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  • Sam Odom
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 10-30-05
    • 58063

    #1
    Blackjack (21) Question ?
    Ok.... you've been playing for hours , down 2,300.00 dollars - half drunk , tired and sleepy

    You think, "fuuk it!" -- Put your last $3K in the circle for one last bet

    You get a natural 21 A/Q - Blackjack

    Dealer shows Ace

    Do you take 'even money' or gamble and hope the dealer does not get a Blackjack also ?
  • mikmik
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 05-13-12
    • 5457

    #2
    Even money. Isn't the point of placing a wager is to win what you wagered? A bj is a bonus. Jmho
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    • GotGreek
      SBR Sharp
      • 01-14-14
      • 348

      #3
      thats a sick question, whats even sicker is i cant decide. A normal person would take the even and walk away up 700. Im sick just like the rest of you degenerates on this site, you i cant help but go for the extra 1500 and end up losing the rest of my money later on tilt.
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      • d2bets
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-10-05
        • 39995

        #4
        What if you had drawn 11 vs. dealer 6 with that last 3k? Never shove every possible (unless you got enough credit, I suppose).

        Oh, and let it ride.
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        • MoneyLineDawg
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-01-09
          • 13253

          #5
          The correct answer is to not take even money and let it ride....But I would argue that in this situation, there's a decent chance that you go busto if you end up getting a push.....Take the money and run away with a decent profit here as the profit outweighs your potential tilt/lose more factor

          If you are a robot with zero emotions let it ride
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          • uvarunthetable
            SBR Sharp
            • 02-15-12
            • 416

            #6
            Correct play is to not take the even money
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            • TheCentaur
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 06-28-11
              • 8108

              #7
              Ask the pit if you can take even money for like $400 just to fuk with em

              Securing some profit and sticking it to the suits is well worth the expected money lost by taking an even money portion
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              • Sam Odom
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 10-30-05
                • 58063

                #8
                Originally posted by TheCentaur


                Ask the pit if you can take even money for like $400 just to fuk with em


                Securing some profit and sticking it to the suits is well worth the expected money lost by taking an even money portion




                Why not... Many places will let you Double for less
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                • TheCentaur
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 06-28-11
                  • 8108

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Sam Odom


                  Why not... Many places will let you Double for less
                  Yes taking even money is the exact same thing as taking insurance, and you can take insurance for less, so you should be able to take even money for less. Watch them call the suit who calls somebody else who finally gives the ok and then you get to watch the dealer try to figure it out
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                  • nvrlose37
                    SBR MVP
                    • 06-01-12
                    • 2730

                    #10
                    If you don't care about the money it would depend on the count, if you don't take Insurance you don't take even money.

                    But tilt mode with the opportunity to win would probably yield the safer option.
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                    • mikmik
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 05-13-12
                      • 5457

                      #11
                      So why not not take even money. Then play the next two hands for 350 and hope to make make a run. No wonder there's a lot lot of broke fcuks in here.
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                      • TheCentaur
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 06-28-11
                        • 8108

                        #12
                        Originally posted by mikmik
                        So why not not take even money. Then play the next two hands for 350 and hope to make make a run. No wonder there's a lot lot of broke fcuks in here.
                        OK I will try

                        16 tens in a deck
                        36 non tens

                        Dealer will have a blackjack 16/52 = about 30% of the time

                        So 100% - 30% = 70% of the time you win 4500

                        .7 x $4500 = $3150 which is greater than $3000 (even money)

                        You are giving away over $100 every time you take even money in this situation
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                        • floridagolfer
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-19-08
                          • 2757

                          #13
                          You've been playing for hours, things aren't going your way and you have a sure-fire way to walk away with $700 in your pocket.

                          The idea is to leave WITH money, not play until you give it back. Take the even money and don't look back. This is an easy question.
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                          • Sam Odom
                            SBR Aristocracy
                            • 10-30-05
                            • 58063

                            #14
                            Interesting Guys...

                            We have all heard of 'Situational Ethics' -- So we have 'Situational Strategy' now
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                            • Seaweed
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 01-19-12
                              • 26318

                              #15
                              i would stand
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                              • LVHerbie
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-15-05
                                • 6344

                                #16
                                Originally posted by floridagolfer
                                You've been playing for hours, things aren't going your way and you have a sure-fire way to walk away with $700 in your pocket.

