Cavs gave up way too much for Love

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  • jtoler
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    • 12-17-13
    • 30967

    #36
    I like Bennett always have, like his talent, not sure why so many sh!t on him, still very young. I dont think people actually watch, they just listen to others and the media.
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    • capone1899
      SBR MVP
      • 06-16-11
      • 1054

      #37
      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
      oden is due to injuries. the guy would've been a pretty good player.

      .

      Laugh out f-ing loud
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      • existential
        SBR MVP
        • 07-21-14
        • 2963

        #38
        Bennett (who is trash) will be moved to Philly for Thaddeus Young, so Wiggins, Young, and another 1st rounder for Minny is a pretty decent haul for the Wolves.

        Philly will be tanking again for at least another season or two.
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        • nikossf
          SBR MVP
          • 03-02-10
          • 2217

          #39
          Originally posted by laclippers504
          Agreed. All for a guy that's hasn't ever played in a playoff game.

          What LeBron wants, LeBron gets.
          I Second this OP.. well said....
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          • meader99
            SBR MVP
            • 10-30-10
            • 4223

            #40
            Originally posted by d2bets
            Very well could. On paper they really look better and deeper than the 62-20 team.
            If they win 60+ it will be because Thibs runs them into the ground and they wont have anything in the tank come playoffs when the games count. Hopefully Thibs can adjust to the depth he has and utilize it.
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            • thechaoz
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-23-09
              • 12154

              #41
              Win now
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              • jjgold
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 07-20-05
                • 388179

                #42
                Cavs do not get to Eastern Finals


                Not ready yet
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                • STAX
                  SBR MVP
                  • 11-01-13
                  • 3718

                  #43
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Cavs do not get to Eastern Finals


                  Not ready yet
                  ill bet you my house they do
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                  • zam77
                    SBR MVP
                    • 11-03-10
                    • 3586

                    #44
                    I was super enamored by the situation with Lebron coming back to team up with Wiggles because of all of their similar background hype and such... that would have been really intriguing to watch grow into something special... but oh well... now i just say fuk it.

                    The people of C-town will enjoy the deeeee heyelllll out of this superstar team... if this turns out to be a 3 or more year multiple championship team and possibly even a dynasty for next 5 years, it could feel for Cleveland fans like what Chicago had during Jordan Era. No guarantees, but that's the the kind of city we are... Cleveland is mini Chicago and people are a lot alike. I love Chicago and think they have awesome fans and a great city... C-town fans will not take this for granted. City will thrive and people will enjoy life more because of it.

                    No way anyone can play this trade down for Cavs. This team could seriously win 4 straight titles... or none... we shall see. That said I still really loved the idea of it happening with homegrowns... just seemed like a really unique opportunity for a sports team to have 4 number one draft picks starting career with same team becoming a sports storyline... oh well, I'll Love... I mean live.

                    On a side note... Uncle Drew commercial with Love and The Lebrons might be coming soon. That could be pretty sweet.
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82845

                      #45
                      A first rounder in 2015 will probably be 29th pick. Not a big loss.
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                      • EaglesPhan36
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 12-06-06
                        • 71662

                        #46
                        Cavs raped Minnesota on this one. I'm a big KU fan. Wiggins might be good in 2-3 years in the right system, but he never showed the needed aggressiveness to be the top dog. At KU, he was supposed to be the man, but he shrunk on many occasions. Not a good shooter yet. He's basically an athlete who can run, dunk and get to the hoop if so inclined. Maybe that means he fits in perfect in the shitball that is the NBA.

                        Bennett? WTF did he do last year? Hell WTF did he do in college? He had one "decent" season and parlayed it into millions on "potential" ... he's basically the poster boy for why the NBA sucks dikk. Drafting on "potential" ... I'd make the this deal 11 times out of 10 if I was Cleveland.

