going hungry to pay for their gasoline bill? It never made any sense as a leader who was put into power through a democratic process. It was a nonsense from the economic perspective too.

                      Now it becomes clear why Bush did what he did to artificially boost the oil price. At this stage he can make a case that oil price will come down by drilling offshore and in Alaska. Fact of the matter is that these political spins of the same Administartion who lied on ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’ to start an unnecessary war. It is a way to hand over the trillions of dollars to these oil companies and oil infrastructure companies like Dick Cheney’s Haliburton.
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                      • DwightShrute
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-17-09
                        • 103744

                        #116
                        Originally posted by daggerkobe
                        How the oil man Bush raised the oil price and now holds the country hostage to environmental pollution by drilling offshore

                        Tania Solars
                        Jun. 18, 2008
                        It was interesting to hear US President George Bush, a failed businessman who destroyed the economy his country and took the world hostage to an illegal war that should have never happened.

                        President Bush urged Congress today to permit drilling for oil off America's coasts -- on the outer continental shelf -- to combat rising oil and gas prices. This is the biggest set up in the history of the world.

                        When Bush took over Whitehouse in 2001, gasoline price hovered between $1 and $2. Today it is between $4 and $5. This is how Bush and his administration helped the oil price rise:

                        The Iraq war took away 1.4 million barrels of oil per day from the market. Very little of that eventually came back. When Bush Administration took over power from the Clintons, the dollar was strong and gold price was making new lows. Bush Administration decided to spend ruthlessly in the name of conservatism and increase the budgert deficit. In the name of illusive globalization of trade they allowed countries like China and India to dump goods and labor in the US market. The budget deficit and trade deficit went through the roof and the US dollar lost half its value.

                        The lower dollar made the oil producers less enthusiastic to produce more oil. OPEC decided to restrict oil production. At the same time guess what India and China didi with the free flowing outsourcing money from United States? They subsidized petroleum products for their own citizen. That in turn increased world demand for oil by 40%.

                        Bush Administration did not stop at this in helping the oil tycoons that helped them to come to power. They went ahead and expanded the strategic oil reserve at a time when oil price on average is rising 30 to 50% every year. Instead of releasing the strategic reserve stock, they increased stocking it. It was the biggest consumer unfriendly move. Buying oil at the peak to build extra reserve when people in the country is going hungry to pay for their gasoline bill? It never made any sense as a leader who was put into power through a democratic process. It was a nonsense from the economic perspective too.

                        Now it becomes clear why Bush did what he did to artificially boost the oil price. At this stage he can make a case that oil price will come down by drilling offshore and in Alaska. Fact of the matter is that these political spins of the same Administartion who lied on ‘Weapons of Mass Destruction’ to start an unnecessary war. It is a way to hand over the trillions of dollars to these oil companies and oil infrastructure companies like Dick Cheney’s Haliburton.
                        Tania Solars is a democrat maybe?


                        Educate yourself ... http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...l-bush-clouds/


