I'd love getting paid in actual cash and I don't live in nevada or know anyone there that can bet for me so that's not possible at this time. Is that even legal to bet for someone else? Is anyone here currently doing something like that and is it working out?
Easiest way to place bets in Vegas? Thinking about a runner
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gamblingisfunSBR Sharp
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#1Easiest way to place bets in Vegas? Thinking about a runnerTags: None -
FishheadSBR Aristocracy- 08-11-05
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#2Bearding is illegal on the beards end.....Comment -
gamblingisfunSBR Sharp
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#3I was reading somewhere that it might not be illegal if the person betting has some money in the bet as well, that makes it a partnershipComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#4federal offense
DO NOT DOComment -
Big BearSBR Aristocracy- 11-01-11
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#5is it really a federal offense?Originally posted by jjgoldfederal offense
DO NOT DO
if so that is crazy.
why worry about some dude having a runner?Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#6interstate gambling...
Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering knowingly uses a wire communication facility for the transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of bets or wagers or information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers on any sporting event or contest, or for the transmission of a wire communication which entitles the recipient to receive money or credit as a result of bets or wagers, or for information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or botComment -
GPSBR Wise Guy
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#7...Comment -
smitch124SBR Posting Legend
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#8Isn't this the online gambling law? What does it have to do with running in Vegas?Originally posted by jjgoldinterstate gambling...
Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering knowingly uses a wire communication facility for the transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of bets or wagers or information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers on any sporting event or contest, or for the transmission of a wire communication which entitles the recipient to receive money or credit as a result of bets or wagers, or for information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or botComment -
rm18SBR Posting Legend
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#9Lol and not to mention jj sayng he was bearding in other posts through the yearsComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#10the illegal part is the transfer of money across state lines for sports gambling outside of Nevada
If no money trades hands and the runner just making bets in Vegas its not illegalComment -
scumbagSBR MVP
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#11But the fact that you're out of state is what gets ya. Can't run a casino betting syndicate from anywhere other than NV. Even then you have to form these groups where the runners are investors to get around the messengering law.Originally posted by gamblingisfunI was reading somewhere that it might not be illegal if the person betting has some money in the bet as well, that makes it a partnershipComment -
vividjohn45SBR Hall of Famer
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#12Id do it if i got to wear a rabbi beard across state line.Comment -
James DSBR MVP
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#13Why have a runner Unless you are big big time. Four major books allow phone wagering . You could fly to vegas open accounts tie them to an ipad or iphone you have to leave in vegas. Then all your "runner" has to do is sit in his house and use the phone for bets . The money is in your name also so you are safe which is the most important thing.
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#14Most Vegas phone apps take a low maximum wagersComment -
James DSBR MVP
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#15Cantor doesn't blink when I bet 5k. I hear they don't blink for much higher either. William hill betting 3k isn't a problem and lifetime I am up there. How deep you think he wants to go? LOLOriginally posted by jjgoldMost Vegas phone apps take a low maximum wagers
Open your own accounts and have someone else bet is the safest and smartest way hands down. Your runner can't steal your money, they don't have to run around from book to book so expenses are low, it's just a simple phone call. You have access to four solid books in a 1 minute time span. Tell me a better solutionComment -
TheCentaurSBR Hall of Famer
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#16Fed alert
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TheMoneyShotBARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#17Must be Obama's handle
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#18It's highly illegal many people have gone to jail because it
Let's stop now and play by the rulesComment -
rkelly110BARRELED IN @ SBR!
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#19Well, I guess just about everyone here (from the US) will be going to jail for two years. 99% of us have offshore accounts. While in jail, we all will have our own "runners" placing our bets for us.Originally posted by jjgoldinterstate gambling...
Whoever being engaged in the business of betting or wagering knowingly uses a wire communication facility for the transmission in interstate or foreign commerce of bets or wagers or information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers on any sporting event or contest, or for the transmission of a wire communication which entitles the recipient to receive money or credit as a result of bets or wagers, or for information assisting in the placing of bets or wagers, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than two years, or bot
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jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#20you guys have zero clue
its a rookie thread with many rookies in it
many gambling busts directly tied to Vegas runners
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reedySBR Sharp
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#21Robert F 'penetrating' Kennedy
Let us know how it works out though.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#22Did more research this morning
Any electronic communication to Las Vegas/Nevada suggesting placing a bet is highly illegal and you will go to jail
Boys you better be carefulComment -
sbrhedgeSBR MVP
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#23+1Originally posted by TheCentaurFed alert
funny how this thread on running bets started when the surveillance was picked up 4 days agoComment -
gamblingisfunSBR Sharp
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#24I like it. Sounds like a great idea, they wouldn't know my voice from any other guys voice. But who's to say they can't steal my money? If they can log into the account couldn't they cash it out too? I'll just have to make some trusted friends next time I'm in Vegas. Also, if a phone is gonna be registered to me do I need to have an in state address?Originally posted by James DWhy have a runner Unless you are big big time. Four major books allow phone wagering . You could fly to vegas open accounts tie them to an ipad or iphone you have to leave in vegas. Then all your "runner" has to do is sit in his house and use the phone for bets . The money is in your name also so you are safe which is the most important thing.
