I'm actually one of the few that thinks he's a very good quarterback. And I would not be surprised to see the Bears in the NFC Championship the next 2 years.
damn cutler
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Roy HalladaySBR MVP
- 09-27-10
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#36Comment -
packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-13
- 17823
#383 Years is a long time in the NFL,how old will Marshall be by then.Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63172
#39let's talk about cutting old man Peppers and his inflated salaryComment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63172
#40he only has 1 year left on his contract anyways
but to answer the question he is 29 and he'll be 30 entering next year.
Cutler is 11 months older.
so in 3 football seasons
Marshall will be 32
Cutler will be 33
Quarterbacks have a longer shelf life, so if the Bears can keep Marshall (he wants to stay) I'd be more concerned with the WR's age as they drop off quicker and QB's seem to be able to last longer.
in the mean time, i'm not sure that the Bears could bring in a QB for the 1 year left on Marshall's contract and youth and do any better.Comment -
jjgoldSBR Aristocracy
- 07-20-05
- 388179
#41Cutler is 8–8 type of QB
He will have some good games and bad games but most will be mediocre gamesComment -
oilerSBR Hall of Famer
- 06-06-09
- 6585
#42but why would u invest in a quarterback ,who in the last few years,have been injury prone.not saying they shouldn't of signed him but not for 7 years..sounds like another albert pujols contractComment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63172
#43Bears are 39-28 in games Cutler has started in his career there
that is 68% winning percentage or
10.94 wins
vs
5.04 losses
in a 16 game season
in his career John Elway won 64%
he also didn't really win anything till he was well past 35.Comment -
tto827SBR Hall of Famer
- 10-01-12
- 9078
#44Here's a fun fact. Jay Cutler has NEVER had a season with a td/int ratio better than +7.
That is absolutely abysmal for a QB making 17 mil a year.
For comparisons sake... Tom Brady's worst season ever, his rookie year, he had a TD/int of +11.
If cutler comes out next year with this stat line:
62% completions
4,000 yards
34 touchdowns
20 interceptions
It would be BY FAR his best season ever and still not worth 17 mil a year. I just don't get it.
If anyone likes the bears season win total under, you better hit it quick, cause I'm putting every last penny I can scrape up on it.Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63172
#45
I think all in all he has been quite durable considering he has a top 3 worst o-line every year.
guy had some freak injuries but i'm not sure that i'm willing to say he will always get hurt. Hell every NFL player is injury prone, its just stats.Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63172
#46
they can get rid of Cutler any time they want, I think they pretty much locked themselves into 3 years that way the 56 million garuanteed money is set up, then they can cut him without too much cap hit in 2017 if need be.
years don't matter in NFL like MLBComment -
SteveKerrsJunkSBR MVP
- 10-25-13
- 2706
#47Fuuuuuuuuuuuucccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk k you jay!!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39995
#48Exactly, that's why they couldn't risk letting Cutler go. Marshall probably has 3-4 years left, tops. And Jeffery should be at his best next 3-4 and Forte maybe 2-3 years. Not that they couldn't replace those guys eventually, but they have to strike while the iron is hot and somehow bring the defense up to snuff. Bears were a .500ish team because the defense was among the 2-3 worst in the league. If it was average, they'd be a legit threat. That's the challenge.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39995
#49Here's a fun fact. Jay Cutler has NEVER had a season with a td/int ratio better than +7.
That is absolutely abysmal for a QB making 17 mil a year.
For comparisons sake... Tom Brady's worst season ever, his rookie year, he had a TD/int of +11.
If cutler comes out next year with this stat line:
62% completions
4,000 yards
34 touchdowns
20 interceptions
It would be BY FAR his best season ever and still not worth 17 mil a year. I just don't get it.
If anyone likes the bears season win total under, you better hit it quick, cause I'm putting every last penny I can scrape up on it.Comment -
opie1988SBR Posting Legend
- 09-12-10
- 23429
#50
That's a boatload of money, but it's hard to argue that he doesn't deserve it. There are certainly Bears fans out there who will complain about this signing and argue that the team should have jettisoned Cutler in favor of Josh McCown, but those people are dumb. Today's NFL is a quarterback's league, and one that sees teams slog through deeply depressing seasons with guys like Mike Glennon, Brandon Weeden, and Blaine Gabbert starting. Quarterbacks who can actually play are not easy to find, and the ones that can deserve to get paid.