                        If you ask any GM if they'd trade tomorrow's potential for a chance to win NOW, they'd move on that deal in a heartbeat. Wiggins and Bennett could be legit studs for ten years or they could be absolute shit. With Lebron + Love in a horse shit Conference, you're the top contender.
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                        • existential
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-21-14
                          • 2963

                          #47
                          Love and Kyrie are two of the worst defenders in the league at their positions
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                          • jjgold
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 07-20-05
                            • 388179

                            #48
                            time will tell

                            I say Cleve wins like 48 games
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                            • meader99
                              SBR MVP
                              • 10-30-10
                              • 4223

                              #49
                              Originally posted by jjgold
                              time will tell

                              I say Cleve wins like 48 games
                              Uhmmmm......didn't LeBron win 66 games in Cleveland with far less talent?
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                              • KRIT
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-11-14
                                • 12878

                                #50
                                This is the NBA we are talking about. Nothing makes sense.
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                                • BigDeem5
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-26-11
                                  • 17191

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by FlipsideRM
                                  Wiggins, Bennett, and a 1st rounder in 2015?

                                  Thats two #1 picks and a future first rounder for a guy who's never even made the playoffs. Love is obviously a proven player in the league but Wiggins ceiling was through the roof, add Bennett and the other first rounder on top and this is a shit deal. Wiggins could have set this team up for the future even after Lebron
                                  First off - the first rounder in 2015 will be the #30th pick ( nothing)

                                  So they gave up Bennett / Wiggins...

                                  Bennett is fat and can't shoot.

                                  Wiggins COULD be a star.

                                  Give me the STAR
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                                  • STAX
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 11-01-13
                                    • 3718

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by BigDeem5
                                    First off - the first rounder in 2015 will be the #30th pick ( nothing)

                                    So they gave up Bennett / Wiggins...

                                    Bennett is fat and can't shoot.

                                    Wiggins COULD be a star.

                                    Give me the STAR
                                    I agree, but I just hope to God this doesn't burn us somehow... Please stay healthy Love, and don't turn into Bosh for Christ's sake... I don't care how good Wiggins gets, just give me a title, more than one would be nice, but just give me the one. If Wiggins becomes a star (I think he will be), and Cavs do NOT win it all (I think they will at least twice), then this will be another chapter in Cleveland futility.
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                                    • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 05-29-08
                                      • 9285

                                      #53
                                      I just hate what the NBA has become. A league where athletes commingle between each other to build all-star teams. A league where teams like the wolves are forced to trade love because he won't resign. Nba champions were never built overnight like what is possible now. I'm just happy my Spurs won last year to prove you can still win the right way.
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                                      • jsmithj88
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-27-08
                                        • 3591

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                        I just hate what the NBA has become. A league where athletes commingle between each other to build all-star teams. A league where teams like the wolves are forced to trade love because he won't resign. Nba champions were never built overnight like what is possible now. I'm just happy my Spurs won last year to prove you can still win the right way.
                                        u mean david robinson + duncun werent superstars??
                                        duncun+manu+parker didnt form a big3???
                                        i love the way the spurs played, but lets not forget
                                        it took them 7 years to finally win another title

                                        not every1 is lucky to have
                                        a HOF coach
                                        david robinson, then manu, tony parker, etc etc as teammates for over a decade
                                        incredible front office
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                                        • GunShard
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-05-10
                                          • 10032

                                          #55
                                          Let's see if giving up Wiggins for Love was worth it in the long run.
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                                          • stevenash
                                            Moderator
                                            • 01-17-11
                                            • 65730

                                            #56
                                            Like Steve Nash?

                                            Originally posted by PaperTrail07
                                            I mean not every player that appears they are going to be great is...and vice versa....
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                                            • stevenash
                                              Moderator
                                              • 01-17-11
                                              • 65730

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by existential
                                              Love and Kyrie are two of the worst defenders in the league at their positions
                                              Love, according to all defensive metrics is a middle of the pack defender.

                                              Miggy in MLB gets the same rap. People crap all over Cabrera' defense too, he's not a gold glover, but like Love, his defense isn't all that bad either.

