Marxism-Leninism Is Coming to America

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  • obama our lord
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 12-24-08
    • 562

    #1
    Marxism-Leninism Is Coming to America


    In his book ''Das Kapital,'' Karl Marx wrote ominously in 1867: "Owners of capital will stimulate the working class to buy more and more of expensive goods, houses, and technology, pushing them to take more and more expensive credits, until their debt becomes unbearable. The unpaid debt will lead to bankruptcy of banks, which will have to be nationalized and the State will have to take the road which will eventually lead to Communism."

    It helps to have willing accomplices in the White House and in Congress. Sadly, Marx's prediction is eerily wending its way through the American system.

    A new Fox Dynamics Poll really shows how much trouble we currently have in America. Universal food? Should the government provide food for every person? In the Fox Poll, 68% say yes. Healthcare? 66% say yes. Housing? 52% say yes. A job, 51% say yes.

    Also, 51% of Americans today say everybody who wants one should be provided a job. People haven't been taught why socialism is bad. We can no longer sit back, just go to work, and assume that everything is going to be okay. America voted for "change." Contrary to what conservatives have been saying, the Fox Poll seems to indicate that the voters may very well have known exactly the type of change they wanted. Is there any doubt that Obama, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, and Majority Leader Harry Reid are going to attempt to deliver European-style socialism to America by the end of 2010?

    Or, would it be more correct to say that they are going to deliver "more than socialism"? Nationalizing banks and dictating to private corporations is beyond socialism; we are moving towards a Marxist State. When the Obama stimulus package fails, as it will, there will be a demand for more government. This is exactly what happened in the 1930s.

    The difference between the 1930s and now is that we are already a long way down the road; Roosevelt was just building the foundation for socialism back then. In 1930, federal spending as a percent of GDP was 4.4%, compared to 20% today--before the bailouts and stimulus packages are added. When California state and local taxes are added, we have a 35.5% ratio between taxes and GDP. That is the average for all Californians. Since we have a progressive tax, and since over 1/3 of all California workers pay no federal or state income taxes, imagine what the average is for the average taxpayer.

    If you aren't concerned about what President Obama is trying to do to the United States, you aren't paying attention. He is striking while the iron is hot. He is capitalizing on his electoral victory in November, 2008, and instituting the visions of V.I. Lenin, who promoted the following:

    "Deepen, exacerbate existing problems, crises, differences, and if they don't exist, create them or convincingly claim that they exist, and then deepen, exacerbate them...and profit [politically, ideologically and even financially] the most from them in any way you can, and, in the resulting chaos, blame our enemies for the whole thing." - Vladimir Ilich Ulianov (Lenin)

    The American founders provided its descendants the land of opportunity. The United States has been a magnet for those seeking freedom, liberty, and the "pursuit of happiness." For more than two centuries, America has been the beacon of hope for a better life. It was never intended to be a guarantee of happiness. By its very nature, life provides its ups and downs for everyone. In America, we have had the freedom to succeed or fail based on our God-given talents and abilities.

    Some can run and jump like Lebron James while others can sing like Celine Dion. Still others can make technological breakthroughs like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, while others entertain us like Clint Eastwood. Some have business acumen, and some can do wonderful things with their hands--whether it be a pianist or a sculptor. Some people are outgoing extroverts while others are more analytical. VIve la difference.

    Up until now, America has attracted and encouraged a unique brand of Exceptionalism. By invoking the word "Change," and taking advantage of a financial challenge similar to many we have survived over the years, President Obama is seeking to fundamentally change the very foundation of our society by applying the famous Marxist edict without saying it in so many words: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."

    On June 5, 1778, Patrick Henry said in a speech at the Virginia Ratifying Convention: "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect every one who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined."

