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  • Nicky Santoro
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 04-08-08
    • 16103

    #1
    A sure way to make $$$$ gambling over a lifetime........
    Boys, i gave you guys that great tip on how to be thin because im a nice guy cause you all know when you think of nice guys, the 1st name that comes to your mind is nicky santoro.... you`re welcome....

    so since i am a good guy, here is the secret formula to make money over a lifetime.. Its full proof.

    Since gambling has started, there have been way more unders than overs.. but if you bet every under in sports, you will go broke because of the vig. The vig will just eat you up at the end. So this is what you do to avoid it...

    When pinny has an NFL game total at 36.5 ov -105-- 36.5 un -105, all you have to do is get a 36.5 un even somewhere and you have a + even bet going for you here.

    if pinny has a hockey total 5.5 ov -110---5.5 un even, all you have to find is a un 5.5 +105 or better and you will take the money over the long haul.

    if pinny has a mlb total of 8.5 ov -115--8.5 un +105, just find a un 8.5 +110 and you are good to go.

    Just beat pinnys closing line by 5 cents or more is all you need and play every under in every sport, BUT it must be 5 cents better or you DO NOT play it. IF not 5 cents better, you LAY OFF IT..


    i promise you will win at the end. in the 15 or so yrs of research i have put into this, there have been much more unders than overs and this is a large enough sample size.



    You`re welcome..
  • Chi_archie
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-22-08
    • 63165

    #2
    so for every 100 overs there are 106 or more unders?
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    • Nicky Santoro
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 04-08-08
      • 16103

      #3
      no archie, you hve it all wrong..
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      • tullamore
        SBR MVP
        • 07-17-07
        • 3586

        #4
        Nicky betting both sides at + money.
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        • Nicky Santoro
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 04-08-08
          • 16103

          #5
          no,

          there have been close to 51% unders since the mid to early 90`s, thats when the research was done. so if you bet ever under in all 4 major sports at 5 cents better than actual 10 cent line, you will show a profit for sure.. 100%

          because sometimes you will have un 8.5 +125 also and at 51% you will win, but you will also have some un 9.5 -110 and so on.. but at 51% unders with the 5 cents better, you win $$$ for sure.
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          • MonkeyF0cker
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 06-12-07
            • 12144

            #6
            It's called scalping or arbing and takes a significant amount of money to make anything worthwhile...
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            • onthewhat
              Restricted User
              • 05-14-08
              • 15411

              #7
              nicky are these the only totals you play?
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              • MonkeyF0cker
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 06-12-07
                • 12144

                #8
                Oh nevermind. Misread the first post.
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                • Chi_archie
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 07-22-08
                  • 63165

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                  no,

                  there have been close to 51% unders since the mid to early 90`s, thats when the research was done. so if you bet ever under in all 4 major sports at 5 cents better than actual 10 cent line, you will show a profit for sure.. 100%

                  because sometimes you will have un 8.5 +125 also and at 51% you will win, but you will also have some un 9.5 -110 and so on.. but at 51% unders with the 5 cents better, you win $$$ for sure.

                  ok... I thought you were only talking -105's
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                  • Nicky Santoro
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 04-08-08
                    • 16103

                    #10
                    this is NOT scalping. scalping is when you dont risk a penny and you cant lose.. this is gambling only.. and if you did this and bet only overs, you`d be broke.. only works on unders.

                    and i have done this in the past, but have gotten off it many times. i never really stick to it, but if i did, i`d be up a ton.. i keep track..
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                    • Rich Boy
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 02-01-09
                      • 9713

                      #11
                      This will be really boring to do. Most people bet for the action, not to make money.
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                      • Nicky Santoro
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 04-08-08
                        • 16103

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rich Boy
                        This will be really boring to do. Most people bet for the action, not to make money.
                        it is very boring to do cause you are like a robot and you only cheer for no goals or pts being scored.. which is why i left it..

                        but it`s easy to do and you will find lots of places to get the 5 cents better. on a 30 game night, i`d have about 22 plays from this.. but no handicapping allowed, which is why you will find it boring..

                        but it is profitable. i did this 2 yrs ago for 8 months and did very well.. i wish i stuck with it cause i have not done that great the last 2 yrs
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                        • MonkeyF0cker
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 06-12-07
                          • 12144

                          #13
                          FYI, an under 8.5 +125 is NOT going to hit 51% of the time.
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                          • Nicky Santoro
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 04-08-08
                            • 16103

                            #14
                            Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                            FYI, an under 8.5 +125 is NOT going to hit 51% of the time.

