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  • VegasDave
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-03-07
    • 8056

    #1
    Just Got Done With My Annual Fantasy Draft...
    10 Team Mixed League, Head To Head...

    C - Ryan Doumit
    1B - Mark Teixeira
    2B - Dan Uggla
    3B - Garrett Atkins
    SS - Jhonny Peralta
    OF - Bobby Abreu
    OF - Vernon Wells
    OF - Brad Hawpe
    Util - David Ortiz
    Util - Andre Ethier
    BN - Jorge Posada
    BN - Pat Burrell

    SP - Johan Santana
    SP - Brandon Webb
    SP - Dan Haren
    SP - Roy Oswalt
    SP - Adam Wainwright
    SP - Joba Chamberlain
    SP - Joe Saunders
    SP - Mike Pelfrey

    RP - Bobby Jenks
    RP - Chris Pérez
    RP - Dan Wheeler

    Obviously my RP needs work, but a decent draft overall.
  • element1286
    Restricted User
    • 02-25-08
    • 3370

    #2
    Your starting pitchers are looking pretty damn good.
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    • VegasDave
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-03-07
      • 8056

      #3
      Originally posted by element1286
      Your starting pitchers are looking pretty damn good.
      I don't name my team the Las Vegas Aces every year for nothing, haha
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      • Immortality
        Restricted User
        • 12-20-07
        • 4599

        #4
        Make sure you trade Haren at the all-star break before he has his yearly 2nd half meltdown.
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        • Willie Bee
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-14-06
          • 15726

          #5
          Jesus? How many 1st- and 2nd-round picks did you get Dave?
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          • waiverwire
            SBR High Roller
            • 03-08-09
            • 125

            #6
            Too much starting pitching. I would think you could have done better with relievers in the late rounds than you did. You're going to be weak in SB and AVG I think. Big risk with Santana's health. His reduced K/9 last year was warning sign #1. Preseason issues this year are warning sign #2. But if he stays healthy, Citi Field could make up for some reduction in K/9.
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            • SamsNCharge99
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-22-08
              • 41242

              #7
              Your Pitching is ridiculously good. But, Batters are ehh. Your are easily ranked 1st in league in pitching and my guess probably 7,8,9, or 10 in batting. So, overall you're just in the middle.

              I would trade a pitcher or 2 for some solid batters.

              Right now, your team is probably 3-6 for best team. Get some solid batters and you move up.
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              • VegasDave
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-03-07
                • 8056

                #8
                Originally posted by waiverwire
                Too much starting pitching. I would think you could have done better with relievers in the late rounds than you did. You're going to be weak in SB and AVG I think. Big risk with Santana's health. His reduced K/9 last year was warning sign #1. Preseason issues this year are warning sign #2. But if he stays healthy, Citi Field could make up for some reduction in K/9.
                I always concede stolen bases as a general rule... don't like wasting roster spots on guys that don't get HRs and RBIs in a head to head league. SB guys outside of the elite ones usually don't hit all that well, either. I would have loved to have taken some better relief pitching late, but the guys in my league were going crazy scooping all the closers off the board early in the draft. I'm not a big fan of drafting closers early, as injuries and struggles often lead to plenty of closer changes over the course of the year, meaning I can grab the set-up guys off of waivers.

                Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
                Your Pitching is ridiculously good. But, Batters are ehh. Your are easily ranked 1st in league in pitching and my guess probably 7,8,9, or 10 in batting. So, overall you're just in the middle.

                I would trade a pitcher or 2 for some solid batters.

                Right now, your team is probably 3-6 for best team. Get some solid batters and you move up.
                9th or 10th in batting?? Obviously I drafted my team pitching-first, but every single guy in my starting line-up hit 20 HRs last year other than Doumit, who would have easily if not for being injured.

                Only two guys in my starting line up hit lower than .275 last year; Uggla (who certainly will again, but 30 bombs at 2B is worth it) and Ortiz (first time under .287 over the last 6 years, likely to bounce back).

                I'm not saying I have the best offense in the league or that it can't use some work, but just about every guy on this list is a minimum 80 / 20 / 80 / .275, which should at the very least put me in the 4th - 7th range.

                And remember, of course, I make tons of moves on the waiver wire. Someone will undoubtedly get hot and come out of nowhere that I will eventually upgrade to.
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                • VegasDave
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-03-07
                  • 8056

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Willie Bee
                  Jesus? How many 1st- and 2nd-round picks did you get Dave?
                  Here is how it went down...