                        SHAPIRO: To dispel Bush clouds


                        COMMENTARY:
                        In the coming months, years and decades, history will be the judge of what kind of leader former President Bush was, but those Americans interested in preserving his legacy must take an aggressive approach to dispel the many myths and lies that already exist.
                        Clearly, the most contested area of Mr. Bush's presidency will be his foreign policy, namely his decision to send troops to Iraq. For several years, numerous myths have existed about the war, and it is imperative that we correct any falsehoods for the historical record.
                        These myths have falsely portrayed Mr. Bush as an imperialist president who illegally invaded a foreign country to seize its oil and dominate its people. The truth however, is that Mr. Bush liberated a country from the cruelty and oppression of a sadistic dictator, returned the oil to the Iraqi people and acted in full compliance with both domestic and international law. In fact, Mr. Bush's decision to send troops back to Iraq not only complied with international law but fulfilled obligations set by the United Nations.
                        In October 2002, Congress authorized the president to use whatever military force was necessary to fulfill U.N. resolutions pertaining to Iraq and the Gulf war. This was because after the U.N. authorized a coalition of the willing to use military force against Iraq for its illegal invasion of Kuwait in 1990, the U.N. temporarily suspended the Gulf war in 1991 with a cease-fire agreement that imposed stipulations upon Saddam Hussein.
                        Saddam violated those cease-fire conditions by failing to give U.N. weapon inspectors unfettered access, which actually prompted military action from President Clinton in 1998 when he launched a massive bombing campaign against Iraq during Operation Desert Fox.
                        In 2002, the United Nations resolved that Saddam was in "material breach" of the cease-fire agreement and that Iraq faced "serious consequences." Because the cease-fire did not end but merely suspended the Gulf war, Saddam Hussein's continued violations of the agreement reactivated the war.
                        President Bush did not start a new war in 2003 that violated domestic or international law. He merely complied with Congress' 2002 vote by honoring resolutions passed by the United Nations that reactivated the original Gulf war.
                        The president's critics accuse his administration of falsifying intelligence about Saddam Hussein having the capability of building weapons of mass destruction. This stems from the claim that the president solely relied on intelligence that Saddam was trying to purchase yellowcake uranium from Niger to build a nuclear weapons program. These reports later proved to be inaccurate.
                        The media failed to emphasize, however, that Saddam was already in possession of 550 tons of yellowcake uranium, which he was storing at the Tuwaitha nuclear complex south of Baghdad. That uranium was found and secured by coalition troops in 2003 after they liberated Iraq and was finally transported to Canada in July 2008.
                        The president's critics also blast him for allegedly implementing a new policy of Iraqi regime change when in fact that policy was established in the Iraq Liberation Act, signed by President Clinton in 1998. The Act made it the official policy of the United States to support the removal of Saddam Hussein from power. President Bush did not implement a new policy of regime change in Iraq. He was acting in the spirit of the policy already established by President Clinton.
                        The decision to send troops back to Iraq in 2003 was indeed liberation and not an invasion. Investigations by Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, the U.S. Department of State and the British government have all found evidence that the Iraqi people lived under a regime that systematically employed methods of torture and fear. Dissidents suffered from bizarre, cruel methods of torture including dismemberment, piercing, bone-crushing, cutting, acid baths and imprisonment inside coffin-size cells.
                        Women accused of prostitution were publicly beheaded without a trial and male soldiers were authorized to rape women to punish their family members for political resistance. Men were often forced to watch soldiers rape their wives, sisters and daughters as a method of punishment when the female victim was innocent.
                        The removal of Saddam Hussein from power was not an invasion, it was liberation.
                        One of the most widely spread conspiracy theories about President Bush and the war is the false allegation that he sent troops to Iraq to illegally steal its oil. There is no truth to this allegation. In fact, the new Oil Draft Law under consideration by the Iraqi government proposes using "production-sharing agreements," which is the same type of oil distribution system used in Iraq for decades.
                        Production-sharing agreements allow foreign governments or private corporations to drill for oil and keep a small percentage of profits for their work while giving the majority of profits earned to the host country. The new Oil Draft Law will continue to implement production-sharing agreements, but the Iraqi profits will now go to the new democratic government instead of Saddam. The United States is not stealing any oil from Iraq.
                        There are many more myths and lies the far left has successfully perpetuated about Mr. Bush and the liberation of Iraq, but this column is not the appropriate forum to dispel them. Because these lies have been so deeply ingrained in the consciousness of the American public, those wishing to restore the president's reputation must take a pro-active, aggressive approach that exports knowledge to the people.
                        Merely relying on a passive institute such as a presidential library and waiting for people to learn the truth on their own will not be sufficient in this unique case. Most people who visit the new George W. Bush presidential library will most likely already be sympathetic to him and there must be a more aggressive approach used to inform all Americans.
                        It is perhaps one of the greatest historical ironies and tragedies that a leader who cares so deeply about human rights and the freedom of oppressed people has been falsely portrayed as an imperialist invader. It is time for those working on the former president's legacy to adequately communicate his vision of worldwide liberation to the American people. The historical record must be corrected to accurately reflect President Bush's legacy and for the honor of our country.
                        Jeffrey Scott Shapiro is the National Organizer of HONOR FREEDOM (www.honorfreedom.com), a nonprofit foundation dedicated to correcting the historical record about President Bush and the war in Iraq.
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                        • daggerkobe
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 03-25-08
                          • 10744

                          #117
                          Is your IQ over 50? I doubt it.

                          I present FACTS on how Dumbya manipulated oil prices for the benefit of his cronies in the oil industry and you rebutt with some inane rantings about the Iraq war, from a Jew, no less. I don't know whether to or kick your parents in the crotch for not aborting you.
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                          • DwightShrute
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 01-17-09
                            • 103744

                            #118
                            Originally posted by daggerkobe
                            Is your IQ over 50? I doubt it.