                            duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, thanks monkey, i needed your tip.. jeeeeeeeeesh...


                            but when you mix it in with the many un 8.5 -125 and un 8.5 -115, you will hit 51%.

                            are you still trying to prove my theory wrong monkey. i noticed you tried last post with your wrong scalping theory, then you changed it..monkey, stop trying to make me look dumb, cause ive forgotten way more of this business than you will ever know..
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                            • MonkeyF0cker
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 06-12-07
                              • 12144

                              #15
                              Sure you have. I admitted I misread the first post. You're the one that said it hits 51%. Not me. And this is no secret, Nicky. Beating Pinny closers has been discussed a million times in the past. It's common knowledge.
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                              • Nicky Santoro
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 04-08-08
                                • 16103

                                #16
                                Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                Sure you have. I admitted I misread the first post. You're the one that said it hits 51%. Not me. And this is no secret, Nicky. Beating Pinny closers has been discussed a million times in the past. It's common knowledge.
                                i noticed you are always always trying to figure out a way to correct me in every post at SBR.. it`s like you are trying to outsmart me to compete with me. maybe that`s why you are always nasty with me. i am not here to compete with you or anyone as the smartest guy.. it might be somethign you are looking for, not me..

                                and beating pinny by 5 cents is NOT beating the closing number either. it`s basically break even, UNLESS you are playing unders only..
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                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 06-12-07
                                  • 12144

                                  #17
                                  You've never once brought up one advanced handicapping topic. So, once again, I'll gladly invite you to the Think Tank. Sadly, you and I know you'd be in WAY over your head. If you really have forgotten more than I know, it should be a breeze. Right, Nicky?
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                                  • Rich Boy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-01-09
                                    • 9713

                                    #18
                                    In NBA and NHL this season, unders are less than 50% according to covers.
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                                    • fiveteamer
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 04-14-08
                                      • 10805

                                      #19
                                      What if the line changes 15 seconds before the game goes off the board? How the **** will you beat that number?
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                                      • jjgold
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 07-20-05
                                        • 388185

                                        #20
                                        Nicky is one of the smartest guys I know. I never saw a guy that always has the edge on every game he bets.
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                                        • smitch124
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-19-08
                                          • 12566

                                          #21
                                          Rich and Thin thanks Nicky!
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                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 04-08-08
                                            • 16103

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by jjgold
                                            Nicky is one of the smartest guys I know. I never saw a guy that always has the edge on every game he bets.

                                            that`s gonna cause trouble now.. and you know this jj.. you know you can`t ever say things like this with donny, durito, monkey and rjt on board.. i call them the 4 musketeers..they usually come in 1 by 1 after a post like this by you.. monkey has already shown up 5x in the last 3 minutes..
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                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-12-07
                                              • 12144

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                              i noticed you are always always trying to figure out a way to correct me in every post at SBR.. it`s like you are trying to outsmart me to compete with me. maybe that`s why you are always nasty with me. i am not here to compete with you or anyone as the smartest guy.. it might be somethign you are looking for, not me..

                                              and beating pinny by 5 cents is NOT beating the closing number either. it`s basically break even, UNLESS you are playing unders only..
                                              I would bet you that you are wrong but since we're not competing, I'll allow you to spew ignorance. There are other criteria where beating the Pinny close by 5 cents is profitable.
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                                              • fiveteamer
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 04-14-08
                                                • 10805

                                                #24
                                                Please tell me because I'm an idiot and need to know these things. On sbrlines I can't find a game that fits this criteria today. Maybe you have to play at lesser books?
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                                                • fiveteamer
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 04-14-08
                                                  • 10805

                                                  #25
                                                  No sorry I found one, Carolina CHicago U Pinny is +109, WSEX it is +115, that would be a play, right Nicky?
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                                                  • Nicky Santoro
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 04-08-08
                                                    • 16103

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by MonkeyF0cker
                                                    I would bet you that you are wrong but since we're not competing, I'll allow you to spew ignorance. There are other criteria where beating the Pinny close by 5 cents is profitable.
                                                    always looking for ways to outsmart me.. you will nver change. you will be like this in 12 yrs.. sure pinny`s lines are not always exactly right. i`ve seen pinny have lines that were off. if all their lines were so accurate, why do i have 15% of my plays there every night. sometimes they have a +106 hanging and at matchy it`s -105.. then i bang out the +106 at pinny cause i know they are off on that one.