                  1. (10) Johan Santana SP
                  2. (11) Mark Teixeira 1B
                  3. (30) Brandon Webb SP
                  4. (31) David Ortiz Util
                  5. (50) Garrett Atkins 1B,3B
                  6. (51) Dan Haren SP
                  7. (70) Dan Uggla 2B
                  8. (71) Roy Oswalt SP
                  9. (90) Ryan Doumit C
                  10. (91) Bobby Jenks RP
                  11. (110) Bobby Abreu OF
                  12. (111) Adam Wainwright SP
                  13. (130) Joba Chamberlain SP,RP
                  14. (131) Vernon Wells OF
                  15. (150) Jhonny Peralta SS
                  16. (151) Brad Hawpe OF
                  17. (170) Chris Pérez RP
                  18. (171) Dan Wheeler RP
                  19. (190) Mike Pelfrey SP
                  20. (191) Andre Ethier OF
                  21. (210) Joe Saunders SP
                  22. (211) Jorge Posada C
                  23. (230) Pat Burrell OF

                  League has standard 10 categories:
                  R / HR / RBI / SB / AVG
                  W / SV / Ks / ERA / WHIP
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                  • Kingctb27
                    SBR MVP
                    • 07-16-08
                    • 2258

                    #10
                    The fantasy baseball expert is here.

                    Here are the picks I like

                    Joba
                    Perez

                    Way too many SPs for my liking. I've made a living in fantasy baseball drafting all hitters and a top closer in the first 7-8 rounds in my drafts. Not only are hitters harder to find on your WW, but they are usually more consistent than pitchers. Look at a guy like Bedard last year that was taken in the 4th round, Carpenter two years ago, etc. Think about it this way, is there really that much of a differnce in a guy like Gallardo than in B Webb? Wins are an arbitrary category, guys with 2.5 ERA's end up with less wins than guys with 4.5's. (See Johan Santana and AJ Burnett last season)... basically you rely on to many unknowns in predicting wins.. That is one of the cats that Webb excells in, yes, but a guy taken in round 14 like Gallardo can get just as many. The ratio's will be close enough and a guy like Gallardo or Grienke might even K more than Webb.

                    A Carlos Lee + Gallardo is a much better combo than something like Webb + James Loney.

                    Btw, if Pablo Sandoval wasn't drafted make sure you pick him up. Same goes with Justin Upton
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                    • pavyracer
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82900

                      #11
                      Originally posted by VegasDave
                      10 Team Mixed League, Head To Head...

                      C - Ryan Doumit
                      1B - Mark Teixeira
                      2B - Dan Uggla
                      3B - Garrett Atkins
                      SS - Jhonny Peralta
                      OF - Bobby Abreu
                      OF - Vernon Wells
                      OF - Brad Hawpe
                      Util - David Ortiz
                      Util - Andre Ethier
                      BN - Jorge Posada
                      BN - Pat Burrell

                      SP - Johan Santana
                      SP - Brandon Webb
                      SP - Dan Haren
                      SP - Roy Oswalt
                      SP - Adam Wainwright
                      SP - Joba Chamberlain
                      SP - Joe Saunders
                      SP - Mike Pelfrey

                      RP - Bobby Jenks
                      RP - Chris Pérez
                      RP - Dan Wheeler

                      Obviously my RP needs work, but a decent draft overall.
                      No Braves players.
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                      • sallysnax8
                        SBR MVP
                        • 01-22-09
                        • 1686

                        #12
                        i've never done a live draft before but mine's coming......should i go pitcher or hitter 1st pick??
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                        • Kingctb27
                          SBR MVP
                          • 07-16-08
                          • 2258

                          #13
                          Originally posted by sallysnax8
                          i've never done a live draft before but mine's coming......should i go pitcher or hitter 1st pick??
                          Hitter
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                          • VegasDave
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 01-03-07
                            • 8056

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kingctb27
                            The fantasy baseball expert is here.

                            Here are the picks I like

                            Joba
                            Perez

                            Way too many SPs for my liking. I've made a living in fantasy baseball drafting all hitters and a top closer in the first 7-8 rounds in my drafts. Not only are hitters harder to find on your WW, but they are usually more consistent than pitchers. Look at a guy like Bedard last year that was taken in the 4th round, Carpenter two years ago, etc. Think about it this way, is there really that much of a differnce in a guy like Gallardo than in B Webb? Wins are an arbitrary category, guys with 2.5 ERA's end up with less wins than guys with 4.5's. (See Johan Santana and AJ Burnett last season)... basically you rely on to many unknowns in predicting wins.. That is one of the cats that Webb excells in, yes, but a guy taken in round 14 like Gallardo can get just as many. The ratio's will be close enough and a guy like Gallardo or Grienke might even K more than Webb.

                            A Carlos Lee + Gallardo is a much better combo than something like Webb + James Loney.

