Nicklas Backstrom-Best pick up at trade deadline?

PuckOff · 03-02-09, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by blittydeuce

Top 5 goalie. who gets him?

please say ducks swap Giguere somewhere and pick him up

If Backstrom is dealt then it will likely be to a team in the Eastern Conference. Minny would be crazy to trade him to a team in the West as it could come back to haunt them for years. He'd fetch a very nice return that's for sure. Another rental trade for a desperate team looking for goaltending i.e. Philly, Washington.

element1286 · 03-02-09, 09:44 PM

Originally posted by PuckOff

If Backstrom is dealt then it will likely be to a team in the Eastern Conference. Minny would be crazy to trade him to a team in the West as it could come back to haunt them for years. He'd fetch a very nice return that's for sure. Another rental trade for a desperate team looking for goaltending i.e. Philly, Washington.

Agreed, Philly or Washington.

Immortality · 03-02-09, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by blittydeuce

Top 5 goalie. who gets him?

please say ducks swap Giguere somewhere and pick him up

Unfortunately Blitty, we are sellers not buyers.

wild willy · 03-02-09, 09:48 PM

Phil wants him for sure no secret there.
Phil has problem with the cap big problems there already comited to 46 million next year.
There been talk of lupol sorry if spelling is not correct,also briere and gagne have been mentioned.
The cap is good for hockey but really screws up some blockbuster deals

blittydeuce · 03-02-09, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Immortality

Unfortunately Blitty, we are sellers not buyers.

Your probably right

Wow..2 Nicklas Backstrom's on 1 team...

Washington would win it all if he went there

element1286 · 03-02-09, 09:52 PM

Originally posted by wild willy

Phil wants him for sure no secret there.
Phil has problem with the cap big problems there already comited to 46 million next year.
There been talk of lupol sorry if spelling is not correct,also briere and gagne have been mentioned.
The cap is good for hockey but really screws up some blockbuster deals

Good point. Philly has no cap flexibility. I don't see anyone taking Briere, he is soft, oft-injured, and has a horrible contract. Lupul and Gagne are very marketable. Minnesota would be looking for offense in return.

blittydeuce · 03-02-09, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Good point. Philly has no cap flexibility. I don't see anyone taking Briere, he is soft, oft-injured, and has a horrible contract. Lupul and Gagne are very marketable. Minnesota would be looking for offense in return.

Maybe throw Gaborik in there for some huge blockbuster trade to a team....

PuckOff · 03-02-09, 09:55 PM

Originally posted by element1286

Good point. Philly has no cap flexibility. I don't see anyone taking Briere, he is soft, oft-injured, and has a horrible contract. Lupul and Gagne are very marketable. Minnesota would be looking for offense in return.

Oft-injured??? Maybe this year, but he's not oft-injured. I doubt Philly would trade Gagne, but anything is possible.

element1286 · 03-02-09, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by PuckOff

Oft-injured??? Maybe this year, but he's not oft-injured. I doubt Philly would trade Gagne, but anything is possible.

For some reason I was thinking Briere was hurt a lot last year, but he wasn't so my mistake. Either way he is soft and horrible defensively. I don't see them moving Gagne either, Lupul seems like the most likely to move.

element1286 · 03-02-09, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by blittydeuce

Maybe throw Gaborik in there for some huge blockbuster trade to a team....

That is a lot of salary to clear. Gaborik and Backstrom have a cap hit of almost 10 million this year, but it would be fun.

wild willy · 03-02-09, 10:01 PM

True. now the question is what can the minnesota's cap can handle and does gagne or lopul have trade clause's . And with the messed up office that phil has been running of late I'm not even sure what prospects and draft picks are left after getting guys like the three mentioned and throw biron in there as well.
If your a phil fan I'm not putting your team down. And yes give credit to managmen't for making the playoffs rather consistenly but they really handcuffed themselves with the cap I don't think they will get a far deal for backstrom if they can pull off a trade.
Minnie knows this and know's there desperate and could get players in this deal that they use, and don't even care they resign and this could cripple phil yrs down the road

element1286 · 03-02-09, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by wild willy

True. now the question is what can the minnesota's cap can handle and does gagne or lopul have trade clause's . And know the messed up office that phil has been running of late I'm not even sure what prospects and draft picks are left after getting guys like the three mentioned and throw biron in there as well.
If your a phil fan I'm not putting your team down. And yes give credit to managmen't for making the playoffs rather consistenly but they really handcuffed themselves with the cap I don't think they will get a far deal for backsrom if they can pull off a trade.
Minnie knows this a know there desperate a could get players in this deal that they use a don't even care they resign and this could cripple phil yrs down the road

I agree with this.

wild willy · 03-02-09, 10:05 PM

If phil can clear cap space gagne is packing his bags. But yes your right others will be first if possible

PuckOff · 03-03-09, 09:30 AM

I'm hearing Koivu to Minny for Gaborik. Montreal wants to get rid of Koivu.

wild willy · 03-03-09, 09:56 AM

That could be possible Kooivu;s little brother is in minnisota and montreal has plenty of cap room.
Do you think this will be a sraight up trade?

element1286 · 03-03-09, 10:04 AM

Edmonton Sun reported that Lupul and JvR were offered for Bouwmeester, which is a huge overpayment, even with that Philly would have to clear salary.

