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  • TwoWays
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    • 03-24-10
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    #1
    Is jeff Samardzija 2014
    version of Chris Sale last year. I mean, this go get's almost no run support. Guy has 5 starts to his name this year, a 1.53 era, and is 0-2. sucks to be him. maybe on another team he'd be racking up the wins and get more recognition.
  • Down_Goes Bookie
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    • 06-18-13
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    #2
    Garza telling Samardzija he needs to "pitch his way off the Cubs" was interesting. Expecting good things from him this year.

    Matt Garza had some friendly advice for Jeff Samardzija, saying his former teammate needs to "pitch your way out of there" if he doesn't want to stay with the Chicago Cubs.
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    • TwoWays
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      • 03-24-10
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      #3
      samardzija almost got win today. sub. 1.5 era and still winless, 0-4. sucks for him being on the cubs. lol
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      • Darkside Magick
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        • 05-28-10
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        #4
        Can a winless guy win the cy young...his era is 1.46
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        • No coincidences
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          • 01-18-10
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          #5
          Originally posted by Darkside Magick
          Can a winless guy win the cy young...his era is 1.46
          In 10 starts. Never seen anything like it.
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          • pavyracer
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            • 04-12-07
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            #6
            Originally posted by Darkside Magick
            Can a winless guy win the cy young...his era is 1.46
            No. It takes a team effort to win a Cy Young.
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            • Darkside Magick
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              • 05-28-10
              • 12638

              #7
              Originally posted by pavyracer
              No. It takes a team effort to win a Cy Young.
              But is it a team award?...I thought it goes to the best pitcher
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              • easyliving
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                • 06-25-12
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                #8
                Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                Can a winless guy win the cy young...his era is 1.46
                King Felix won it with like a .500 record a few years back. As long as he keeps up the ERA and keeps putting up Ks he will be their in the discussion
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                • pavyracer
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                  • 04-12-07
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Darkside Magick
                  But is it a team award?...I thought it goes to the best pitcher
                  Does the pitcher play defense by himself?
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                  • Cappinpicks
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                    • 03-11-10
                    • 14986

                    #10
                    Poor guy cant even win a 2-0 shutout in the 9th
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                    • Darkside Magick
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                      • 05-28-10
                      • 12638

                      #11
                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                      Does the pitcher play defense by himself?
                      True..but if the defense make mistakes then they become errors and unearned runs so defense is a given
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                      • jjgold
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                        • 07-20-05
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                        #12
                        Guy seems jiinxed when he pitches

                        not a bad arm either
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                        • Down_Goes Bookie
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                          • 06-18-13
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                          #13
                          he's pitching like his balls are on fire because he wants the F out of Chicago

                          if he keeps pitching like this and ends up winless at the end of the season they'll give him the Cy Young out of sympathy
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                          • d2bets
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                            #14
                            This has got to be literally unprecedented. Has anyone ever seen a winless starter 10 games into a season with such stellar numbers? 1.46 ERA and he goes routinely goes deep. He's got to be the unluckiest pitcher in history. And it's not like he hurts himself -- he's a good fielder and hitter. Being on the Cubs is part of it, but it doesn't explain why Jason Hammel is 5-2. Can a starting pitcher make an all-star without winning a game? lol
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                            • gryfyn1
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                              #15
                              two years ago through 9 starts Cliff Lee has a but higher ERA (2.92 vs 1.62), but he has more IP (64.2 v 61) and better rates 66:11 K:BB But Lee was 0-3. More Surpisingly the Phils were a 28-28 at the point as opposed to Chicago awful 16-27
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                              • No coincidences
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                                • 01-18-10
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                More Surpisingly the Phils were a 28-28 at the point as opposed to Chicago awful 16-27
                                This is not a major league team. Period. It's the worst team in baseball, rivaled only by the Astros. There are a ton of minor league-level players seeing daily playing time on this roster.
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                                • d2bets
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by gryfyn1
                                  two years ago through 9 starts Cliff Lee has a but higher ERA (2.92 vs 1.62), but he has more IP (64.2 v 61) and better rates 66:11 K:BB But Lee was 0-3. More Surpisingly the Phils were a 28-28 at the point as opposed to Chicago awful 16-27
                                  After today's game Samardzija is at 68IP over 10 starts with a 1.46 ERA. 2.92 is good, but 1.46 or even 1.62 is way lower.
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                                  • RavensFan2k3
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                                    • 08-18-12
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                                    #18
                                    I always wondered how do certain pitchers not get run support...like does the team just not fukk with him?
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                                    • d2bets
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                                      #19
                                      Samardzija ERA is the lowest for a pitcher winless after 10 starts.