                                                    but in general, if you just use pinny and you get 5 cents better than them on 150 games a week from every sport, and bet only under, you will win..
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                                                    • Nicky Santoro
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 04-08-08
                                                      • 16103

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                      No sorry I found one, Carolina CHicago U Pinny is +109, WSEX it is +115, that would be a play, right Nicky?
                                                      bingo.
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                                                      • tullamore
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 07-17-07
                                                        • 3586

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                        always looking for ways to outsmart me.. you will nver change. you will be like this in 12 yrs.. sure pinny`s lines are not always exactly right. i`ve seen pinny have lines that were off. if all their lines were so accurate, why do i have 15% of my plays there every night. sometimes they have a -105 hanging and at matchy it`s +106.. then i bang out the -105 at pinny cause i know they are off on that one.

                                                        but in general, if you just use pinny and you get 5 cents better than them on 150 games a week from every sport, and bet only under, you will win..
                                                        Nicky if it is this easy, why let the secret out? Won't people looking for these situations make this types of lines less available.
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                                                        • fiveteamer
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 04-14-08
                                                          • 10805

                                                          #29
                                                          I don't understand why it is only unders.
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                                                          • Nicky Santoro
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-08-08
                                                            • 16103

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by tullamore
                                                            Nicky if it is this easy, why let the secret out? Won't people looking for these situations make this types of lines less available.

                                                            because i know if i say this to 300 people, that ONLY 2 might do it.. and 2 is high a number.. it is very very hard to stick by this and not fun at all and it`s a lot of work..

                                                            but if they are willing to put in the hrs, and the work, then let them do this. but no one will.. i know this because i have told 94 buddies this tip and NOT ONE has done it. some have tried it for 2 days and got fed up and went back to betting lakers -12.5 at home with kobe.. you need a ton of discipline for this..and patience.
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                                                            • Matt Rain
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 02-13-07
                                                              • 5001

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by tullamore
                                                              Nicky if it is this easy, why let the secret out? Won't people looking for these situations make this types of lines less available.
                                                              95%+ of people here will still lose (by overbetting and/or chasing) even if they follow the advice. A 5 cent edge is not big, and you'll go through huge downswings that can last several weeks/hundreds of plays.

                                                              I'm more interested to know how you bet, Nicky. Do you flat bet? Fixed % of your bankroll on every play or variable % depending on your estimated edge? Max number of daily plays? Max number of simultaneous plays?
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                                                              • Nicky Santoro
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 04-08-08
                                                                • 16103

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                                                I don't understand why it is only unders.

                                                                because in the last 15 or so years, there has been much more unders than overs in the 4 major sports. so if you bet overs, you will hit close to 49% and if you bet unders, you will hit about 51%. along with the 5 cents better on each game, you are on your way.. if you don`t find 5 cents better you DO NOT bet the game.. lay off it.. even if it`s 4 cents, lay off it.
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                                                                • Nicky Santoro
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-08-08
                                                                  • 16103

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Matt Rain
                                                                  95%+ of people here will still lose (by overbetting and/or chasing) even if they follow the advice. A 5 cent edge is not big, and you'll go through huge downswings that can last several weeks/hundreds of plays.
                                                                  excellent post, matty rain..
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                                                                  • tullamore
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 07-17-07
                                                                    • 3586

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Nicky Santoro
                                                                    because i know if i say this to 300 people, that ONLY 2 might do it.. and 2 is high a number.. it is very very hard to stick by this and not fun at all and it`s a lot of work..

                                                                    but if they are willing to put in the hrs, and the work, then let them do this. but no one will.. i know this because i have told 94 buddies this tip and NOT ONE has done it. some have tried it for 2 days and got fed up and went back to betting lakers -12.5 at home with kobe.. you need a ton of discipline for this..and patience.
                                                                    So the biggest reasons for success would be discipline and money management, and if you dont have both you are going to lose, no matter what lines you are betting into.
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                                                                    • Nicky Santoro
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-08-08
                                                                      • 16103

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Matt Rain
                                                                      I'm more interested to know how you bet, Nicky. Do you flat bet? Fixed % of your bankroll on every play or variable % depending on your estimated edge? Max number of daily plays? Max number of simultaneous plays?

                                                                      the bigger the edge i get, the more i have on it. i want to up my ROI.. if i find a game 13 cents better, i might put 1.5x more on that one than a reg 5 cent advantage bet.
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