    If now is not time for another major Tea Party, there never will be a time.
  • MilfDriller
    Restricted User
    • 11-23-08
    • 10186

    #2
    I love monkeys
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    • wtf
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 08-22-08
      • 12983

      #3
      well there is no turning back

      enjoy the ride and try to profit from it
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      • MilfDriller
        Restricted User
        • 11-23-08
        • 10186

        #4
        did the Knicks profit from Isiaih's leadership?

        did the Huskies profit from Ty Willingham's leadership?


        these are real questions that society says are un-axe-able
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        • wtf
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 08-22-08
          • 12983

          #5
          he has a strong mandate at present there is nothing that could be done

          he could have simply reduced taxes and the dow would be at 11-12k today
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          • bettilimbroke999
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 02-04-08
            • 13254

            #6
            Truth is wtf there is no preventing the end of America, hell someone told me the other day in 50 years Spanish will be the main language in US, Mexicans will be the majority, then blacks, then whites and whites will only become a smaller percentage after that. Do you really think the blacks who use public schools just as a place to get a free lunch and meet new gang members and mexicans who wont even put in enough energy to speak basic english in whats supposedly an english only country that they are invading will suddenly put in the massive effort to get off the govt tit and do something with their lives, fuk no, our prisons will be overflowing, welfare will be twice the GDP, tax rate will be 99%.

            America is socialist already and it will only get worse, get as much of the free money as you can pretty soon this country will be a complete hellhole.
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            • slacker00
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 10-06-05
              • 12262

              #7
              Communism is already here. It's just a matter of degree.
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              • wtf
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 08-22-08
                • 12983

                #8
                bet, the scenario you painted is actually possible with obama's policies.

                and it is highly probable.

                in the uber PC world we live in it is impossible to say anything without being branded a racist. remember when they toyed with the idea of giving emancipation for all the illegals?

                could you imagine any other country allowing millions of illegals marching to the white house, and anyone opposed was a bona fide racist.

                the country is changing. i myself will never return.
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                • Willie Bee
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-14-06
                  • 15726

                  #9
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                  • bettilimbroke999
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 02-04-08
                    • 13254

                    #10
                    Who knows maybe well luck out when the Mexicans and blacks take over and have a country as good as Mexico or the countries in Sub-Saharan Africa
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                    • slacker00
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 10-06-05
                      • 12262

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wtf
                      millions of illegals marching to the white house, and anyone opposed was a bona fide racist.
                      wtf?
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                      • 20Four7
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 04-08-07
                        • 6703

                        #12
                        funny it seemed to me that GW Bush "nationalized" first, prior to Obama. He took over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, AIC.

                        In 1983 the US government took over continental Illinois (6th largest bank at the time), never mind the thrift's in the 1990's. The FDIC has taken over banks from time to time.

                        I'm sorry, your sky is falling routine doesn't work for me.
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                        • bettilimbroke999
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-04-08
                          • 13254

                          #13
                          Yep the current systems will last forever 20Four they're perfect, thats why u see so many blacks and mexicans (the future majorities of this country) opening up successful business and succeeding insteading of becomin nothin but retards that suck the government dry by having 6 kids that average costing 150k each to get to 18 when they make about 15k a year, yep you're right this shit will never hit the fan in the future when they're a majority
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                          • UntilTheNDofTimE
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 05-29-08
                            • 9285

                            #14
                            have u ever seen a Mexican bum? Mexicans hustle for their money and there the hardest working people around. They take the shit jobs that nobody else wants and they dont complain, Im white but you cant sit here and talk shit and say there lazy shit.
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                            • bettilimbroke999
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-04-08
                              • 13254

                              #15
                              The illegals work their ass off b/c they cant apply for welfare, Im talkin about the Mexicans that were born in this country and suck it dry from the moment they get their free hospital stay when their born til when they have their 10th kid, get a clue the poor citizens in this country make more doing nothing than they would getting a low paying job, no reason to work unless you're getting paid under the table and can keep your welfare benefits, whats ur reward oh hey u got money ok pay your own medical bills, oh u made enough money okay we take ur food stamps away, u made enough money we take your 80% reduced housing away, etc. etc. etc.
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                              • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 05-29-08
                                • 9285