                            I present FACTS on how Dumbya manipulated oil prices for the benefit of his cronies in the oil industry and you rebutt with some inane rantings about the Iraq war, from a Jew, no less. I don't know whether to or kick your parents in the crotch for not aborting you.
                            Sucks seeing everything you wanted to believe proven wrong and have to resort to name calling again.

                            I win and you lose. Go drink some KOOL AID
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                            • Dark Horse
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 12-14-05
                              • 13764

                              #119
                              daggerkobe,

                              Good luck trying to crack that Reich wing armor. You'll notice that they rarely, if ever, think for themselves. Typically, they get their opinions from talk show or television, which they then sing in unison, like a sect surrendered to a chant that requires not thought but dedication to the cause (whatever that cause might be). Ironically, in spite of their strongly held opinion, many of them would be communist in communist China, or nazi in nazi Germany. That's the problem with not thinking and surrendering oneself to propaganda. Remember that they don't question, but obey. They don't research, but believe.

                              I admire Obama for trying to reach out to these drones, but if Mr. Limbaugh could convince his flock that he can part the Gulf of Mexico, and that they should all follow, good riddance...
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                              • losturmarbles
                                SBR MVP
                                • 07-01-08
                                • 4604

                                #120
                                Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                daggerkobe,

                                Good luck trying to crack that Reich wing armor. You'll notice that they rarely, if ever, think for themselves. Typically, they get their opinions from talk show or television, which they then sing in unison, like a sect surrendered to a chant that requires not thought but dedication to the cause (whatever that cause might be). Ironically, in spite of their strongly held opinion, many of them would be communist in communist China, or nazi in nazi Germany. That's the problem with not thinking and surrendering oneself to propaganda. Remember that they don't question, but obey. They don't research, but believe.

                                I admire Obama for trying to reach out to these drones, but if Mr. Limbaugh could convince his flock that he can part the Gulf of Mexico, and that they should all follow, good riddance...
                                Dark Horse,

                                Thank you for being specific in your criticism of conservative views. Thank you also for not making blanket generalizations with no substance or point. Everyone knows that liberals are the wisest of the wise. And those that voted for obama did so because they researched his platform with a thorough due diligence, and not because they are completely ignorant of government's duties and responsibilities.
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                                • therber2
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-22-08
                                  • 3715

                                  #121
                                  “To understand reality is not the same as to know about outward events. It is to
                                  perceive the essential nature of things. The best‐informed man is not necessarily the
                                  wisest. Indeed there is a danger that precisely in the multiplicity of his knowledge he will
                                  lose sight of what is essential. But on the other hand, knowledge of an apparently trivial
                                  detail quite often makes it possible to see into the depth of things. And so the wise man
                                  will seek to acquire the best possible knowledge about events, but always without
                                  becoming dependent upon this knowledge. To recognize the significant in the factual is
                                  wisdom.”
                                  Dietrich Bonhoeffer

                                  So many psuedo-factual claims being made here. The problem with liberals is that they will repeat something over and over; and regardless of first hand proof it will become fact.
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                                  • DwightShrute
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 01-17-09
                                    • 103744

                                    #122


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                                    • pico
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 04-05-07
                                      • 27321

                                      #123
                                      daggerkobe after graduating from high school
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                                      • pico
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 04-05-07
                                        • 27321

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by DwightShrute
                                        here we go
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                                        • Dark Horse
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 12-14-05
                                          • 13764

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by losturmarbles
                                          Dark Horse,

                                          Thank you for being specific in your criticism of conservative views. Thank you also for not making blanket generalizations with no substance or point.
                                          My pleasure. Good to see you didn't read past my use of 'rarely' and 'typically'. I actually feel for conservatives who can think. Then again, you (plural) had your chance to stand up against the blind ideologues that steered your ship, and did nothing...
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                                          • losturmarbles
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 07-01-08
                                            • 4604

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                            My pleasure. Good to see you didn't read past my use of 'rarely' and 'typically'. I actually feel for conservatives who can think. Then again, you (plural) had your chance to stand up against the blind ideologues that steered your ship, and did nothing...
                                            rarely, if ever, then out of those typically. dont take yourself out of context there buddy.

