This is why Clayton Kershaw should be NL MVP

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  • stevenash
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    • 01-17-11
    • 66073

    #1
    This is why Clayton Kershaw should be NL MVP
    Kershaw's LA Dodgers are 18 and 1 since June 1 when Kershaw makes a start.
    All other Dodger starters are 1 game over .500

    Don't give me starters can't win MVP awards.
    The operative word in MVP is 'valuable'

    Dodgers own a three game lead in the division, Kershaw is the reason for that.
    Which player, pitcher or otherwise is more valuable to their team then Kershaw is to LA?

    p.s. there is a reason virtually every book, online or brick and mortar why they took down NL Cy Young Award props.
  • Bostongambler
    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
    • 02-01-08
    • 35628

    #2
    Imagine if he didn't miss 6 weeks.
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    • jjgold
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 07-20-05
      • 388208

      #3
      He is amazing
      Rarely do they give both though

      Good case though
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      • t-wizzle
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        • 12-18-09
        • 38099

        #4
        Originally posted by Bostongambler
        Imagine if he didn't miss 6 weeks.
        He'd have had the best season by anyone in recent memory. Arguably better than one of those crazy good Pedro years from like 1999.
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        • stevenash
          Moderator
          • 01-17-11
          • 66073

          #5
          ^^
          Best season since 1968 Bob Gibson.
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          • crustyme
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 09-29-10
            • 16896

            #6
            stanton was the only other serious contender for mvp but no longer thanks to fiers.
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            • stevenash
              Moderator
              • 01-17-11
              • 66073

              #7
              Originally posted by crustyme
              stanton was the only other serious contender for mvp but no longer thanks to fiers.
              True, but Fiers wasn't head hunting like Colon was.
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              • pavyracer
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 04-12-07
                • 82659

                #8
                How much your teammate pitchers suck should not be a factor in MVP voting.

                It is quite possible the managers of opposing teams are resting some of their good players when facing Kershaw so they can have them fresh when facing the other mediocre Dodger pitchers and get a win.
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                • boeing power
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 03-23-10
                  • 9698

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  How much your teammate pitchers suck should not be a factor in MVP voting.

                  It is quite possible the managers of opposing teams are resting some of their good players when facing Kershaw so they can have them fresh when facing the other mediocre Dodger pitchers and get a win.
                  MVP....look up the meaning.
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                  • stevenash
                    Moderator
                    • 01-17-11
                    • 66073

                    #10
                    ^
                    I've learned to ignore him.
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                    • will2survive
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 11-26-09
                      • 8099

                      #11
                      Originally posted by stevenash
                      Kershaw's LA Dodgers are 18 and 1 since June 1 when Kershaw makes a start.
                      All other Dodger starters are 1 game over .500

                      Don't give me starters can't win MVP awards.
                      The operative word in MVP is 'valuable'

                      Dodgers own a three game lead in the division, Kershaw is the reason for that.
                      Which player, pitcher or otherwise is more valuable to their team then Kershaw is to LA?

                      p.s. there is a reason virtually every book, online or brick and mortar why they took down NL Cy Young Award props.
                      Kershaw's season is reminding me of a pitcher when I was a kid. Ron Guidry (Louisiana Lightning) ---was like 25-3 with a sub 2.00 ERA. Guy was unstoppable. Kershaw MVP for NL, Trout for AL. If Detroit had a better record, I'd give Victor Martinez the MVP
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                      • Jeffie
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-06-12
                        • 3428

                        #12
                        Whos even having a good season in the NL stanton? dude isnt even batting 300. Why would this even be up for debate Kershaw should get it and there isnt even a close 2nd.
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                        • str
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-12-09
                          • 11778

                          #13
                          Originally posted by stevenash
                          ^^
                          Best season since 1968 Bob Gibson.
                          Absolutely.
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                          • KRIT
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-11-14
                            • 12884

                            #14
                            There is no doubt Kershaw deserves it. Part of it is how good he has been, and how no one in the NL has really had a MVP caliber year.

                            Earlier this year I thought both Felix and Kershaw could win it, but Felix has tailed off a bit near the end of the year.
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                            • Dollars2Donuts
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 02-07-13
                              • 8803

                              #15
                              I am verging on saying that he should be the MVP, even though I HATE it. The only other time I would have voted for a pitcher was in 1997 when Randy Johnson went 20-4 and his team won the west by 6 games at 18 games over .500.

                              I am finally convinced.....but Verlander should not have won it in the AL....that still pisses me off.
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                              • pavyracer
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 04-12-07
                                • 82659

                                #16
                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                ^
                                I've learned to ignore him.
                                So you start a thread asking for opinions and only read the ones people pad you on the back and ignore others. Why do you even start the thread?
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                                • will2survive
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 11-26-09
                                  • 8099

                                  #17
                                  I agree about Bob Gibson due to his 1.12 ERA, but Ron Guidry's 1978 season is right up there.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 66073

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                    So you start a thread asking for opinions and only read the ones people pad you on the back and ignore others. Why do you even start the thread?
                                    1) No managers sit regulars against Kershaw, now, some will use a righty/lefty platoon, but no regulars.
                                    2) Most of your posts are non-sensical drivel, I said most, sometimes you post a few gems.
                                    3) I really don't need my e-back patted, not padded.
                                    4) The key stat I brought up was LA is 18-1 since June 1 when he starts, I was putting everything else in perspective by saying all other Dodger starters are 1 over .500
                                    5) All the other Dodger starters do not suck, their rotation is solid.
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 66073

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by will2survive
                                      I agree about Bob Gibson due to his 1.12 ERA, but Ron Guidry's 1978 season is right up there.
                                      You want to see a season?
                                      Dude made 8 starts alone in September and every one of them went the distance.
                                      Look at all the CG's. Remember, this was a 100 loss team (well 97 to be exact)

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                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-02-12
                                        • 19736

                                        #20
                                        well since g stanton's probably out for the season.

                                        it's kershaw now, no-brainer...
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                                        • Dollars2Donuts
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-07-13
                                          • 8803

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by stevenash
                                          You want to see a season?
                                          Dude made 8 starts alone in September and every one of them went the distance.
                                          Look at all the CG's. Remember, this was a 100 loss team (well 97 to be exact)

                                          http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...&t=p&year=1972
                                          Sick....especially when you realize that he lost 5 straight in May....remarkable.
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 66073

                                            #22
                                            ^
                                            Lefty had 2 complete 11 inning starts that year.
                                            Who does that?
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