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sbrhedgeSBR MVP
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#25Walter's runner at the M tried to steal 400K by pretending there was a robbery. Hard to find trustworthy people.Originally posted by gamblingisfunI like it. Sounds like a great idea, they wouldn't know my voice from any other guys voice. But who's to say they can't steal my money? If they can log into the account couldn't they cash it out too? I'll just have to make some trusted friends next time I'm in Vegas. Also, if a phone is gonna be registered to me do I need to have an in state address?
On the flip side, I wouldn't want to be a runner - if I get held up, I'm responsible for the money. What if there is a setup by the money guy?
Too many risks.Comment -
gamblingisfunSBR Sharp
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#26Ok, what if I had a friend in another country with legal access to a pinny account, could I give him/her plays to make with their own money, and then however they want to send me the money after it's all said and done has nothing to do with gambling. So technically it's not my money being gambled, just my advice/plays. Is that a legal possibility?Comment -
Russian RocketSBR Aristocracy
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#27yes it's legal...you become a what's called a sports consultant...or a toutOriginally posted by gamblingisfunOk, what if I had a friend in another country with legal access to a pinny account, could I give him/her plays to make with their own money, and then however they want to send me the money after it's all said and done has nothing to do with gambling. So technically it's not my money being gambled, just my advice/plays. Is that a legal possibility?
when you get the cash from your friend, you'd still have to explain to IRS where the money came from
not sure if you have to claim every money transfer, but if it's over 5K, the bank will automatically notify IRS for yaComment -
MoMoneyMoVaughnSBR Posting Legend
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#28But in this particular case, wouldn't the sports consulting essentially be a front for bearding?Originally posted by Russian Rocketyes it's legal...you become a what's called a sports consultant...or a tout
I am just assuming, by what the nature of the thread is, that you don't actually plan to become a legitimate tout.Comment -
Russian RocketSBR Aristocracy
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#29he is getting paid for an advice...nothing more than that reallyOriginally posted by MoMoneyMoVaughnBut in this particular case, wouldn't the sports consulting essentially be a front for bearding?
I am just assuming, by what the nature of the thread is, that you don't actually plan to become a legitimate tout.
his friend will be placing his own bet with his own money
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't see anything wrong with itComment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
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#30disaster waiting to happenOriginally posted by gamblingisfunOk, what if I had a friend in another country with legal access to a pinny account, could I give him/her plays to make with their own money, and then however they want to send me the money after it's all said and done has nothing to do with gambling. So technically it's not my money being gambled, just my advice/plays. Is that a legal possibility?
Love these guys
If your so good move to a legal area where you can place bets yourself
game overComment -
gamblingisfunSBR Sharp
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#31Well it would be my own money that I'd put up, I'd just have to have the trusted person use their money first so I wouldn't have to explain why I transferred a bunch of money to another country. And I'd pay it back if I lost.Comment -
gamblingisfunSBR Sharp
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#32Some things are more important than making money. I have a life, job, family, etc. I don't wanna just up and move away. Only make extra money reliably.Originally posted by jjgolddisaster waiting to happen
Love these guys
If your so good move to a legal area where you can place bets yourself
game overComment -
Plaza23SBR Hall of Famer
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#33Why would you need to leave the ipad or iphone in Las Vegas? Couldnt you take it with you and still place the bets? What is stopping someone from signing up for an account at one of those places and using their app to place bets?Originally posted by James DWhy have a runner Unless you are big big time. Four major books allow phone wagering . You could fly to vegas open accounts tie them to an ipad or iphone you have to leave in vegas. Then all your "runner" has to do is sit in his house and use the phone for bets . The money is in your name also so you are safe which is the most important thing.
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Russian RocketSBR Aristocracy
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#34Plaza, there is a great book by Andrew Carnegie, called "Think and Grow Rich"....I highly recommend itOriginally posted by Plaza23Why would you need to leave the ipad or iphone in Las Vegas? Couldnt you take it with you and still place the bets? What is stopping someone from signing up for an account at one of those places and using their app to place bets?Comment -
RealSlimShadySBR Hall of Famer
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#35The apps use the cell phone locator to make sure you're in nevada when placing wagers.Originally posted by Plaza23Why would you need to leave the ipad or iphone in Las Vegas? Couldnt you take it with you and still place the bets? What is stopping someone from signing up for an account at one of those places and using their app to place bets?Comment
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