                                            well i jumped the elephant ship a long time ago, after it started being infiltrated by big government douchebags.

                                            but i'm curious as to what blind ideologues you are referring to? blind ideology is the backbone of the democratic party... then you have the ignorant masses.
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                                            • reno cool
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 07-02-08
                                              • 3567

                                              #127
                                              Liberation of Iraq. Quit bastardizing the meaning of words. Liberation of Iraq would be when the US, its allies and puppets get driven out of the country for good. The Western torment of Iraq has gone on for 50 years. Get a ****ing clue. Dark Horse is right. You're the patriots that would support the most brutal regime as long as it's not foreign.
                                              bird bird da bird's da word
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                                              • Dark Horse
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-14-05
                                                • 13764

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by losturmarbles
                                                rarely, if ever, then out of those typically. dont take yourself out of context there buddy.
                                                Rarely would they utter a correct sentence. Typically, it would be utter nonsense...


                                                Originally posted by losturmarbles
                                                but i'm curious as to what blind ideologues you are referring to?
                                                If the past eight years didn't satisfy your curiosity, I'm sorry you missed it. It was quite an education in darkness. For the record, before their power grab, the neocons were known as 'the crazies' or 'the crazies in the basement' within the Republican party.
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                                                • andywend
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 05-20-07
                                                  • 4805

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by daggerkobe
                                                  Is your IQ over 50? I doubt it.

                                                  I present FACTS on how Dumbya manipulated oil prices for the benefit of his cronies in the oil industry and you rebutt with some inane rantings about the Iraq war, from a Jew, no less. I don't know whether to or kick your parents in the crotch for not aborting you.
                                                  DaggerKobe, you didn't present any FACTS whatsoever to back up your ridiculous claims. You simply copied and pasted a piece written by a fellow socialist.

                                                  In addition to you being the dumbest person on the face of the Earth, you're also a bigot and an anti-semite.

                                                  Dwight, you know you really got under his skin when reading that response. Congrats to you once again.
                                                  ---------------------------------------------------------------

                                                  Lets assume for a moment that Daggerkobe and his left-wing lunacy is accurate and President Bush was the one who was responsible for manipulating the price of oil from $40 barrel up to almost $150 barrel last summer to enrich the oil companies.

                                                  Why did Bush then allow the price of oil to drop right back down to $40 barrel only a few months later?

                                                  If you're going to go through all the trouble of manipulating the multi-TRILLION dollar oil market, what would be the point of having the price of oil come crashing right back down in price so soon thereafter?

                                                  In one breath, these brain-dead liberals call Bush the stupidest man on Earth and in the next breath they say he single-handedly manipulated the price of oil from $40 up to $150/barrel.
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                                                  • Dark Horse
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 12-14-05
                                                    • 13764

                                                    #130
                                                    As one who closely follows the market, I have no doubt that the oil price was manipulated. By big oil traders. I tested this hypothesis (based on a view of the world of finance beyond this topic) against the behavior of Bernanke in front of Congress, and was able to call the exact peak of oil... Once the Fed realized it would get what it wanted, the oil price dropped like a rock. Remember that the economy was on the brink of collapse at the time, or so Congress was made to believe. It was blackmail of the highest order. Some may laugh at this, and that is fine with me. But remember that it worked in the real world of hard cash; not with 20/20 hindsight, but on the spot.

                                                    And no, it wasn't Bush. He was a puppet. And not very smart. Cheney is a different story. Dark and intelligent. And definitely tied into the international network. If you're interested in the hidden connections, research neocons/pnac/aipac/zionists/fed. But if you would rather spare yourself the trouble and simply assume it's an unfounded conspiracy theory, go right ahead. All the same to me.

                                                    It should at least strike you as peculiar that a privately owned bank, the Fed, is printing over a trillion dollars, out of thin air (which our government should be doing), and spends hundreds of billions of that to buy up government debt. That means the government is -further- in debt to the Fed. For what? For printing money?! Let's call that what it is. A power grab that we'll pay for for the century to come.
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                                                    • andywend
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                                                      • 05-20-07
                                                      • 4805

                                                      #131
                                                      Dark Horse, assuming you knew about this "alleged" manipulation of oil prices while it was happening as you claim, then I assume you took advantage of it financially and made MILLIONS (heck, even BILLIONS).