                            Btw, if Pablo Sandoval wasn't drafted make sure you pick him up. Same goes with Justin Upton
                            I've made a living drafting pitchers and have had great success as well. I don't think there is any wrong way to do it; if you are active on the waiver wire and keep up to date on everything, you should have success no matter what your draft strategy.

                            Sandoval was taken way too early (as was Chris Davis)... hype surrounding these guys sent their draft spot value down the tube. Upton was snagged right before I could grab him in my last 2pack of picks.
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                            • fiveteamer
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 04-14-08
                              • 10805

                              #15
                              I thought Bobby Abreu retired.
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                              • VegasDave
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-03-07
                                • 8056

                                #16
                                Originally posted by sallysnax8
                                i've never done a live draft before but mine's coming......should i go pitcher or hitter 1st pick??
                                Definitely want to go hitter with the 1st pick (and I LOVE pitching)
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                                • VegasDave
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 01-03-07
                                  • 8056

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                  I thought Bobby Abreu retired.
                                  Unreal
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                                  • fiveteamer
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-14-08
                                    • 10805

                                    #18
                                    Anyways, Vernon Wells is due for a big year. I expect at least 35 homers from him.
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                                    • VegasDave
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 01-03-07
                                      • 8056

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by fiveteamer
                                      Anyways, Vernon Wells is due for a big year. I expect at least 35 homers from him.
                                      Hope you are right... if he stays on the field, he's always a threat.
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                                      • sallysnax8
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 01-22-09
                                        • 1686

                                        #20
                                        ^ isnt he already out w/ a bad hammy?
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                                        • VegasDave
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 01-03-07
                                          • 8056

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by sallysnax8
                                          ^ isnt he already out w/ a bad hammy?
                                          Rotowire:

                                          Mar 8 Wells (hamstring) has been able to do some light running but remains about a week away from returning, the Toronto Star reports.Recommendation: "There's no reason to rush things. I'll get plenty of at-bats the rest of the spring," Wells said. He'll have plenty of time to get ready for the season barring any additional setbacks.
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                                          • sallysnax8
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-22-09
                                            • 1686

                                            #22
                                            nice
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                                            • VegasDave
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-03-07
                                              • 8056

                                              #23
                                              Probably wouldn't have been on the board at 131 with a clean bill of health
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                                              • waiverwire
                                                SBR High Roller
                                                • 03-08-09
                                                • 125

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by sallysnax8
                                                i've never done a live draft before but mine's coming......should i go pitcher or hitter 1st pick??
                                                Most years - hitter. This year - DEFINITELY hitter, with Santana coming back to the pack (lower K/9 last year, health concerns). There simply isn't a dominant starting pitcher going into the season. Santana and one or two others will go in the 2nd or early 3rd round of most drafts...but you can get someone roughly equal to them in the 4th round, so why reach for a pitcher early?
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                                                • VegasDave
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-03-07
                                                  • 8056

                                                  #25
                                                  Last time I got the 10/11 I went 2 hitters... but I'm just too much of a sucker for pitching, had to get Santana again this year.
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                                                  • pavyracer
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82900

                                                    #26
                                                    How can someone pass up on C. Jones, McCann, Francoeur, Anderson, Kotchman, Y. Escobar, G. Blanco, K. Johnson, D. Lowe, J. Vasquez, M. Gonzalez, R. Soriano, P. Moylan, Kawakami, Glavine, Jurrjens?

                                                    This is 500 runs, 200 stolen bases, 400 RBI's, 150 HR, 500K, 75 win, 40 SV rotation!

                                                    Wow!
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                                                    • Kingctb27
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 07-16-08
                                                      • 2258

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                      How can someone pass up on C. Jones, McCann, Francoeur, Anderson, Kotchman, Y. Escobar, G. Blanco, K. Johnson, D. Lowe, J. Vasquez, M. Gonzalez, R. Soriano, P. Moylan, Kawakami, Glavine, Jurrjens?

                                                      This is 500 runs, 200 stolen bases, 400 RBI's, 150 HR, 500K, 75 win, 40 SV rotation!

                                                      Wow!
                                                      Son you would be lucky to get 75 steals out of that group.
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                                                      • Dante799
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 08-21-08
                                                        • 349

                                                        #28
                                                        C Kurt Suzuki
                                                        , Oak C
                                                        1B Travis Ishikawa
                                                        , SF 1B
                                                        2B Akinori Iwamura, TB 2B
                                                        SS Chin-lung Hu, LAD 2B, SS
                                                        2B/SS Kazuo Matsui, Hou 2B
                                                        OF Ichiro Suzuki
                                                        , Sea OF
                                                        OF Hideki Matsui
                                                        , NYY OF, DH
                                                        OF Kosuke Fukudome
                                                        , ChC OF
                                                        OF Shin-Soo Choo
                                                        , Cle OF DTD
                                                        OF So Taguchi, ChC
                                                        UTI LKenji Johjima
                                                        , Sea C
                                                        Bench Kila Ka'aihue
                                                        , KC DH








