Are People actually Dumb enough to believe the NBA is Rigged?

[The Kraken]

Breaking news, Donald Sterling was actually talking about Riggers. He didn't want Viv to be seen with riggers. Wow, complete game changer out there in LA

[SpreadSniper]

22 down, 28 to go.... I knew this thread would live to see 50. I just knew it.

Question - which group of losers has more time on their hands and obviously nothing better to do?

A) The moron conspiracy theorists.

B) The moron anti-conspiracy theorists.

There's enough stupid going on in this thread to lower the collective IQ of this entire community. Everyone in this thread should enter into one big suicide pact. I gotta shit-ton of koolaid if you guys wanna come hang out for a couple minutes?

[Eddy Munny]

I'd just like for somebody from the "magnetic balls and rim" camp to step forward and explain to me how that all really works.

I could use a set-up like that for the driveway.

[Eddy Munny]

Breaking news, Donald Sterling was actually talking about Riggers. He didn't want Viv to be seen with riggers. Wow, complete game changer out there in LA

Rigga please...

[cane]

You are just refering to the NBA im assuming,because the NFL and NHL very rarely have the two top teams meet in the final. For instance
who would have picked the NY Rangers to be in the Stanley Cup Final this year.

Yes, I'm talking basketball.

[cane]

If you want to know what I thought of the fourth quarter, I think the Celtics got hosed on some calls, no question about it. I thought the refs did a terrible job. Now, let me ask you this, if the game was fixed, then why did the refs wait until the end of the game to start cheating? Why would they wait that long to start fixing the game? Also, like I posted earlier if you think game seven was fixed, then you must also think game six was fixed, the Celtics were up 3-2, so if they win game six, the series is over. Since I answered your question, I expect you'll do the same. Also, full disclosure, I'm a huge Celtics fan, I was heartbroken when they lost that series.

jtoler, I'm waiting for your response to my two questions. Why did the refs wait until the end of game seven to start screwing the Celtics? And do you think game six was fixed? Since the Celtics had a 3-2 lead, if they won game six, the series would have been over, so they must have fixed game six as well, right?

[The Kraken]

Rigga please...

Das racist

[sballen]

jtoler, I'm waiting for your response to my two questions. Why did the refs wait until the end of game seven to start screwing the Celtics? And do you think game six was fixed? Since the Celtics had a 3-2 lead, if they won game six, the series would have been over, so they must have fixed game six as well, right?

Yes the conspiracy theorists generally go radio silent when confronted with legitimate questions. They were all saying game 6 was going to be rigged in okc's favor. Once they lost i started multiple threads to point out their idiocy and not one of those pu$$ies had the balls to admit they were wrong. They're worthless and idiotic scum.

[jtoler]

jtoler, I'm waiting for your response to my two questions. Why did the refs wait until the end of game seven to start screwing the Celtics? And do you think game six was fixed? Since the Celtics had a 3-2 lead, if they won game six, the series would have been over, so they must have fixed game six as well, right?

I dont remember Game 6 much, Id have to go back and watch the game, but just looking at the score it seems fishy, Celtics losing by 22 on their home floor in a closeout game for an NBA Championship, yea right, Id be willing to bet I find that game fishy also.

[The Giant]

I dont remember Game 6 much, Id have to go back and watch the game, but just looking at the score it seems fishy, Celtics losing by 22 on their home floor in a closeout game for an NBA Championship, yea right, Id be willing to bet I find that game fishy also.

Game six wasn't in Boston.

If you conspiracy nutjobs are going to make wild accusations, at least get the stuff that's without question accurate, accurate.

[The Kraken]

Believing the NBA is rigged is similar to believing in a higher power. Lot's of speculation, assumptions and faith to fill in the gaps where common sense to seem to bridge the voids.

[jtoler]

Game six wasn't in Boston.
If you conspiracy nutjobs are going to make wild accusations, at least get the stuff that's without question accurate, accurate.

See, shows how much I remember about that game. Still, 22 pts in a closeout had to be the largest they lost by all season.

[jtoler]

Believing the NBA is rigged is similar to believing in a higher power. Lot's of speculation, assumptions and faith to fill in the gaps where common sense to seem to bridge the voids.

Only a fool would totally deny either.

[jtoler]

I was watching this game live and almost threw up, even the Lakers know the refs made them win. After the game Kobe was being interviewed by TNT and he looked them straight in the eye and said I have idea how we won that with raised shoulders, horrible 4th quarter to watch.

I said TNT, it was NBA TV. A totally humbled sounding Kobe, like when you receive something great, but know you dont deserve it, like winning something by default, you dont really have the overall winning feeling because the reward has been tampered with. His very first statement sums up the entire Game 7 experience.

[cane]

See, shows how much I remember about that game. Still, 22 pts in a closeout had to be the largest they lost by all season.

Being a Celtic fan, I do remember the game. The Celtics lost because Kendrick Perkins blew out a knee early in the game, they never recovered after that, it's also a big reason they lost game seven as well. But I'm sure this won't mean anything to you. You see they got blown out, so naturally the game had to be fixed. Believe whatever you want, facts be damned.

