**is another major former SBR sponsor book about to go under?

[jjgold]

TT get lost...dumb people have a lot of money in obscure books like BI

YOUR A FUKKIN IDIOT IF YOU DO..I have said it for 10 years and will say it for the next 10

Business as usual young boy

[tto827]

I stay away from young books for the most part.

Lose money at a place like fairlines and I'll laugh at you, having my employer pimp it then laugh at the people.... that's just rude.

Glad to know you don't trust SBR's ratings... should be very telling to anyone else with a clue.

[SportsMushroom]

nonsense, the ratings pages are full of stuff about who owns what

SCAM ALERT: Imposter sportsbook site from Apex Sportsbook owner

19.06.2009
BetPhoenixSports.com is designed to con players into believing they are actually playing with B+ rated BetPhoenix(BetPhoenix.com). The new cyber-squatting website uses the Phoenix brand but operates on the (SBR rating F) wagering platform. This is not the first time Robbie has tried to impersonate and capitalize on the reputation of other sportsbooks. Apex owner, Robbie (AKA Zach), is operating legendsportsbook.com which has attracted bettors looking for the real Legendz (SBR rating A+).

im the one posting nonsense? really?


the book is owned by robbie aka zach

yeah they are keeping you in the loop



thats how stupid people lost their money with BI, sbr was like 'hey kidz bet with BI, they are a solid book, its owned by a guy named jon aka sticky fingaz and he's from the hood'

and everyone was like, that sounds credibly, take my money jon




do you even realize all these are just nicknames? jon from betislands, wagerchief shawn, lenny from cascade? you think those are their real names, i can assure you some of them are the same person

a fool and their money...

[milwaukee mike]

im the one posting nonsense? really?


the book is owned by robbie aka zach

yeah they are keeping you in the loop

robbie is robbie M\*\*\*\*\*\*, that is the NAME OF THE OWNER. he calls himself zach on the phone or live chat.

so which is it? either they can post who the owners are or they can't?

[jjgold]

Ratings are tool like anything else here
Do searches, do research
Put it all together and make a choice
most ratings here are pretty accurate

Its not that hard men

best of luck

[frizzelli]

I know this information is useless to Americans. I have only had money in 1 book for the last 14 months and that is Pinny. If you are a non American you would be dumb not you. I've received E-cheques into my bank account within 20 hours of withdrawal.

[billysink]

Another truckload of horse shit for the kiddies to toss around.

My guess is there ain't three fukks here with a BOL balance higher than their damn IQ.

Every know it all, finger pointing, conspiracy theorist, doomsday crying, self anointed industry expert absolute fukkin nobody gonna stretch this already tired thread out for fourteen more pages and know less about shit than they did after post one.

Fukk Cares.

[raydog]

meatman had a deal at the start of football season (or around there) to make 3000 videos for them is what he posted at peeps, i believe ... great chance they told him to fukk off and thats why he is pulling their shit and starting the rumor that they are going bad... you always take a chance of being extemely slowpayed when you have money with bol anyways...

[Delicious]

Another truckload of horse shit for the kiddies to toss around.

My guess is there ain't three fukks here with a BOL balance higher than their damn IQ.

Every know it all, finger pointing, conspiracy theorist, doomsday crying, self anointed industry expert absolute fukkin nobody gonna stretch this already tired thread out for fourteen more pages and know less about shit than they did after post one.

Fukk Cares.

Guys who like early lines, multiple live betting options and high limits..... and they take US players

[SportsMushroom]

robbie is robbie M\*\*\*\*\*\*, that is the NAME OF THE OWNER. he calls himself zach on the phone or live chat.

so which is it? either they can post who the owners are or they can't?

so friggin what? do you know that is in fact his realy name? do you have a picture? do you know where he lives? do you know his financial situation? if shit goes down you'll be in here screaming your head off with caps locks but wont be able to do shit


take for example a book like bet365, you know all the owners by name, you know what they look like, you know where they live and you know their financial status, and if things go south you can actually take some action


when betislands run with peoples money nobody did shit cause nobody knew shit, if 5dimes closes shop or heritage? what you gonna do guy? you gonna fly down to costa rica asking people were you can find 'tony' cause he owes you some coin?