                                                        P Daisuke Matsuzaka
                                                        , Bos SP

                                                        P Chien-Ming Wang
                                                        , NYY SP

                                                        P Takashi Saito
                                                        , Bos RP

                                                        P Hideki Okajima, Bos RP

                                                        P Masa Kobayashi
                                                        , Cle RP

                                                        P Hong-Chih Kuo
                                                        , LAD SP, RP




                                                        check mines out Dave..
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                                                        • Vince Carter
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 02-15-09
                                                          • 498

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by SamsNCharge99
                                                          Your Pitching is ridiculously good. But, Batters are ehh. Your are easily ranked 1st in league in pitching and my guess probably 7,8,9, or 10 in batting. So, overall you're just in the middle.

                                                          I would trade a pitcher or 2 for some solid batters.

                                                          Right now, your team is probably 3-6 for best team. Get some solid batters and you move up.
                                                          you must be clueless

                                                          hit batters are solid
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                                                          • VegasDave
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-03-07
                                                            • 8056

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by Dante799
                                                            C Kurt Suzuki
                                                            , Oak C
                                                            1B Travis Ishikawa
                                                            , SF 1B
                                                            2B Akinori Iwamura, TB 2B
                                                            SS Chin-lung Hu, LAD 2B, SS
                                                            2B/SS Kazuo Matsui, Hou 2B
                                                            OF Ichiro Suzuki
                                                            , Sea OF
                                                            OF Hideki Matsui
                                                            , NYY OF, DH
                                                            OF Kosuke Fukudome
                                                            , ChC OF
                                                            OF Shin-Soo Choo
                                                            , Cle OF DTD
                                                            OF So Taguchi, ChC
                                                            UTI LKenji Johjima
                                                            , Sea C
                                                            Bench Kila Ka'aihue
                                                            , KC DH








                                                            P Daisuke Matsuzaka
                                                            , Bos SP

                                                            P Chien-Ming Wang
                                                            , NYY SP

                                                            P Takashi Saito
                                                            , Bos RP

                                                            P Hideki Okajima, Bos RP

                                                            P Masa Kobayashi
                                                            , Cle RP

                                                            P Hong-Chih Kuo
                                                            , LAD SP, RP




                                                            check mines out Dave..
                                                            Hai! Sugoi-desune!
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                                                            • whatisit
                                                              SBR Sharp
                                                              • 01-25-09
                                                              • 319

                                                              #31
                                                              Since there's a fantasy thread, didn't feel like making a new one...our 12 team Head-to-head league needs 1 more person...couple kids dropped and we dont have any capable replacements...we need 1 more experienced player who has atleast a little experience playing and is willing to stay active and involved in the league all year...PM me if interested for more details
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                                                              • Karate
                                                                SBR High Roller
                                                                • 01-25-09
                                                                • 226

                                                                #32
                                                                how was did Burrell go so late in the draft?
                                                                he is going to have a huge year bring in all those fast tampa players that all ways seem to score and get on base, he is going to be an RBI machine
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                                                                • waiverwire
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 03-08-09
                                                                  • 125

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Karate
                                                                  how was did Burrell go so late in the draft?
                                                                  he is going to have a huge year bring in all those fast tampa players that all ways seem to score and get on base, he is going to be an RBI machine
                                                                  He won't be benefiting from a great home run park anymore. Big minus.

                                                                  The AL has generally had tougher competition than the NL in recent years. Small minus.

                                                                  He's past 30 years old. Small minus.

                                                                  Add it all up...don't expect him to put up the same numbers he did last year.
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                                                                  • Fiasco
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 11-02-08
                                                                    • 2406

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                                    How can someone pass up on C. Jones, McCann, Francoeur, Anderson, Kotchman, Y. Escobar, G. Blanco, K. Johnson, D. Lowe, J. Vasquez, M. Gonzalez, R. Soriano, P. Moylan, Kawakami, Glavine, Jurrjens?

                                                                    This is 500 runs, 200 stolen bases, 400 RBI's, 150 HR, 500K, 75 win, 40 SV rotation!

                                                                    Wow!
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                                                                    • VegasDave
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 01-03-07
                                                                      • 8056

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by waiverwire
                                                                      He won't be benefiting from a great home run park anymore. Big minus.

                                                                      The AL has generally had tougher competition than the NL in recent years. Small minus.

                                                                      He's past 30 years old. Small minus.

                                                                      Add it all up...don't expect him to put up the same numbers he did last year.
                                                                      Agreed.

                                                                      I don't expect him to be in my line-up long; I'm hoping he comes out firing so I can trade him for a closer
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