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  • TheCentaur
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-28-11
    • 8108

    #1
    Daniel Colman 15 million poker tournament winner
    You may not have heard this guy's explanation for giving no interviews, and there's a reason

    Here it is:

    I really don't owe anyone an explanation but Ill give one...

    First off, I don't owe poker a single thing. I've been fortunate enough to benefit financially from this game, but I have played it long enough to see the ugly side of this world. It is not a game where the pros are always happy and living a fulfilling life. To have a job where you are at the mercy of variance can be insanely stressful and can lead to a lot of unhealthy habits. I would never in a million years recommend for someone to try and make it as a poker pro.

    It is also not a game where the amateurs are always happy to be losing their money for the sake of entertainment. The losers lose way more money at this game then winners are winning. A lot of this is money they cant afford to lose. This is fine of course because if someone is dumb enough to gamble with money they cant afford to lose, that's their problem. Im not really buying that though. In a perfect world, markets are based on informed consumers making rational transactions. In reality sadly that's not the case, markets are based on advertising trying to play on peoples impulses and targeting their weaknesses in order for them to make irrational decisions. I get it if someone wants to go and play poker on their own free will, but I don't agree with gambling being advertised just like I don't agree with cigarettes and alcohol being advertised.

    It bothers me that people care so much about poker's well being. As poker is a game that has such a net negative effect on the people playing it. Both financially and emotionally.

    As for promoting myself, I feel that individual achievements should rarely be celebrated. I am not going to take part in it for others and I wouldn't want it for myself. If you wonder why our society is so infatuated by individuals and their success, and being a baller, it is not that way for no reason. It is their because it serves a clear purpose. If you get people to look up to someone and adhere to the "gain wealth, forget all but self" motto, then you can get them to ignore the social contract which is very good for power systems. Also it serves as a means of distraction to get people to not pay attention to the things that do matter.

    These are just my personal views. And yes, I realize I am conflicted. I capitalize off this game that targets peoples weaknesses. I do enjoy it, I love the strategy part of it, but I do see it as a very dark game.

    Happy to read any ones opinions that could convince me otherwise of my views.




    I love that this guy refuses to sell out. I'm sure there was a lot of money in publicity or advertising from this, and he only got a small portion of the winnings because he was staked, but right or wrong he made a stance for what he believed in. It's also nice to see someone tell ESPN to stick it!
  • eidolon
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-02-08
    • 9531

    #2
    He was staked?
    If so, what percentage? Is it usually 50/50 for payout?
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    • MoneyLineDawg
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 01-01-09
      • 13253

      #3
      Good for him....hard to argue his points

      I know for one if I were ever fortunate enough to win one of these big tournaments, I would not want to be all over everything and at every poker event......Would rather be enjoying the winnings with friends and family and basically to not be bothered doing what I want to do
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      • Guinser
        SBR Sharp
        • 11-04-10
        • 461

        #4
        The guy is a tremendous douchebag. Talked so much shit online and thinks he's the worlds greatest and now tries coming off as high and mighty. Sure..
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        • thechaoz
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 10-23-09
          • 12154

          #5
          lol donate your money to charity then brah
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          • Cuse0323
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 12-09-09
            • 30169

            #6
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            • Djohns04
              SBR Sharp
              • 10-18-10
              • 323

              #7
              Originally posted by eidolon
              He was staked?
              If so, what percentage? Is it usually 50/50 for payout?
              It was 90/10 in favour of the backers from what i've read
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              • Djohns04
                SBR Sharp
                • 10-18-10
                • 323

                #8
                Centy I agree if he's being honest and true to himself than good on him. There's a part of me though that thinks he thought it would be really badass to just ship the $15 mil and peace out with no interviews, no hoopla, no Esfandiari style being hoisted like a trophy. Just act like it was no biggie. Then most of the poker community are outraged shocked etc and he needs to come up with a reason.
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                • spider
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 05-21-11
                  • 11378

                  #9
                  I wonder if he said the same things to his backers before they staked him.
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                  • bettingstation
                    SBR MVP
                    • 03-25-13
                    • 1084

                    #10
                    wow... i hope someone stake me that big tourney...
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                    • GUMMO77
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 08-23-10
                      • 9294

                      #11
                      Originally posted by bettingstation
                      wow... i hope someone stake me that big tourney...
                      Talk to this guy.