                                The idea is to leave WITH money, not play until you give it back. Take the even money and don't look back. This is an easy question.
                                Degen logic - check into GA pal...
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                                • floridagolfer
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-19-08
                                  • 2757

                                  #17
                                  This is the problem with 99 percent of gamblers; they don't recognize it when a sure things hits them in the face.
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                                  • jjgold
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 07-20-05
                                    • 388179

                                    #18
                                    Any true gambler lets it ride Sammy

                                    Edge with player
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                                    • Sam Odom
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-30-05
                                      • 58063

                                      #19
                                      The coach has spoken...
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                                      • sourtwist
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-10-12
                                        • 9364

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                        Any true gambler lets it ride Sammy

                                        Edge with player
                                        And thats why every true gambler goes broke over and over again
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                                        • tony_come
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 03-31-10
                                          • 21695

                                          #21
                                          Even money sammmmy
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                                          • RGG
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-11-11
                                            • 1045

                                            #22
                                            I say go for it.
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                                            • Sam Odom
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-30-05
                                              • 58063

                                              #23
                                              We have a diverse community here at SBR...
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                                              • The Giant
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 01-21-12
                                                • 21480

                                                #24
                                                This is thought-provoking.

                                                I never take even money, but in this case I probably would.

                                                Give the dealer a tip, and head home.
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                                                • Cuse0323
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                  • 30169

                                                  #25
                                                  Fck that, I'll never take even money.
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                                                  • Seaweed
                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                    • 01-19-12
                                                    • 26318

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by The Giant
                                                    This is thought-provoking.

                                                    I never take even money, but in this case I probably would.

                                                    Give the dealer a tip, and head home.
                                                    Pure class.
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                                                    • Sam Odom
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 10-30-05
                                                      • 58063

                                                      #27
                                                      Sammy is thinking those saying 'let it ride' in this thread would have 2nd thoughts in a REAL LIFE scenario as depicted in OP
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                                                      • LVHerbie
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 09-15-05
                                                        • 6344

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by jjgold
                                                        Any true gambler lets it ride Sammy

                                                        Edge with player
                                                        Come on Coach you know a pro would never goes all-in* in the first place...





                                                        *unless betting both sides of the same game to end a losing streak, tomorrow is collection day, child support is due, or a Super Bowl or NBA series bet catches our eyes...
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                                                        • SeanL69
                                                          SBR Hustler
                                                          • 05-31-14
                                                          • 60

                                                          #29
                                                          I quit playing blackjack after I got a pair of 7's, split em' and got another 7. Split em'. This continued until I had 4 hands, $50 on each. I got ANOTHER 7, I tried to split a 5th time and the dealer informed me I could not split again, that I had reached the maximum. I went on to lose all 4 hands. Who knows what would have happened if I had been permitted to split again. This was at Bill's btw.

                                                          The casino games keeps these places in business. The sportsbook is the only place you can hurt em'!!!!!
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                                                          • thetrinity
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 01-25-11
                                                            • 22431

                                                            #30
                                                            i feel dumber for reading this and then posting here

                                                            you are better then this odom
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                                                            • nvrlose37
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 06-01-12
                                                              • 2730

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by SeanL69
                                                              I quit playing blackjack after I got a pair of 7's, split em' and got another 7. Split em'. This continued until I had 4 hands, $50 on each. I got ANOTHER 7, I tried to split a 5th time and the dealer informed me I could not split again, that I had reached the maximum. I went on to lose all 4 hands. Who knows what would have happened if I had been permitted to split again. This was at Bill's btw.

                                                              The casino games keeps these places in business. The sportsbook is the only place you can hurt em'!!!!!
                                                              I think three is the max at most places honestly.
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                                                              • manny24
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-22-07
                                                                • 20046

                                                                #32
                                                                you are all invited to Manny's Spanish 21.org

                                                                promo code: hamburglars
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                                                                • ParlayininHTown
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 06-27-10
                                                                  • 7561

                                                                  #33
                                                                  I'd let it ride.

                                                                  If I lose, big fukking deal.

                                                                  This is all pointless anyway.
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                                                                  • Cheme82
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-03-08
                                                                    • 7823

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Let it ride then give $400 to the dealer and $100 to the girl in the cage. You'll make their day and you walk away with almost 2k in profit plus a nice buzz.

                                                                    If he has it then you can say "penetrate my life!" and leave the bet there. When he beats you on the next one you can say "penetrate my life!" even louder before you leave.

                                                                    P.S. Never bet all the money you have, I always keep enough to tip the dealer. It's not the dealer's fault I decided to walk into a -EV situation.
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                                                                    • killawookie
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 12-25-09
                                                                      • 3457

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Degen play is going all in.. aka tilt. The only answer is the degen one.. let it ride.
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