                                                      Now you can put your money where your mouth is and back up all of your left-wing beliefs and give your money away to those who refuse to help themselves.

                                                      There are millions of Americans who have been "exploited by the rich" and have been forced to sit on their couches and watch TV all day. They have been waiting for rich fat cats like you to step up to the plate and pay their bills, send their kids to college and pay for all the medical care they might need in the future.

                                                      After you have done all this, these couch potatoes (along with the democratic party) will continue to claim that you are exploiting the poor and should do more "sharing of the wealth" and blame all of the world's problems on YOU.

                                                      Welcome to the democratic party!!!
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                                                      • wtf
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 08-22-08
                                                        • 12983

                                                        #132
                                                        way to go andy

                                                        call his BLUFF
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                                                        • reno cool
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-02-08
                                                          • 3567

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by andywend
                                                          Dark Horse, assuming you knew about this "alleged" manipulation of oil prices while it was happening as you claim, then I assume you took advantage of it financially and made MILLIONS (heck, even BILLIONS).

                                                          Now you can put your money where your mouth is and back up all of your left-wing beliefs and give your money away to those who refuse to help themselves.

                                                          There are millions of Americans who have been "exploited by the rich" and have been forced to sit on their couches and watch TV all day. They have been waiting for rich fat cats like you to step up to the plate and pay their bills, send their kids to college and pay for all the medical care they might need in the future.

                                                          After you have done all this, these couch potatoes (along with the democratic party) will continue to claim that you are exploiting the poor and should do more "sharing of the wealth" and blame all of the world's problems on YOU.

                                                          Welcome to the democratic party!!!
                                                          You should be ashamed. Where do you have to live to have such views? Is it the rich that fight in bs wars or do all the dirty work in this society?
                                                          bird bird da bird's da word
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                                                          • Dark Horse
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 12-14-05
                                                            • 13764

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by andywend
                                                            Dark Horse, assuming you knew about this "alleged" manipulation of oil prices while it was happening as you claim, then I assume you took advantage of it financially and made MILLIONS (heck, even BILLIONS).

                                                            Now you can put your money where your mouth is and back up all of your left-wing beliefs and give your money away to those who refuse to help themselves.

                                                            There are millions of Americans who have been "exploited by the rich" and have been forced to sit on their couches and watch TV all day. They have been waiting for rich fat cats like you to step up to the plate and pay their bills, send their kids to college and pay for all the medical care they might need in the future.

                                                            After you have done all this, these couch potatoes (along with the democratic party) will continue to claim that you are exploiting the poor and should do more "sharing of the wealth" and blame all of the world's problems on YOU.

                                                            Welcome to the democratic party!!!
                                                            Your apparent belief that one successful trade makes a millionaire or billionaire is unfounded. I mentioned that instance because it was a sweet confirmation of the theory I had developed after studying the dark, hidden side of the world's financial system. A theory that is and will continue to be very useful in the world of trading.

                                                            Keep tabs on what the Fed is 'buying up' in this bailout. And remember that they are getting it for free. With money that, since December 1913, they print. With money that, according to the Constitution, the government should be printing. And while doing so, ask yourself why the media are referring to the Fed as the 'government'...

                                                            (Government bailout? I don't think so.)
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                                                            • andywend
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                                                              • 05-20-07
                                                              • 4805

                                                              #135
                                                              RenoCool, if you're trying to make the claim that our military is not treated fairly once they return from duty, I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY.

                                                              In my opinion, every member of the infantry in all of the armed forces should have a complete and total safety net at taxpayer expense once they have satisfied some sort of time served requirement. Once they put their lives at risk to defend the country, the country should defend them for the rest of their lives if they ever need it.

                                                              While this might sound socialistic to you, I don't believe it is as those that served in the military have paid their dues to the country and we owe them a decent standard of living for the rest of their lives.

                                                              The difference between us is you believe this safety net should apply to everyone regardless of whether or not they have contributed to the well being of the country.

                                                              DarkHorse, I assume you're the same person who posted on TradeSports/Intrade who tried to make the claim that the 9/11 tragedy was completely manufactured by the "neocons" and Al Qaida had nothing to do with it.

                                                              I just don't buy in to these conspiracy theories and I don't believe the oil market was manipulated by the Bush administration. Your hatred for the republican party and its values is clouding your judgment.