[44 Mag]

FOR THE LAST TIME, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE END THIS STUPID USELESS THREAD!!!! PLEASE!!!!

[jtoler]

Being a Celtic fan, I do remember the game. The Celtics lost because Kendrick Perkins blew out a knee early in the game, they never recovered after that, it's also a big reason they lost game seven as well. But I'm sure this won't mean anything to you. You see they got blown out, so naturally the game had to be fixed. Believe whatever you want, facts be damned.

Id have to see how the game was called in Game 6. You already said Celts got hosed in Game 7 by the refs now youre saying its because of Perkins absence, hmm.

[Cuse0323]

FOR THE LAST TIME, WILL SOMEBODY PLEASE END THIS STUPID USELESS THREAD!!!! PLEASE!!!!

[cane]

Id have to see how the game was called in Game 6. You already said Celts got hosed in Game 7 by the refs now youre saying its because of Perkins absence, hmm.

Yes I thought the Celtics were on the short end of some bad calls, I thought the refs gave the Lakers some very questionable calls. However, that doesn't mean I think the refs fixed the game, it just means I thought the refs made some bad calls that happened to go against Boston. I watch a lot of basketball and I see plenty of bad calls every game, but that doesn't mean the game is being rigged, it just means that sometimes the referees are really bad at their jobs. You on the other hand seem to think every time there's a bad call made, it's got to be rigged, how else could the ref miss that call unless he did it on purpose, I don't believe that. Last night the refs missed an obvious goaltending call near the end of the game. After seeing the replay, my initial reaction was, wow it sucks for the Spurs that the refs missed that call, I'm sure your initial reaction was, see they missed the call, the fix must be in. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Referees are human, they are going to make bad calls and miss some others, they're human, not robots.

[jtoler]

Yes I thought the Celtics were on the short end of some bad calls, I thought the refs gave the Lakers some very questionable calls. However, that doesn't mean I think the refs fixed the game, it just means I thought the refs made some bad calls that happened to go against Boston. I watch a lot of basketball and I see plenty of bad calls every game, but that doesn't mean the game is being rigged, it just means that sometimes the referees are really bad at their jobs. You on the other hand seem to think every time there's a bad call made, it's got to be rigged, how else could the ref miss that call unless he did it on purpose, I don't believe that. Last night the refs missed an obvious goaltending call near the end of the game. After seeing the replay, my initial reaction was, wow it sucks for the Spurs that the refs missed that call, I'm sure your initial reaction was, see they missed the call, the fix must be in. I've said it before, I'll say it again. Referees are human, they are going to make bad calls and miss some others, they're human, not robots.

You shouldnt put words in my mouth because I never said that. Only the blind wouldnt know that the refs were heavily favoring the Lakers in the 4th quarter to win that game, really isnt any other way. I didnt need Rob Kardashian to tell me it was rigged, all I had to do was watch it. Wasnt because the refs were bad at their jobs for that particular day, it was because they handed the game and the title to the Lakers.

So to set the record straight do you believe there is no biasness or trying to ensure a win for a team by refs never goes on in the NBA?

[cane]

You shouldnt put words in my mouth because I never said that. Only the blind wouldnt know that the refs were heavily favoring the Lakers in the 4th quarter to win that game, really isnt any other way. I didnt need Rob Kardashian to tell me it was rigged, all I had to do was watch it. Wasnt because the refs were bad at their jobs for that particular day, it was because they handed the game and the title to the Lakers.

So to set the record straight do you believe there is no biasness or trying to ensure a win for a team by refs never goes on in the NBA?

We'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm not changing your mind, and you're not changing mine, you believe whatever you want and I'll do the same. If you want to know if I think sometimes refs have biasis, without putting a lot of thought into it, I'd say yea, I think on certain occasions there are some refs who for whatever reason might not like a particular player, let's say a certain player is always bitching to a particular ref after every call made against him whether it's a foul or travelling or whatever, this player is always bitching. So maybe if there's a tough call, was it a block or a charge, then that ref, who's always being yelled at by one certain player might make the call against him, just because he's always a pain in his ass. Like I said, refs are human and prone to either like or dislike a certain player on occasion, but there's a long way between what I just posted and saying the league is rigging games in the NBA finals.

[jtoler]

We'll just have to agree to disagree, I'm not changing your mind, and you're not changing mine, you believe whatever you want and I'll do the same. If you want to know if I think sometimes refs have biasis, without putting a lot of thought into it, I'd say yea, I think on certain occasions there are some refs who for whatever reason might not like a particular player, let's say a certain player is always bitching to a particular ref after every call made against him whether it's a foul or travelling or whatever, this player is always bitching. So maybe if there's a tough call, was it a block or a charge, then that ref, who's always being yelled at by one certain player might make the call against him, just because he's always a pain in his ass. Like I said, refs are human and prone to either like or dislike a certain player on occasion, but there's a long way between what I just posted and saying the league is rigging games in the NBA finals.