(Last part isn't mine, but I completely agree with it.)Comment -
jizaySBR Wise Guy
- 08-07-09
- 975
#5139-28 is 58%, not 68%. The difference is not small. Didn't you bother to extrapolate that 10.9-5? That's over twice as many wins as losses.Comment -
d2betsBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 08-10-05
- 39995
#52True, but he made a good point on Elway. Elway was supposedly a loser, until he wasn't. Hell, Michael Jordan didn't win anything his first 7 years. Things change.Comment -
Chi_archieSBR Aristocracy
- 07-22-08
- 63172
#54here is a good site for bear or deep NFL fans
I'm not a bear fan per se, but it is interesting to see what they have on the books
you can see all teams via that site
TOP 51 $60,978,722 $14,990,108 $1,350,000 $1,235,000 $78,553,830 TOTAL $60,978,722 $14,990,108 $1,350,000 $1,235,000 $78,553,830 Julius Peppers $13,900,000 $4,183,333 $0 $100,000 $18,183,333 $8,366,668 $9,816,665 Brandon Marshall $9,100,000 $0 $0 $200,000 $9,300,000 $0 $9,300,000 Matt Forte $5,550,000 $1,000,000 $850,000 $100,000 $7,500,000 $2,000,000 $5,500,000 Jermon Bushrod $5,000,000 $2,200,000 $0 $100,000 $7,300,000 $8,800,000 ($1,500,000) Lance Briggs $4,750,000 $1,000,000 $500,000 $250,000 $6,500,000 $1,000,000 $5,500,000 Martellus Bennett $4,800,000 $1,125,000 $0 $100,000 $6,025,000 $3,375,000 $2,650,000 Michael Bush $2,800,000 $1,000,000 $0 $50,000 $3,850,000 $2,000,000 $1,850,000 Earl Bennett $2,350,000 $0 $0 $100,000 $2,450,000 $0 $2,450,000 Shea McClellin $1,141,218 $1,112,436 $0 $0 $2,253,654 $4,141,690 ($1,888,036) Kyle Long $782,316 $1,104,264 $0 $0 $1,886,580 $6,031,898 ($4,145,318) Adam Podlesh $1,400,000 $400,000 $0 $25,000 $1,825,000 $800,000 $1,025,000 Eric Weems $1,000,000 $500,000 $0 $100,000 $1,600,000 $500,000 $1,100,000 Alshon Jeffery $753,438 $436,879 $0 $50,000 $1,240,317 $873,758 $366,559 Stephen Paea $827,623 $295,164 $0 $50,000 $1,172,787 $295,164 $877,623 Jon Bostic $584,127 $311,509 $0 $0 $895,636 $1,518,654 ($623,018) Chris Conte $645,000 $133,400 $0 $10,000 $788,400 $133,400 $655,000 Khaseem Greene $495,000 $108,023 $0 $0 $603,023 $324,069 $278,954 Jerry Franklin $570,000 $0 $0 $0 $570,000 $0 $570,000 James Brown $570,000 $0 $0 $0 $570,000 $0 $570,000 Cheta Ozougwu $570,000 $0 $0 $0 $570,000 $0 $570,000 Jordan Mills $495,000 $41,200 $0 $0 $536,200 $123,600 $412,600 Cornelius Washington $495,000 $25,947 $0 $0 $520,947 $77,841 $443,106 Marquess Wilson $495,000 $11,787 $0 $0 $506,787 $35,361 $471,426 Michael Ford $495,000 $1,166 $0 $0 $496,166 $2,334 $493,832 Isaiah Frey $495,000 $0 $0 $0 $495,000 $0 $495,000 David Bass $495,000 $0 $0 $0 $495,000 $0 $495,000 Joe Long $420,000 $0 $0 $0 $420,000 $0 $420,000 Comment -
packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-13
- 17823
#56he only has 1 year left on his contract anyways
but to answer the question he is 29 and he'll be 30 entering next year.