                                                              As far as this entire bailout and what the federal government is doing, we are in total agreement in opposition to it.
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                                                              • Dark Horse
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 12-14-05
                                                                • 13764

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by andywend
                                                                I just don't buy in to these conspiracy theories and I don't believe the oil market was manipulated by the Bush administration. Your hatred for the republican party and its values is clouding your judgment.

                                                                As far as this entire bailout and what the federal government is doing, we are in total agreement in opposition to it.
                                                                We are not in agreement about the bailout and what it stands for. Based on the above, I can practically guarantee you that. Because it involves what you would consider an enormous conspiracy, and what I would view as the everyday workings behind the scenes that are not reported by the media. The media are corporately owned. So are our politicians. Do the math.

                                                                This is what is going on right now:

                                                                "Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws." -1790, Mayer Amschel Rothschild


                                                                If you haven't read it, here's what they don't teach you in business school: http://www.scribd.com/doc/3495040/co...ers-a-mustread

                                                                As to my motivation, I try to destroy beliefs (beginning with my own) until there is nothing left to destroy. Whatever is left standing must be beyond destruction and therefore true. This works for me. I'm not suggesting that you do the same. If it eases your mind to come up with a patronizing assumption that hatred must be blinding me, be my guest. Everything I've said here is based on logic. You may not agree with that logic, which is fine. But hatred? You can do better than that.
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                                                                • slacker00
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 10-06-05
                                                                  • 12262

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by jon101
                                                                  Mccain wasn't much of a choice though, with him the government would have been in disarray.
                                                                  Obama won by default, not a big choice when you compare the two.
                                                                  This is the bottom line. We don't hear the Right championing McCain or anyone else, but bashing Obama. The Right doesn't have an answer.

                                                                  We need more than two idiotic choices in these stupid elections. It's like choosing between dumb & dumber. If March Madness can coordinate a 65 team survival of the fittest tournament, why can't a presidential election find a single guy that's fit to lead? I'm being rhetorical, but I firmly believe a system change to allow legitimate 3rd party contenders needs to be established to increase competition and sweep out the idiocy in government.
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                                                                  • therber2
                                                                    Restricted User
                                                                    • 12-22-08
                                                                    • 3715

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                    Your apparent belief that one successful trade makes a millionaire or billionaire is unfounded. I mentioned that instance because it was a sweet confirmation of the theory I had developed after studying the dark, hidden side of the world's financial system. A theory that is and will continue to be very useful in the world of trading.

                                                                    Keep tabs on what the Fed is 'buying up' in this bailout. And remember that they are getting it for free. With money that, since December 1913, they print. With money that, according to the Constitution, the government should be printing. And while doing so, ask yourself why the media are referring to the Fed as the 'government'...

                                                                    (Government bailout? I don't think so.)
                                                                    Dark Horse, if you called the peak; you literally could have made millions at least shorting the oil market. The question is why didn't you do it or did you? If so, Andy is right; you are socialist, so where is the money?

                                                                    Anyways, next time you see Bernanke pick his nose as a tip off let me know!
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                                                                    • daggerkobe
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 03-25-08
                                                                      • 10744

                                                                      #139
                                                                      Originally posted by andywend
                                                                      DaggerKobe, you didn't present any FACTS whatsoever to back up your ridiculous claims. You simply copied and pasted a piece written by a fellow socialist.

                                                                      In addition to you being the dumbest person on the face of the Earth, you're also a bigot and an anti-semite.

                                                                      Dwight, you know you really got under his skin when reading that response. Congrats to you once again.
                                                                      "There were lots of warnings."
                                                                      — Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld

                                                                      "This was not something that had to happen."
                                                                      "They simply failed."
                                                                      — Thomas H. Kean

                                                                      "They don't have any excuse because the information was in their lap, and they didn't do anything to prevent it."
                                                                      — Senator Richard Shelby

                                                                      "I don't believe any longer that it's a matter of connecting the dots. I think they had a veritable blueprint, and we want to know why they didn't act on it."
                                                                      — Senator Arlen Specter

                                                                      "Should we have known? Yes, we should have. Could we have known? Yes, I believe we could have because of the hard targets [CIA operatives were tracking]."
                                                                      — Representative Porter Goss

                                                                      "As of September 10th, each of us knew everything we needed to know to tell us there was a possibility of what happened on September 11th."
                                                                      — Assistant Attorney General Michael Chertoff

                                                                      "Had one human being or a common group of human beings sat down with all that information, we could have gotten to the hijackers before they flew those four airplanes either into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon or the ground of Pennsylvania."
                                                                      — Senator Bob Graham

                                                                      "If you put all those pieces together, I don't say you could have prevented September 11th, but there might have been some warning, had it been handled properly."
                                                                      — Vice President Dick Cheney


                                                                      Yeah, all leftist socialists quoted here. What a moron.


