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  • laclippers504
    SBR MVP
    • 08-21-06
    • 4553

    #1
    I dont understand.....
    How professional handicap services can go 2-9 or something like that on any given day. You're paid to handicap how do you go 2-9? And have multiple days of the sort.....really?

    I'm not a professional capper but I find it easy to go 50% sports betting if you do you're research.....its not rocket science. I even consider myself a fairly decent capper. But it takes time.

    90% of the time I make my own pics but I have subscribed to one handicap service in the course of my gambling life and because of lack of time I've had to cap I started to use his plays recently and honestly......it just boggles my mind how somebody who is getting paid could be so bad. I honestly would be embarrassed to call myself a professional and send out a result like that.

    Is this common? Am I being unfair or unrealistic?
  • broadway6
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-14-09
    • 13337

    #2
    i paid touts when i first started. i learned very quickly that i rather lose with my own plays than pay for losers
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    • vyomguy
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 12-08-09
      • 5794

      #3
      never pay for tout

      they are scumbags with fake records

      their only goal is to steal money from suckers like you
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      • uvarunthetable
        SBR Sharp
        • 02-15-12
        • 416

        #4
        even the best handicapper in the world (and i don't think these services are by a long shot) is going to have days like that....just variance man
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        • Sam Odom
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 10-30-05
          • 58063

          #5
          Touts are no better than flipping a coin... Variance = 2-9
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          • SportsMushroom
            SBR MVP
            • 09-28-10
            • 4177

            #6
            bottom line is if they were that good at capping games they wouldnt need to sell their picks


            its basically just marketing

            and what they do is they give some one side of the game and some others the other side, so the people who win are gonna be so ecstatic that they will pay for more

            plus you'll be surprised how many idiots lose and still keep going back for mor e
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            • Sam Odom
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 10-30-05
              • 58063

              #7
              Originally posted by SportsMushroom

              and what they do is they give some one side of the game and some others the other side, so the people who win are gonna be so ecstatic that they will pay for more

              Before the internet... That ^ was the old 'East of the Mississippi -6 1/2 ; West of the Mississippi +6 1/2'
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              • Vinnie Paz
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 03-27-12
                • 12177

                #8
                Not all services are terrible. Some do win. Maybe you just stumbled across a really bad one. Why and how are you betting 11 games today?
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                • MiddleMan
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 05-26-13
                  • 673

                  #9
                  Originally posted by SportsMushroom
                  bottom line is if they were that good at capping games they wouldnt need to sell their picks


                  its basically just marketing

                  and what they do is they give some one side of the game and some others the other side, so the people who win are gonna be so ecstatic that they will pay for more

                  plus you'll be surprised how many idiots lose and still keep going back for mor e
                  I'm not sure I agree entirely, although most of what you say is accurate.

                  When you say if they are that good they wouldn't need to sell their picks, what happens when bookmaker after bookmaker constantly terminate your betting account for being too successful? The next thing you turn to is selling your plays. This is mainly targeted to those professionals whose national legislation prohibits them from betting online.

                  Also, some people would rather share their success with others, because it's more than money that makes them feel good. They're also after a name for themselves to give themselves pride.
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                  • Dr.Gonzo
                    SBR MVP
                    • 12-05-09
                    • 4660

                    #10
                    Billy Walters could go 2-9, it's called variance.

                    The problem with professional touts is most only hit 50%, you might as well flip a coin.
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                    • SportsMushroom
                      SBR MVP
                      • 09-28-10
                      • 4177

                      #11
                      Originally posted by MiddleMan
                      I'm not sure I agree entirely, although most of what you say is accurate.

                      When you say if they are that good they wouldn't need to sell their picks, what happens when bookmaker after bookmaker constantly terminate your betting account for being too successful? The next thing you turn to is selling your plays. This is mainly targeted to those professionals whose national legislation prohibits them from betting online.