                                #16
                                what is welfare 400 a month?
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                                • bettilimbroke999
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 02-04-08
                                  • 13254

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by UntilTheNDofTimE
                                  what is welfare 400 a month?
                                  Good question, depends on whether u claim some sort of disability which basically anybody with a sore thumb can get these days. Food stamps avg 210 per month per person, housing saving 550 for 150 save u 400, disability 600+ a month, medicare saving 300 month, theres many more programs u can use to milk the country dry, Im not an expert on this as Im white and thus dont qualify, that the first box on the form are you white or minority if white proceed to go get a job
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                                  • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 05-29-08
                                    • 9285

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by bettilimbroke999
                                    Good question, depends on whether u claim some sort of disability which basically anybody with a sore thumb can get these days. Food stamps avg 210 per month per person, housing saving 550 for 150 save u 400, disability 600+ a month, medicare saving 300 month, theres many more programs u can use to milk the country dry, Im not an expert on this as Im white and thus dont qualify, that the first box on the form are you white or minority if white proceed to go get a job

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                                    • Data
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 11-27-07
                                      • 2236

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by obama our lord
                                      This has been pretty much my sentiment lately. I (legally) moved to the US a bit more than 10 years ago having lived most of my life in a socialist country. I came to the country what was a leader of the free world. I know first hand how horrible socialism is in practice. I had academically studied the theories behind and I know how wrong they are on theoretical level as well. It upsets me greatly finding out how many citizens of the country I was hoping to be my new home sympathize with the ideas that are in line with what I hoped I left behind.

                                      Perhaps, I am one of the very few people here who know who Lenin was and how similar him and Obama are. Both are brilliant scholars, speakers and demagogues who came to power in a country that was suffering from unsuccessful wars and incompetent government.

                                      The disappointing, to say the least, history lesson teaches us that Obama will prevail just like Lenin did. The US is no longer a country it once was. Why? The population culture changed. It is no longer "Go West and work your ass off" attitude that is the country's motto. It is more and more like "they ("they" may wary) screwed (the way of "screwing" may wary) me and now they have to pay for this". That is precisely the sentiment of the masses of lumpens who brought commies to power and their country to ruins.
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                                      • Dark Horse
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-14-05
                                        • 13764

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Data
                                        Perhaps, I am one of the very few people here who know who Lenin was and how similar him and Obama are. Both are brilliant scholars, speakers and demagogues who came to power in a country that was suffering from unsuccessful wars and incompetent government.
                                        Lenin and Obama aren't similar at all. Communism was a movement, and a reaction to the out of control aristocracy in mother Russia. It was sold as everybody being equal. Nothing like that is happening in America today. Not even close.

                                        We may, however, move closer to European standards. We won't go all the way to socialism, but we will move more in that direction, not because there is some 'ism' behind it, but because eight years of neocon ideology have widened the chasm between rich and poor to the breaking point.

                                        The amusing thing is that guys like BBD, who was earning money as a forum moderator, feel it necessary to stand up for those with extreme wealth.
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                                        • ryanXL977
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 02-24-08
                                          • 20615

                                          #21
                                          Rush Limbaugh has cemented his GOP "party leadership" role as the unapologetic spokesman for the "Mad as Hell" crowd of the top 1% of wealthy Americans who see Limbaugh as a Gift for God because of his ability to lure low income white Americans into thinking that they are victims of big government, minorities, and Feminism. And while Limbaugh has played the Pied Piper to the hilt, the ultra wealthy continue to pickpocket and ruin the economic opportunities for Rush's "lowbrow audience" that gets its feeling of victim hood daily stoked by the hedonist (and with which sex remains open to question), Oxycontin illegal drug use, and $40 million dollar man.
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                                          • bettilimbroke999
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-04-08
                                            • 13254