                                                                      Originally posted by andywend
                                                                      Lets assume for a moment that Daggerkobe and his left-wing lunacy is accurate and President Bush was the one who was responsible for manipulating the price of oil from $40 barrel up to almost $150 barrel last summer to enrich the oil companies.

                                                                      Why did Bush then allow the price of oil to drop right back down to $40 barrel only a few months later?

                                                                      If you're going to go through all the trouble of manipulating the multi-TRILLION dollar oil market, what would be the point of having the price of oil come crashing right back down in price so soon thereafter?

                                                                      In one breath, these brain-dead liberals call Bush the stupidest man on Earth and in the next breath they say he single-handedly manipulated the price of oil from $40 up to $150/barrel.

                                                                      You really are CLUELESS.

                                                                      The reason oil prices dropped last year is because of something called the RECESSION, moron. But just like you to ignore the guadrupling of gas prices from 2001-2008.


                                                                      Answer me this, moron......

                                                                      1. What happened to the price of barrel of oil after Dumbya purchased hundreds of millions of oil to filled up the Strategic Petroleum Reserve back in 2001? That's oil that would've otherwise have gone to us, the consumers. It boosted the price of barrel of oil from the $30s to the $50s overnight!!!!!!!

                                                                      2. What happened to the price of barrel of oil after Dumbya invaded Iraq and put 1.4 Million barrels of oil PER DAY offline?

                                                                      3. Why did Dumbya refuse to release any oil from the Strategic Petrolum Reserve to help lower gas prices?

                                                                      4. Why did Dumbya give $100,000 tax breaks to small business owners purchasing Hummers, Escalades and other gas guzzling SUVs?

                                                                      5. Why did Dumbya refuse to sign a mandate raising the MPG by just 1, which would've saved MILLIONS of barrels of oil per year?

                                                                      6. Why did the dollar's value dropping 50% result in higher gas prices? Clue: OPEC uses USD as their currency.


                                                                      THINK!!!!!!
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                                                                      • daggerkobe
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 03-25-08
                                                                        • 10744

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                                                        daggerkobe,

                                                                        Good luck trying to crack that Reich wing armor. You'll notice that they rarely, if ever, think for themselves. Typically, they get their opinions from talk show or television, which they then sing in unison, like a sect surrendered to a chant that requires not thought but dedication to the cause (whatever that cause might be). Ironically, in spite of their strongly held opinion, many of them would be communist in communist China, or nazi in nazi Germany. That's the problem with not thinking and surrendering oneself to propaganda. Remember that they don't question, but obey. They don't research, but believe.

                                                                        I admire Obama for trying to reach out to these drones, but if Mr. Limbaugh could convince his flock that he can part the Gulf of Mexico, and that they should all follow, good riddance...

                                                                        You know who these neonitwits remind me of? That character from The Matrix.... Cypher.

                                                                        They would rather live ignorant in a make-believe world than wake up and face the hardship of truth.

                                                                        The TRUTHS that they can't deal with:

                                                                        1. 9/11 would've been prevented had Dumbya done even minimal work. Instead he was busy playing golf and jogging in hot weather.

                                                                        2. Dumbya manipulated gas prices by filling up the SPR unnecessarily back in 2001; invading Iraq; refusing to release oil from SPR to lower gas prices; refusing to sign a mandate to raise MPG; De-valuing USD by 50% which hurt OPEC's buying power.

                                                                        3. Dumbya IGNORED the Subprime crisis by FIRING the Fannie Mae regulator who had warned him of the dangers.

                                                                        4. Neonitwit congress had NOTHING to do with the budget surplus of the 90s. It had everything to do with Clinton's tax hike, slashing military spending and NAFTA. The only thing the neonitwit congress did was NOT interfere.

                                                                        OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE TRUTH, NEONITWITS!!!!!!
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