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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        guy is a fukkin jerkoff

                        lol..he will be broke in 3 years and begging for advertising ads
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                        • MoMoneyMoVaughn
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 05-08-14
                          • 14988

                          #13
                          Originally posted by jjgold
                          guy is a fukkin jerkoff

                          lol..he will be broke in 3 years and begging for advertising ads

                          A la Jared

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                          • TheCentaur
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 06-28-11
                            • 8108

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Guinser
                            The guy is a tremendous douchebag. Talked so much shit online and thinks he's the worlds greatest and now tries coming off as high and mighty. Sure..
                            Admittedly I don't know what all he has said and done, but seems like a talented, objective, humble guy in this interview:
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                            • daneblazer
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 09-14-08
                              • 27861

                              #15
                              I really don't owe anyone an explanation... but let me get on my fukkin soap box ....
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                              • Auto Donk
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 09-03-13
                                • 43558

                                #16
                                Originally posted by daneblazer
                                I really don't owe anyone an explanation... but let me get on my fukkin soap box ....
                                my thoughts exactly..... along with a comment by him, "hey, are those cameras running???"
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                                • TheCentaur
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-28-11
                                  • 8108

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by daneblazer
                                  I really don't owe anyone an explanation... but let me get on my fukkin soap box ....
                                  I took that as him saying he doesn't answer to ESPN and the gambling industry which is a position I like

                                  Yeah it's possible he was being a dick I guess
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                                  • daneblazer
                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                    • 09-14-08
                                    • 27861

                                    #18
                                    ESPN is one of the reasons the prize for this tournament is 15 mil and one of the reasons anyone gives a shit he won a poker tournament. If he doesn't want much attention, that's his thing, but he sounds like a pompous ingrate.
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                                    • Triple_D_Bet
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 12-12-11
                                      • 7626

                                      #19
                                      Sounds like a bit of a prick, another person who believes that when people make poor decisions it's not their fault, it's the fault of whatever activity happened to be used to make the poor decision. Wonder if this jackass realizes he has the exact same "blame-the-evil-companies-not-the-irresponsible-player" mentality so many ignorant politicians and activists have, leading to a shitty poker market in US?
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                                      • DrStale
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 12-07-08
                                        • 9692

                                        #20
                                        There is some validity to what he's saying, but arguing that poker in and of itself has "such a net negative effect on the people playing" is a huge overstatement. Sure this is probably true for many of those who are trying to grind out just enough winnings to get by, but for those who treat it as entertainment or diversion and who can afford to lose it's no worse than anything else.
                                        Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                        If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                        • Guinser
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 11-04-10
                                          • 461

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by TheCentaur
                                          Admittedly I don't know what all he has said and done, but seems like a talented, objective, humble guy in this interview:
                                          http://www.husng.com/content/intervi...ion-pokerstars
                                          Naturally when giving an interview he will say the right things. Clearly a great player but he's a cocky douche online
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                                          • The Giant
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 01-21-12
                                            • 21480

                                            #22
                                            This is old news.

                                            The tournament ended about a month ago.
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                                            • TheCentaur
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 06-28-11
                                              • 8108

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Giant
                                              This is old news.

                                              The tournament ended about a month ago.
                                              I know but it was just televised last night and no one mentioned it on here before I don't think
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                                              • jjgold
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388179

                                                #24
                                                Poker popularity has really dissipated the last three years and will continue to dissipate

                                                It's back to cult type sport in USA
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                                                • DiggityDaggityDo
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 11-30-08
                                                  • 81450

                                                  #25
                                                  And not a single emotion was given that day.

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                                                  • The Giant
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 01-21-12
                                                    • 21480

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by jjgold
                                                    Poker popularity has really dissipated the last three years and will continue to dissipate

                                                    It's back to cult type sport in USA
                                                    JJ, if sports gambling and poker were both suddenly legalized across the states, which do you think would be more popular?
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                                                    • Kaabee
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 01-21-06
                                                      • 2482

                                                      #27
                                                      i can tell you one thing: i'd rather watch paint dry than hang out with this guy.
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                                                      • El Nino
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 05-03-12
                                                        • 18426

                                                        #28
                                                        Guy is probably salty that after paying his backers and taxes he still can't buy himself in to next year's tourney. Waaaah wahhhh what a pompous dick head.
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                                                        • GunShard
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 03-05-10
                                                          • 10032

                                                          #29
                                                          Gambling addiction is similar to drug addiction. He's somewhat right.
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                                                          • Triple_D_Bet
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-12-11
                                                            • 7626

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by GunShard
                                                            Gambling addiction is similar to drug addiction. He's somewhat right.
                                                            Addiction is addiction, but he goes way beyond the bounds of reason. How difficult a person finds restraining themselves to be will vary, but at no point on the spectrum is it not their responsibility, and at no time is it the fault of the people/companies offering the service/product a person is addicted to. If Pokerstars forcibly transfers a gambling addict's paycheck to a poker account, maybe there's an argument there...but general advertising, promotions, or the existence of the service isn't something they should be held liable for just because some people can't control themselves. Comparing it to the previously deceptive cigarette marketing (where they knew it was harmful to everyone and presented it as harmless) is a gross misrepresentation.

                                                            Similarly, his contempt for individual achievements strikes me as not only hypocritical in an individual competition like poker, but just dumb. Celebrations of individual achievements isn't harmful or contributing to any "power structure"; it's recognition that someone has achieved something impressive, either relatively or absolutely, and can be a big part of giving people goals, confidence, etc. To claim they should rarely be celebrated is to be ignorant of basic mechanics of how people work. Blaming it for distracting people from more important issues is also foolish; are youtube cat videos, fail videos, music videos, etc. also something that should be rarely seen according to him, for fear of "distracting" us with the entertainment?
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