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                                      • greenhippo
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                                        #20
                                        Reminds me of Clemens back in 05 I think it was, sub 2 ERA for the year but won 13 games over 30+ starts. They lost so many 1-0 games.
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                                        • d2bets
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by greenhippo
                                          Reminds me of Clemens back in 05 I think it was, sub 2 ERA for the year but won 13 games over 30+ starts. They lost so many 1-0 games.
                                          13 wins!? Samardzija would be overjoyed to win 13. Almost 1/3 thru and he's on pace for 0.
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                                          • Madison
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                                            • 09-16-11
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                                            #22
                                            I wish I had the actual stats from the paper a week or so ago but totally off the charts.

                                            He's had a lead like 5 1/3 innings.

                                            6 games giving up 0 or 1 runs without a decision.

                                            Crazy stuff.

                                            I'll see if I can find it. And that was before his last start.
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                                            • Madison
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                                              #23
                                              Here you go. Before the last start.

                                              Jeff Samardzija can't do much more than he has in 2014 for the Cubs. He's made nine starts, and given up 11 earned runs and 49 hits in 61 innings. He has 51 strikeouts to 19 walks. He has given up one or zero earned runs in five starts. He’s had a lead for a total of 5 1/3 innings while he’s been in the game. His record: 0-4.
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                                              • Madison
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                                                #24
                                                Going back to last year, Samardzija has now gone 13 consecutive starts allowing two or fewer earned runs. According to ESPN Stats & Information research, that’s the second-longest streak since the league started compiling earned runs in 1913.
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                                                • BiffTFinancial
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                                                  #25
                                                  Whoa! Good stuff Madison.
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                                                  • jjgold
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                                                    #26
                                                    He will get a huge contract although has to get out of Chicago as they are the worst team in the land forever
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                                                    • JeffTheShark
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                                                      • 05-23-14
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                                                      This is not a major league team. Period. It's the worst team in baseball, rivaled only by the Astros. There are a ton of minor league-level players seeing daily playing time on this roster.
                                                      How can you say this is the worst team in baseball? They have a positive run differential. Let me break it down in an easier way.

                                                      The Cubs have scored 179 runs in 45 games.
                                                      The Diamondbacks have scored 187 runs in 49 games.

                                                      The Cubs have allowed 175 runs in 45 games.
                                                      The Diamondbacks have allowed 255 runs in 49 games.

                                                      I'm not trying to make the argument the Cubs are a good team. But teams who are possibly 'the worst team in baseball' do not have +4 run differentials. The Cubs are an unlucky team that also chokes games. But terrible? No. They will be after the deadline when everyone is traded.
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                                                      • JeffTheShark
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                                                        • 05-23-14
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                                                        #28
                                                        And I'll let this sink in. Statistically, the Cubs have a 19.8% chance to make the playoffs, compared to the Pirates' chances of 10.2%.

                                                        They won't, of course, but this team is much better than people think. I'm shocked anyone is crazy enough to think this team may be anywhere near the level of the Astros or Diamondbacks.
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                                                        • newguy
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                                                          #29
                                                          Remember a few weeks ago cubs scored like 13 runs in one game. Thought we would read that Jeff slit his wrists that night. You have to feel for the guy. At least one game he has more rbi's than runs allowed and still lost. Think cubs press when he is pitching.
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            #30
                                                            Sharky you get my point

                                                            They are horrific

                                                            He is not staying with them
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                                                            • d2bets
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by JeffTheShark
                                                              And I'll let this sink in. Statistically, the Cubs have a 19.8% chance to make the playoffs, compared to the Pirates' chances of 10.2%.

                                                              They won't, of course, but this team is much better than people think. I'm shocked anyone is crazy enough to think this team may be anywhere near the level of the Astros or Diamondbacks.
                                                              I'm a Cubs fan, but even I LOL @ that %. Where did you get that from?
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                                                              • JeffTheShark
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                                                                • 05-23-14
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                                I'm a Cubs fan, but even I LOL @ that %. Where did you get that from?
                                                                It is a percentage derived largely from run differentials. Run differentials are skewed, but generally speaking, if you score more runs than you allow then you're going to be an above .500 team and vise versa.
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                                                                • JeffTheShark
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                                                                  • 05-23-14
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Statistically speaking, it is near impossible the Cubs are 11 games under .500 this early in the season with a positive run differential.

                                                                  Bad luck + choking bullpen = statistical anomaly.
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                                                                  • JeffTheShark
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                                                                    • 05-23-14
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Along the same lines, Milwaukee is 28-20 with a +3 run differential. You think that luck will continue? They're already starting to fade and fade fast.
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                                                                    • d2bets
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by JeffTheShark
                                                                      It is a percentage derived largely from run differentials. Run differentials are skewed, but generally speaking, if you score more runs than you allow then you're going to be an above .500 team and vise versa.
                                                                      That's all well and good but their record is what it is at this point and they are pretty buried in the standings at 17-28. How many wins you figure minimum to make playoffs? Maybe 90? So they'd have to close 73-44 to get to that. Come on, let's be honest here. I agree the Cubs are better than their current record, but the lost ground now is almost certainly too steep to overcome.
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