                                              I remember one Griz game Love locked down Ridy Gay for like 3 for 14 from the floor. He ain't that bad.
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                                              • kidcudi92
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 12-14-11
                                                • 15434

                                                #58
                                                this is Miami all over again
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                                                • hawkwind
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-25-11
                                                  • 4071

                                                  #59
                                                  All we need is LOVE so the lyrics go I think Lennon has it right!
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                                                  • jtoler
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 12-17-13
                                                    • 30967

                                                    #60
                                                    I love all the Bennett hate, I guarantee you if he gets the right minutes in this league he will shine.
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                                                    • d2bets
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                                                      • 08-10-05
                                                      • 39995

                                                      #61
                                                      Sounds like Bennett will be redirected to Philly while Minny gets Thaddeus Young. Deal gets even better for Minny while Philly continues to try to lose.

                                                      Wolves might even contend for a playoff spot.
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                                                      • bradthebloke
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-26-09
                                                        • 3175

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                        u mean david robinson + duncun werent superstars??
                                                        duncun+manu+parker didnt form a big3???
                                                        i love the way the spurs played, but lets not forget
                                                        it took them 7 years to finally win another title

                                                        not every1 is lucky to have
                                                        a HOF coach
                                                        david robinson, then manu, tony parker, etc etc as teammates for over a decade
                                                        incredible front office
                                                        no they didnt, all drafted by same team. big difference from NBA today.
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                                                        • jsmithj88
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 12-27-08
                                                          • 3591

                                                          #63
                                                          uhhh......... since we are looking at simantics, let me rephrase ............
                                                          duncun+manu+parker arent a big three?
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                                                          • Ghenghis Kahn
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-02-12
                                                            • 19734

                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                            uhhh......... since we are looking at simantics, let me rephrase ............
                                                            duncun+manu+parker arent a big three?
                                                            are you talking 5 years ago or today?

                                                            duncan and ginobili both have passed their primes.

                                                            they won the championship because of awesome team play not because those three guys.

                                                            just look at who won the finals mvp.
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                                                            • Ghenghis Kahn
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                                                              • 01-02-12
                                                              • 19734

                                                              #65
                                                              oh and their coach is pretty good...
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                                                              • bradthebloke
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 07-26-09
                                                                • 3175

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by jsmithj88
                                                                uhhh......... since we are looking at simantics, let me rephrase ............
                                                                duncun+manu+parker arent a big three?

                                                                No, they arent.
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                                                                • stevenash
                                                                  Moderator
                                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                                  • 65730

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by d2bets

                                                                  Wolves might even contend for a playoff spot.
                                                                  Not with Rubio running the point
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                                                                  • jsmithj88
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 12-27-08
                                                                    • 3591

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by bradthebloke
                                                                    No, they arent.
                                                                    hahaha, yea ok
                                                                    all 3 will be in the HOF, won multiple titles, and individual awards
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                                                                    • STAX
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-01-13
                                                                      • 3718

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                      are you talking 5 years ago or today?

                                                                      duncan and ginobili both have passed their primes.

                                                                      they won the championship because of awesome team play not because those three guys.

                                                                      just look at who won the finals mvp.
                                                                      No one is taking anything away from what the Spurs have done in the last 15 years... truly one of the few dynasties in NBA history. I love the Spurs and how they play team ball. Itll be interesting when we meet in the finals...
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                                                                      • jsmithj88
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-27-08
                                                                        • 3591

                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn
                                                                        are you talking 5 years ago or today?

                                                                        duncan and ginobili both have passed their primes.

                                                                        they won the championship because of awesome team play not because those three guys.

                                                                        just look at who won the finals mvp.
                                                                        yes, in the past
                                                                        since u mentioned the past, u already recognized their existence
                                                                        the point is, the ballyhooed team spurs won titles in many forms
                                                                        they won with the superstar model, they won with big3 model, they won with team model
                                                                        there is no "right" way or watever the hell that means
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