[milwaukee mike]

Another truckload of horse shit for the kiddies to toss around.

My guess is there ain't three fukks here with a BOL balance higher than their damn IQ.

Every know it all, finger pointing, conspiracy theorist, doomsday crying, self anointed industry expert absolute fukkin nobody gonna stretch this already tired thread out for fourteen more pages and know less about shit than they did after post one.

Fukk Cares.

none of us know anything, that is why we need some clarity from sbr. a confirmation of the ratings, some financial info, a statement about ownership. you know, the kind of things customers might want when choosing who to do business with.

might just be a rumor started by meatman, but it could still cause a run on the bank.

kind of sad that we wait for info from dave the meatman scandaliato, instead of hearing it from the industry watchdog sbr or from betonline themselves...

[milwaukee mike]

so friggin what? do you know that is in fact his realy name? do you have a picture? do you know where he lives? do you know his financial situation? if shit goes down you'll be in here screaming your head off with caps locks but wont be able to do shit


take for example a book like bet365, you know all the owners by name, you know what they look like, you know where they live and you know their financial status, and if things go south you can actually take some action


when betislands run with peoples money nobody did shit cause nobody knew shit

if it goes down i won't be screaming anything, in caps or otherwise. we don't know anything, but we should, that's my point. nobody did anything because what are they going to do? fly down to costa rica and kill someone over 10k?

[opie1988]

Nothing to see here. All is well. Business as usual.

Now...let's talk about Dallas/Philly. I have strong position on Dallas.

Thoughts?

[firedawg]

Nothing to see here. All is well. Business as usual.

Now...let's talk about Dallas/Philly. I have strong position on Dallas.

Thoughts?

[billysink]

Guys who like early lines, multiple live betting options and high limits..... and they take US players

So after a half a dozen 20+ indictment busts all initiated by the DOJ , another half dozen bump, grab and run shutdowns, affiliate scandals galore in reaction to that landscape, targeting anyone and everyone that has any connection to the US at all; fukks are still gonna hang their ass over that ledge for early lines, live bets and best of all .......high limits.

And they gonna rack up 14 fukkin pages of finger pointing, blame laying, tampax moment, bleeting like a stukk fukkin pig horse shit telling eachother that it is everyone's fault but their own when the business model is orchestrated to fruition.

You fukkin clowns don't need to clarify anything.

You need your damn heads read.

Sorry if that sounds harsh but fukk sakes alive this shit is lame.

[milwaukee mike]

billy, i don't see anyone going apeshit or having a tampax moment in this thread.

yes it's buyer beware, but getting additional info on a situation shouldn't be frowned upon or bashed.

betonline has been in contact with me, they are very friendly and respectful. responding in a professional manner is a big plus.

[No coincidences]

this is a great opportunity for sbr to regain some credibility with some openness and transparency. the ownership of an A- rated book should be well known by the reviewing site, i think it's one of the things the players should have knowledge of before sending our hard earned money there (or leaving it there).

a nice statement about the current financial position of betonline, showing $ amount of balances, along with the current assets and liabilities of the company, would be very helpful to all interested parties. if that amount is not available, then it is hard to justify an A financial rating, right?

I don't know man. That sounds like a lot of work....

[milwaukee mike]

Nothing to see here. All is well. Business as usual.

Now...let's talk about Dallas/Philly. I have strong position on Dallas.

Thoughts?

your position on dallas will be one of being bent over without any lube

[Delicious]

So after a half a dozen 20+ indictment busts all initiated by the DOJ , another half dozen bump, grab and run shutdowns, affiliate scandals galore in reaction to that landscape, targeting anyone and everyone that has any connection to the US at all; fukks are still gonna hang their ass over that ledge for early lines, live bets and best of all .......high limits.

And they gonna rack up 14 fukkin pages of finger pointing, blame laying, tampax moment, bleeting like a stukk fukkin pig horse shit telling eachother that it is everyone's fault but their own when the business model is orchestrated to fruition.

You fukkin clowns don't need to clarify anything.

You need your damn heads read.

Sorry if that sounds harsh but fukk sakes alive this shit is lame.