If you feel this way now surely you felt this way before the whole Donaghy situation, yet thats not enough and only an isolated incident correct?

[packerd_00]

Fck it, let the nonsense keep going. I need some late night entertainment. Disregard.

Carry on, dummies.

I'm getting a good laugh reading this thread know,it stopped being a real debate ages ago.

[akphidelt]

If you feel this way now surely you felt this way before the whole Donaghy situation, yet thats not enough and only an isolated incident correct?

Donaghy didn't provide any information on the NBA rigging games. His information was about refs talking and having biases or opinions. That's human nature. No one is arguing that a ref can't influence a game or that refs sometimes might be less likely to blow the whistle on a team that is losing. I play in an adult men's hockey league and you know if you are losing by 3-4 goals that some refs will let you get away with a lot more and won't call all the ticky tac penalties that they might early in the game. Especially come playoff time. They let almost anything go unless it's very blatant.

It's just human nature. The question is does the NBA tell the refs to make sure one team wins over another. Aka rigging a game... for whatever reason. My position is that they do not and there has never been any evidence presented that they do. Just showing games where refs make bad calls is not evidence. Refs make bad calls at every level of competition. My high school football coach used to go through the refs on assignment and let us know how they call games or how much they hate him. And I played at one of the highest levels of highest football in the country.

You guys are taking out any human components of the game and just basically saying after you see a replay if a ref makes a bad call there is a reason for that call other than them just making a mistake. It's gamblers paranoia. Anyone who has ever played sports in their lives understands that nothing is predictable.

[James Marques]

Saying the NBA is rigging games to extend series is statistically inaccurate. I have already shown this. It is amazing that people just can't accept losing a bet. It is way more likely that a vast conspiracy is against me than it is that I made a shitty pick.

[cane]

If you feel this way now surely you felt this way before the whole Donaghy situation, yet thats not enough and only an isolated incident correct?

Correct, I think the Donaghy situation was an isolated event. Donaghy was a rogue referee with a gambling problem and had ties to some shady characters, and I have no problem saying I absolutely believe he fixed some games he reffed, but just because one referee in the entire history of basketball was involved with fixing games, that doesn't mean they're all doing it. Also, the Donaghy fixing scandal had nothing to do with the league, it was him and him alone, I don't think anyone else knew what he was doing, meaning other refs or anyone from the league.

[jtoler]

Donaghy didn't provide any information on the NBA rigging games. His information was about refs talking and having biases or opinions. That's human nature. No one is arguing that a ref can't influence a game or that refs sometimes might be less likely to blow the whistle on a team that is losing. I play in an adult men's hockey league and you know if you are losing by 3-4 goals that some refs will let you get away with a lot more and won't call all the ticky tac penalties that they might early in the game. Especially come playoff time. They let almost anything go unless it's very blatant.

It's just human nature. The question is does the NBA tell the refs to make sure one team wins over another. Aka rigging a game... for whatever reason. My position is that they do not and there has never been any evidence presented that they do. Just showing games where refs make bad calls is not evidence. Refs make bad calls at every level of competition. My high school football coach used to go through the refs on assignment and let us know how they call games or how much they hate him. And I played at one of the highest levels of highest football in the country.

You guys are taking out any human components of the game and just basically saying after you see a replay if a ref makes a bad call there is a reason for that call other than them just making a mistake. It's gamblers paranoia. Anyone who has ever played sports in their lives understands that nothing is predictable.

Thats exactly what he said Einstein.

[jtoler]

Saying the NBA is rigging games to extend series is statistically inaccurate. I have already shown this. It is amazing that people just can't accept losing a bet. It is way more likely that a vast conspiracy is against me than it is that I made a shitty pick.

I didnt say they did and you didnt show it either, what you showed was the total of Game 7's, when the term extension in this case would mean anything beyond 4 games.

[akphidelt]

Thats exactly what he said Einstein.

He didn't say that at all. Well he didn't have any evidence that they told him or anyone he knows.

[James Marques]

I didnt say they did and you didnt show it either, what you showed was the total of Game 7's, when the term extension in this case would mean anything beyond 4 games.

Would you like to see the numbers for games 4-7? I gotta tell you, I don't think they'll support your argument.

[44 Mag]

Men, give this up.... Wtf!!!!

[akphidelt]

Men, give this up.... Wtf!!!!

Quit being a little beotch. You can skip it and still survive.

[brainfreeze]

Everyone at least has the common understanding that the ref did get caught fixing games.
If you think he's the only one in history, I have the Brooklyn bridge for sale too. He's the only one got caught, big difference.

[TheMoneyShot]

23 Pages long and we're still rolling. One of the most controversial topics ever at SBR.

[akphidelt]

23 Pages long and we're still rolling. One of the most controversial topics ever at SBR.

The thing I don't understand is how people are still dumb enough to believe it's rigged! They honestly think games with bad calls is proof. Lot of psychos in this world.