so nfl is experimenting with 35 yard extra point tries...

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  • Ghenghis Kahn
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    • 01-02-12
    • 19734

    #1
    so nfl is experimenting with 35 yard extra point tries...
    good for the books, bad for the sports bettors.
  • RavensFan2k3
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    • 08-18-12
    • 17378

    #2
    I think they should keep it
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    • innovation
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      • 01-27-12
      • 6218

      #3
      yep

      david Akers is on suicide watch.


      It's gunna jack everything up. More two point attempts.....missed attempts.......easy way to Fuk u out of a key number
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      • Ghenghis Kahn
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        • 01-02-12
        • 19734

        #4
        no pal, uncertainties benefit the books.
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        • playersonly69
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          • 01-04-08
          • 12827

          #5
          I love it! I bet unders!
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          • OptimistPrime
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            • 07-04-14
            • 268

            #6
            Should just get rid of field goal kicking all together. Never got where it all fit in with the game of football.
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            • pavyracer
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              • 04-12-07
              • 82843

              #7
              Yeah why kick the ball on a game call FOOTball?
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              • Ghenghis Kahn
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                • 01-02-12
                • 19734

                #8
                you drunk again pavy? settle down pal!!!

                he's talking about the extra point not the field goals.
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                • freeVICK
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                  • 01-21-08
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                  #9
                  Should be 50 yarders if you ask me
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                  • pavyracer
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                    • 04-12-07
                    • 82843

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                    you drunk again pavy? settle down pal!!!

                    he's talking about the extra point not the field goals.
                    I think you are drunk. He said get rid of FIELD GOALS.
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                    • Vinnie Paz
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                      • 03-27-12
                      • 12177

                      #11
                      I think saints kicker missed one last night . Like the idea
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                      • TheMoneyShot
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                        • 02-14-07
                        • 28672

                        #12
                        They should stick with it... unreal for the gamblers though. Going to cost someone big one day!
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                        • jjgold
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                          • 07-20-05
                          • 388179

                          #13
                          I like traditional football and let's stop trying to be like the CFL
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                          • RiverBoatGambler
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                            • 12-29-10
                            • 627

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                            good for the books, bad for the sports bettors.
                            Hey Einstein you realize this was decided a long time ago, right? Everyone knew about this new rule for pre-season.
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                            • Ralphie Halves
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                              • 12-13-09
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                              #15
                              They actually have been talking about getting rid of extra points altogether.

                              Honestly, nobody would miss it after awhile. It's like getting rid of the home plate collision. A few traditionalists were up in arms about it when they first got rid of it, now nobody gives a shit.

                              Extra points are about as exciting as a kneel-down. I wouldn't miss it at all. But a 35-yarder wouldn't be the worst thing int he world I guess. It would probably all but eliminate the chance of a fake though.
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                              • Bostongambler
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                                • 02-01-08
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                                #16
                                Could help out as well
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                                • Renegades
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                                  • 10-12-11
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                                  #17
                                  Its dumb. Take the extra pt out, 7 pts for td and save 5 mins per game. Dont try to fix something thats not broken
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                                  • Mr KLC
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                                    • 12-19-07
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                                    #18
                                    Makes a part of the game that was a formality, into an incident that could actually decide a game. I'm all for it.
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                                    • smoke a bowl
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                                      • 02-09-09
                                      • 2776

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                      good for the books, bad for the sports bettors.
                                      Explain please?
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                                      • smoke a bowl
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                                        • 02-09-09
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Renegades
                                        Its dumb. Take the extra pt out, 7 pts for td and save 5 mins per game. Dont try to fix something thats not broken
                                        Was this 2 different people posting these 2 sentences?
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                                        • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                          • 01-02-12
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                          Explain please?
                                          just imagine td's sometimes being 6 points instead of 7. important numbers such as 3 and 7 won't be significant. think about it for a second, that's better for the books. more uncertainties a game has, it's better for the books. we cap games to determine the outcome. this added variable is extremely significant, imo...

                                          but the unders would be good since once you miss an extra point, it'll force the team to go for twos and two point conversion rate is like ~50%.
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                                          • JR007
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                                            • 02-21-10
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                                            #22
                                            better deal for the bettors....more like college football
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                                            • smoke a bowl
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                                              • 02-09-09
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                              just imagine td's sometimes being 6 points instead of 7. important numbers such as 3 and 7 won't be significant. think about it for a second, that's better for the books. more uncertainties a game has, it's better for the books. we cap games to determine the outcome. this added variable is extremely significant, imo...

                                              but the unders would be good since once you miss an extra point, it'll force the team to go for twos and two point conversion rate is like ~50%.
                                              The more variables the better for the good bettor. It's just a matter of understanding the rule change, and thinking logically how this will affect the game and act accordingly. All changes are good changes when it comes to gambling IMO because as bettors we should do a better job of quantifying change than our competition.
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                                              • JR007
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                                                • 02-21-10
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                                                #24
                                                yeah, I do not think the books will be able to post as efficient lines, ie 3,7,10,14....and could skew the totals numbers as well, 34,37, 44, etc etc.
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                                                • The Giant
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                                                  • 01-21-12
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                                                  #25
                                                  Is this only a preseason thing? When will they determine if it's a go or not?
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                                                  • smoke a bowl
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                                                    • 02-09-09
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by The Giant
                                                    Is this only a preseason thing? When will they determine if it's a go or not?
                                                    Just the 1st 2 weeks of preseason.
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                                                    • The Giant
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                                                      • 01-21-12
                                                      • 21480

                                                      #27
                                                      Thanks, Smokey.
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                                                      • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                        • 01-02-12
                                                        • 19734

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by smoke a bowl
                                                        The more variables the better for the good bettor. It's just a matter of understanding the rule change, and thinking logically how this will affect the game and act accordingly. All changes are good changes when it comes to gambling IMO because as bettors we should do a better job of quantifying change than our competition.
                                                        i don't know where you can find the data but all those missed extra point in the past has screwed up the spread one way or another.

                                                        we'll what happens if they do change it but i'm not a fan of more variables...
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                                                        • marcoloco
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                                                          • 07-05-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          I like the idea
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                                                          • smoke a bowl
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                                                            • 02-09-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                            i don't know where you can find the data but all those missed extra point in the past has screwed up the spread one way or another.

                                                            we'll what happens if they do change it but i'm not a fan of more variables...
                                                            Sure it does but I don't see why just as many won't go in your favor as against you. Don't see why it's an edge for the book. It might be an edge for the strong bettor vs the weak bettor(biggest misconception in the sports gambling world is that it's the bettor vs the book. The harsh reality is it's the bettor vs the bettor the book just manages the position based on the bettors.)but it shouldn't give any xtra adv to the book imo.
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                                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 19734

                                                              #31
                                                              well the books will be happy since there will be less pushes.
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                                                              • MUHerd37
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                                                                • 10-23-09
                                                                • 12816

                                                                #32
                                                                I like the idea. They need to make all field goals minimum of 35 tho. Why do teams have to kick 35 yarders for 1 point but can still kick field goals closer?
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