Cutler is 11 months older.
so in 3 football seasons
Marshall will be 32
Cutler will be 33
Quarterbacks have a longer shelf life, so if the Bears can keep Marshall (he wants to stay) I'd be more concerned with the WR's age as they drop off quicker and QB's seem to be able to last longer.
in the mean time, i'm not sure that the Bears could bring in a QB for the 1 year left on Marshall's contract and youth and do any better.
QB's do have a much longer shelf life, if you look at two of the best Qb's in the game Manning and Brady there hitting their late 30's. I cant think of many wr's that are able to stick around that long and still even be productive.Comment -
packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-13
- 17823
#57Exactly, that's why they couldn't risk letting Cutler go. Marshall probably has 3-4 years left, tops. And Jeffery should be at his best next 3-4 and Forte maybe 2-3 years. Not that they couldn't replace those guys eventually, but they have to strike while the iron is hot and somehow bring the defense up to snuff. Bears were a .500ish team because the defense was among the 2-3 worst in the league. If it was average, they'd be a legit threat. That's the challenge.
Be interesting to see what happens. Do you think they might hire Brian Urlacher to help out with the defense.Comment -
thetrinitySBR Posting Legend
- 01-25-11
- 22431
#58awful signing. guy hasnt made a pro bowl since 2008 in denver. the defense is horrible anyways.Comment -
k13SBR Posting Legend
- 07-16-10
- 18104
#59I guess not as bad as the flacco deal....lol
Or is it?
Has no potential to be any better than he is.Comment -
EmpireMakerSBR Posting Legend
- 06-18-09
- 15583
#60Cutler is only going to count 6 mill a yr toward the cap for the first 3 years leaving them a lot of cap space.... Bears are in really good shape in that regard nowComment -
BennyBigNutsSBR Hall of Famer
- 04-16-12
- 8700
#61
If he has to do it himself he is not capable due to the lack of the mental part of the game.
Extreme TILT Qb. Rages way too easily and is very stubborn.
Will never have the head game to be elite, but most likely possessed the tools.Comment -
meader99SBR MVP
- 10-30-10
- 4223
#62We aren't seriously mentioning Elways name here in the same breath as Cutler are we? Elway took hapless Bronco teams to 3 Super Bowls. What do you suppose Cutler would have done with those same Bronco teams?Comment -
lakerboySBR Aristocracy
- 04-02-09
- 94379
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tony_comeSBR Posting Legend
- 03-31-10
- 21695
#64John Anyway never heard of himComment -
Ernie MccrackenSBR MVP
- 09-11-11
- 1986
#65What else are the bears going to do? They have rock star receivers, an offensive minded coach, and an O-line that is not worst in the league anymore.
Risk it all on a draft pick? Another retread? Cutler is an a-hole who has been injured a lot, but guy has a cannon for an arm and is good enough to get to the big game.Comment -
byronbbSBR MVP
- 11-13-08
- 3067
#66
lol
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jizaySBR Wise Guy
- 08-07-09
- 975
#67Comment -
jtolerBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 12-17-13
- 30967
#68NFL and its rationale has been screwed up for a long time. Ok you dont think McCown is your qb of future fine, but Id much rather pay McCown say 3 or 4 mil and let him be my game manager and even a little more than that during the game than pay Cutler all that money when you know he's as reckless as they come, but thats always how the dummies in pro sports work.Comment -
therocketSBR Wise Guy
- 01-08-12
- 869
#69Jay finally has a coach. A coach that is offensive minded and a system that plays to his strengths. He has the weapons and o line. With time in the same system and an improved D the bears will be a perennial contender for the next 5 years.Comment -
packerd_00SBR Posting Legend
- 05-22-13
- 17823
#70Only if you can hang onto your other weapons, I have my doubts theyll be able to hangonto both Marshall and Jefferey after next year. Theyll more then likely let Marshall walk.Comment
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