                                            #22
                                            ryan you're nuts, its not about being the victim of the minorities its about ppl trying to succeed versus simply being paid to do nothing, contrary to the dems popular belief you cant turn everything around by just giving everyone a million dollars, its also about a country that gives so much welfare that it borders on socialism so every Central American jumps the fence to have their kids here to further milk the cash cow, it destroys an economy when the lower class simply have their bank account filled by the middle and upper class for doing nothing and forced by mathematics to avoid ever doing anything that would lead to their prosperity and independence b/c its uneconomical.
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                                            • MonkeyF0cker
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 06-12-07
                                              • 12144

                                              #23
                                              There is no one to blame but the greedy banks and lenders who put us in this mess to begin with. Deregulated markets have nearly always created preditory atmospheres. It is a perfect example of why unregulated capitalism does not work. There must be a balance. Perhaps, people in this thread should read some history books. No one in the Obama administration is promoting flat out socialism. But it becomes apparent with the economic status of the wealthy vs. middle class and the current state of our economy that some balance must be restored. Why do you people panic so easily? Maybe, you should wait to see if his plans show results.
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                                              • UntilTheNDofTimE
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 05-29-08
                                                • 9285

                                                #24
                                                Although im no expert in the field so i wont share my ignorance its good to no some of u actually have a brain and see other numbers besides lines n totals
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                                                • MonkeyF0cker
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 06-12-07
                                                  • 12144

                                                  #25
                                                  Pretty funny comments, bettilimbroke, considering that Clinton signed the largest welfare reform bill in American history which essentially prevents your entire argument from happening. Where exactly has the Obama administration expanded welfare to make this a plausible concern?
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                                                  • Richkas
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 02-03-08
                                                    • 19396

                                                    #26
                                                    I am glad I have a life.
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                                                    • MonkeyF0cker
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 06-12-07
                                                      • 12144

                                                      #27
                                                      People from Mexico and South America often move here for probably the very same reason your ancestors did: opportunity. Why do you assume every immigrant or illegal alien is here for a handout? That's absurdity.
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                                                      • ryanXL977
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 02-24-08
                                                        • 20615

                                                        #28
                                                        nothing like blaming the poor and minorities for the ills of a nation
                                                        pretty funny i think to blame guys who get $6 an hour for where we are at.

                                                        you guys should learn what communism and socialism are before you throw the words around. i guess we need to invade more third world oil nations, that will show the world how tough we are!
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                                                        • crisp
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-02-08
                                                          • 1377

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by MilfDriller
                                                          I love monkeys
                                                          i don't
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                                                          • InTheHole
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-28-08
                                                            • 15243

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                            Rush Limbaugh has cemented his GOP "party leadership" role as the unapologetic spokesman for the "Mad as Hell" crowd of the top 1% of wealthy Americans who see Limbaugh as a Gift for God because of his ability to lure low income white Americans into thinking that they are victims of big government, minorities, and Feminism. And while Limbaugh has played the Pied Piper to the hilt, the ultra wealthy continue to pickpocket and ruin the economic opportunities for Rush's "lowbrow audience" that gets its feeling of victim hood daily stoked by the hedonist (and with which sex remains open to question), Oxycontin illegal drug use, and $40 million dollar man.
                                                            Wow...50 million rich listeners
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                                                            • InTheHole
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 04-28-08
                                                              • 15243

                                                              #31
                                                              Correct that a minimum of 13.5 million listeners weekly on the AM dial
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                                                              • ryanXL977
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 02-24-08
                                                                • 20615

                                                                #32
                                                                reread my post please
                                                                i didnt say only rich listened.

                                                                the top 1% love him because of his ability to lure the lower class to the edge of the cliff.
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                                                                • InTheHole
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-28-08
                                                                  • 15243

                                                                  #33
                                                                  ^ for 25 years
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                                                                  • ryanXL977
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 02-24-08
                                                                    • 20615

                                                                    #34
                                                                    yep
                                                                    you are not disproving my point. you are aware of that right?
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                                                                    • InTheHole
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-28-08
                                                                      • 15243

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Not trying to but you have to give the guy credit....I mean the President of the United States is calling him out along with Hannity. Are these talk show hosts that powerful lol
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