                      Also, some people would rather share their success with others, because it's more than money that makes them feel good. They're also after a name for themselves to give themselves pride.

                      there are numerous books and exchanges aimed at professional cappers, you could easily lay down millions on every bet, and obviously make millions

                      and if you have a winning system, you dont expose your picks to the whole world, soon enough books catch on and your profitable angle is gone

                      and one last thing, someone that is that good of a person and wants to share his success with others wont do it by charging them two and a half fortunes for one lousy pick that has a 50% chance of loosing, thats called taking advantage of naive and/or desperate people
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                      • Sam Odom
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 10-30-05
                        • 58063

                        #12
                        Originally posted by SportsMushroom

                        there are numerous books and exchanges aimed at professional cappers, you could easily lay down millions on every bet, and obviously make millions

                        Sammy thinks he would move to UK if he was really and truly a Professional Sports Bettor
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                        • SportsMushroom
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-28-10
                          • 4177

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Sam Odom
                          Sammy thinks he would move to UK if he was really and truly a Professional Sports Bettor

                          sammy should stop being a pussy and just do it


                          switch all $$$ for some pounds and hop on a double decker bus
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                          • InTheDrink
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 11-23-09
                            • 23983

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sam Odom
                            Before the internet... That ^ was the old 'East of the Mississippi -6 1/2 ; West of the Mississippi +6 1/2'
                            The new trick is for sites to have a big stable of cappers and they can highlight the gueys who hit their last four or are 8 for their last 10 and bury the gueys who have lost six in a row. If you have 30 personalities then you're bound to have a few who have been hitting.

                            Some people are desperate to give their money away
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                            • jjgold
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 07-20-05
                              • 388179

                              #15
                              Simple to go 2-8 or something like that in any sport

                              All it cones down to is a pure guess as far as point spread
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                              • Sam Odom
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 10-30-05
                                • 58063

                                #16
                                Originally posted by jjgold

                                Simple to go 2-8 or something like that in any sport

                                All it cones down to is a pure guess as far as point spread

                                "Lets face it these games are guesses Take the points and you will not get hurt" JJGold - March 2005
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                                • InTheDrink
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-23-09
                                  • 23983

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  Simple to go 2-8 or something like that in any sport

                                  All it cones down to is a pure guess as far as point spread
                                  Just as hard to go 2-8 as it is 8-2
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                                  • seaborneq
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 09-08-06
                                    • 22556

                                    #18
                                    No one in the top 50 finishers of BTP hit 65% of their picks, why do some think that someone else can do it? Minimum 60 picks, which is a pretty good sample size, yet most touts will tell you they hit 70%, I call bs. If I were hitting 70% I would not share my knowledge/luck with anyone.
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                                    • Sam Odom
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 10-30-05
                                      • 58063

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by SportsMushroom

                                      sammy should stop being a pussy and just do it

                                      Sammy is too old... (not joking) Don't have gumption any longer

                                      All Sammy does now is piddle at it, gambling that is

                                      Hit the casino 4x a month and bet chump change on sports...
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                                      • InTheDrink
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 11-23-09
                                        • 23983

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by seaborneq
                                        No one in the top 50 finishers of BTP hit 65% of their picks, why do some think that someone else can do it? Minimum 60 picks, which is a pretty good sample size, yet most touts will tell you they hit 70%, I call bs. If I were hitting 70% I would share my knowledge/luck with anyone.
                                        Beginning gamblers or those on the outside think that gambling is a lot easier than it really is

                                        If you sell picks for $50 a week and you can round up 100 people to pay you will make a tidy $250k a year which is conservative IMO.

                                        Millions of suckers out there.
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                                        • daneblazer
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 09-14-08
                                          • 27861

                                          #21
                                          About 5-6 years ago I went 16-1 one weekend...the next weekend I went 0-14

                                          you want to tail someone you can find a poster in the sub forum better than a tout...and they're free
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                                          • b1slickguy
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 11-24-11
                                            • 11959

                                            #22
                                            A few years back Real Sports on HBO had a segment with a capping contest pitting Stu Feiner vs a little girl and a dog and he came in 3rd.

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                                            • laclippers504
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-21-06
                                              • 4553

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                              A few years back Real Sports on HBO had a segment with a capping contest pitting Stu Feiner vs a little girl and a dog and he came in 3rd.

                                              Rofl.

                                              Idk.....like I said....I don't overthink sports betting but I do believethat it takes a little research. Its just not that hard to consistently be at 55 or 60%. And when you got a guy claiming to be the best dropping units 4 or 5 days out of the week for over a month, using examples of what he did in the past as a means to justify his horrid plays I find that to be a joke. Lesson learned though.
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                                              • tony_come
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 03-31-10
                                                • 21695

                                                #24
                                                Just another problem

                                                Life goes on
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