PuckOff · 03-03-09, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by wild willy

That could be possible Kooivu;s little brother is in minnisota and montreal has plenty of cap room.
Do you think this will be a sraight up trade?

It's hard to say. Koivu is signed on for another season while Gaborik is UFA at season's end. Gaborik has some injury history so Montreal might request a pick/prospect as well. Word has it that Koivu's teammates hate him and feel he is not a true leader. There are other issues, but there's no sense reporting it.

wild willy · 03-03-09, 10:24 AM

I believe Koivu is also a free agent but one thing I know for sure is he has a no trade clause.
i wanted to add I think the guy who thought of that clause should be shot.

PuckOff · 03-03-09, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by element1286

Edmonton Sun reported that Lupul and JvR were offered for Bouwmeester, which is a huge overpayment, even with that Philly would have to clear salary.

Element I always seem to be slamming your take on things. I'm not trying to piss you off, but there's no way that Florida would do this deal without a pick going to Florida as well.

PuckOff · 03-03-09, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by wild willy

I believe Koivu is also a free agent but one thing I know for sure is he has a no trade clause.
i wanted to add I think the guy who thought of that clause should be shot.

The NTC will be on the way out when the current collective bargaining agreement expires.

VegasDave · 03-03-09, 10:29 AM

All due respect to Backstrom, as he is an excellent goaltender, if someone does trade for him they will almost certainly be overpaying.

The Minnesota Wild play such a shutdown defense first system that it really makes it easy for goaltenders to excel.

Granted, Backstrom has been particularly good; but I'd like to see him outside of the Wild system before I pay a huge price for him.

PuckOff · 03-03-09, 10:34 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmmm NJD play a sound defensive game and has for years. that is like saying Brodeur may not be able to handle playing for a weak defensive team and let's be honest Dave you and I know that isn't the case. He is the best goalie of all time. Or will be in a couple weeks time.

PuckOff · 03-03-09, 10:35 AM

Teams overpay at the deadline all the time Dave. Even for rental players.

wild willy · 03-03-09, 10:36 AM

The trade could be possible without a pick in the curren't Nhl because of cap restrictions if there's not a lot of buyers and forida wants to trade boumiester,they could have to settle for less then market value.
Philly wants 2 things .
1. Find a true 1 goaltender
2 Try to loosen the cap cuffs.
Picking up boumiester eliminates both of these goals.
But what about a deal with montreal,they got the cap room and could use boumiesters size and skill on def , and lots of young talent in the farm system and free agents.
But lets be real 29 other teams could also use boumiester

wild willy · 03-03-09, 10:40 AM

Dave's not the only one that feels this way.
Broduer is great,hall of famer,gentleman,never turned his country down.
But lets be honest would he have the wins or shutouts playing for the Ilanders or florida or other teams that have struggled consitently over the last decade.
And yes whoever picks up backstrom will certanily over pay

VegasDave · 03-03-09, 11:06 AM

Originally posted by PuckOff

Teams overpay at the deadline all the time Dave. Even for rental players.

Completely standard practice.

My point is, if I'm going to ship away a top prospect, a first round pick, and a solid skater, I'd like to get a proven commodity in return; and I don't think Backstrom is that.

No doubt he'll be an upgrade for some of these contenders, though.

element1286 · 03-03-09, 11:11 AM

Originally posted by PuckOff

Teams overpay at the deadline all the time Dave. Even for rental players.

That doesn't make it right.

wild willy · 03-03-09, 11:11 AM

Biron had a great series against montreal and at times looks good but is too small to be a 1 goalie.
I believe phil will probally pick him up and futher handcuff themselves.
They could really screw things up if there not careful.
How they pull off this trade bafuls me.
with cap restrictions and no trade clauses.
But other then jeff carter I think everyone in that organization has probally at least talked to a real estate agent.

PuckOff · 03-03-09, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by wild willy

Biron had a great series against montreal and at times looks good but is too small to be a 1 goalie.

The guy is 6'1" man

element1286 · 03-03-09, 11:48 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3948480

Espn.com, Backstrom was extended four years, 24 million by the Wild.

VegasDave · 03-03-09, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by element1286

http://sports.espn.go.com/nhl/news/story?id=3948480

Espn.com, Backstrom was extended four years, 24 million by the Wild.

Great move for them!

element1286 · 03-03-09, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by VegasDave

Great move for them!

It is, they needed to keep him.

VegasDave · 03-03-09, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by element1286

It is, they needed to keep him.

Definitely. When you have a defense first team and find a perfect fit at goalie, you hang on to it.

Scully · 03-03-09, 03:19 PM

The Flyers main problem is clearly in nets; not on defense. Backstrom before Baumeester. Lupol and Upshaw have to be marketable candidates. Simon Gagne won't be traded in my opinion. Acquiring Backstrom would also mean Niittimaki or Biron would be expendable. The Flyers also have a couple of youngsters on the farm that would be considered trade bait. Biron and the Flyers made it to the Conference finals last season but they didn't win the Cup and that's what counts in the end. This team has needed a bonified starter for years on end and it's the first thing mentioned when the team's setbacks are discussed.