Believe it or not BillySink some guys still bet offshore. I will give you a pass for not knowing that because it seems you post exclusively at SBR.

[easyliving]

never deposited their and never will

[billysink]

billy, i don't see anyone going apeshit or having a tampax moment in this thread.

yes it's buyer beware, but getting additional info on a situation shouldn't be frowned upon or bashed.

betonline has been in contact with me, they are very friendly and respectful. responding in a professional manner is a big plus.

Mike I like you brother but you have been involved in more tampax moment threads here than just about anyone. If you were not looking for said reaction you would have titled the thread differently. But no, it has to scream conspiracy right from the get go.

If this shit is true shit gonna happen just like I said.

Best of luck with the situation.

I will read the rest of this one someday when I am extremely bored.

[No coincidences]

betonline has been in contact with me, they are very friendly and respectful. responding in a professional manner is a big plus.

Like I said, I hope it's all just bullshit given the fact that I think they're a decent book. They were always one of four I regularly played at (BOL, 5Dimes, SIA, Bovada). Never had issues with payouts or slow pay, but I've only requested anywhere from $800-1500 at a time.

Nice to know that they're communicating with you, but I don't really know what they would say -- that their ship is sinking and abandon as quickly as possible? I'd take what they say with a grain of salt obviously. We're all involved in a shady business, so like people have stated in this thread already, no one should assume their money is 100% safe at all times anywhere.

[No coincidences]

never deposited their and never will

Probably the easiest book to deposit at on the planet. That's what makes them such a public darling, I would assume.

[bigboydan]

Before another SBR book exit stage I hope they would at least discuss matters with me first.

[billysink]

Believe it or not BillySink some guys still bet offshore. I will give you a pass for not knowing that because it seems you post exclusively at SBR.

Kid I don't need your fukkin pass any more than you need to pass.

If you think I woul rely on any fukkin horse shit forum for offshore knowledge, be it SBR or any of the other horse bleep so called industry bellringers, you are dumber than you post.

Take a lap.

Fukk Am I doing talking to your silly ass I got no damn idea anyway.

[Sam Odom]

billy , you are cussing too much

relax a bit

thanks

[gauchojake]

They owe a player for like 6 moths now

[opie1988]

They owe a player for like 6 moths now

This made me chuckle.

Well played, gaucho

[gauchojake]

This made me chuckle.

Well played, gaucho

I was surprised no one else got in before me!

Happy New Year bud.

[RonPaul2008]

They paid a large amount like clockwork this morning, so this might just be a bunch of malarky.

[SBR_John]

SBR will contact them for an explanation to the Meatman rumor. This is a guy who touted Oddsmaker for many years knowing full well they were a scam. His claim that ownership contacted him I call total bs.

As for the current BOL rating, I think its fair. It's been an uneven path up to A- to be sure but they have come through and offer players a lot. It's a large operation with a solid 10+ years.

As to the ratings in general, they are a guide not gospel. Standard and Poors, the worlds top rating agency, rated both General Motors and Enron A-, A and both went bankrupt. Ratings by SBR, SnP, Moodys or whoever are done subjectively by humans and will never be perfect. If you are adverse to risk diversify with the A+ books.

[daneblazer]

TT get lost...dumb people have a lot of money in obscure books like BI

YOUR A FUKKIN IDIOT IF YOU DO..I have said it for 10 years and will say it for the next 10

Business as usual young boy

un fukkin real. What like 80% of BI customer base was referred through SBR? Real obscure there. Basically just called SBR Posters Fukkin Idiots. Want to slap their faces too?

And it's "you're"

[bigboydan]

Why would a book be sold and then go belly up.... Makes no sense IMO

[tto827]

Why would a book be sold and then go belly up.... Makes no sense IMO

According to meatman, his buddy "dalton" sold another book and they then ran off with players funds.

If it is true, everyone should remember never to play at one of "Dalton's" books, because he's gonna run it decent for a few years, then sell out to the highest bidder knowing full well his players are about to get fleeced.

Meatman and anyone he runs with is scum no matter how this turns out.

Guy is a fat fukkin idiot who lives off his dad's name and money.

[tennisnut]

guess that is what they get for bringing jon kreta back into the sportsbook scene 6 months ago