No. 1 Arizona @ Michigan: CBB Saturday Morning.

[You mad bro]

3 ball=3point shooting

Connecticut	Amer	46.5	1	50.5	125	72.2	97	4.3	4	8.6	158	52.9	127	34.6	116
Indiana St.	MVC	45.6	2	50.2	131	79.7	5	11.3	262	8.8	185	53.8	111	31.8	181
Colgate	Pat	45.6	3	55.6	21	71.3	124	6.3	31	8.8	181	61.8	17	47.8	4
Gonzaga	WCC	45.2	4	55.5	23	72.9	77	6.3	32	7.1	42	52.2	141	35.1	106
Creighton	BE	44.2	5	53.3	53	71.0	135	11.3	264	6.9	29	65.1	5	44.5	15
Rider	MAAC	44.0	6	47.2	223	75.5	32	7.5	73	6.2	14	44.4	291	31.5	193
Virginia Tech	ACC	43.9	7	46.4	247	71.2	126	10.5	219	8.3	130	50.0	188	36.2	87
UC Santa Barbara	BW	43.9	8	56.9	12	69.1	183	5.9	21	7.9	96	64.5	6	35.8	91
Oregon	P12	43.4	9	57.5	5	75.3	37	7.0	55	7.2	44	56.0	77	32.4	169
Bucknell	Pat	43.4	10	48.5	181	79.0	6	11.5	269	7.0	36	50.7	175	29.6	241
West Virginia	B12	42.7	11	49.5	153	67.4	233	7.5	68	5.9	9	51.4	160	35.2	103
George Washington	A10	42.6	12	48.5	182	70.7	147	8.9	146	8.6	166	57.0	63	25.7	307
Duke	ACC	42.1	13	57.1	7	73.7	58	9.1	153	7.7	79	55.1	91	35.1	105
Saint Mary's	WCC	42.1	14	51.1	100	75.4	35	8.7	132	9.6	242	62.2	14	32.3	170
Idaho St.	BSky	41.8	15	42.6	320	69.7	169	17.0	345	9.5	234	44.9	282	23.8	332
BYU	WCC	41.7	16	49.9	137	68.7	200	9.3	165	8.0	101	57.7	52	20.3	349
Wyoming	MWC	41.4	17	52.4	67	71.1	132	9.6	176	5.7	5	60.6	25	36.7	77
San Diego St.	MWC	41.3	18	43.0	312	71.6	113	9.5	171	7.2	43	39.4	332	24.5	323
SMU	Amer	41.3	19	53.8	44	69.3	175	6.4	33	11.1	311	60.7	24	23.6	335
Cal St. Bakersfield	WAC	41.1	20	46.3	250	64.6	296	8.7	134	12.0	339	51.0	167	33.8	136

my bad billy

good shit lol

[billysink]

Don't be fooled, this team is very focused right now. But, Mich is very difficult place to play. Agree with others posting here, should be a close game which means may come down to who can make their FT's. Mich almost 75% vs Az 66% y-t-d. Aaron Gordon is a train wreck on the foul line right now. Az bigs (Zues and Ashley) have tendency to get into foul trouble. If it does come down to calls and who can convert their foul shots, advantage Michigan. Personally, I'm just looking forward to watching this game!

Michigan flat out does not send it's opponents to the line at all. Nor do they get fouled. They are a perimeter team.

Chalky hit it right on the only way Arizona loses is if they turn it over.

[ChalkyDog]

Arizona's Starting Lineup:

C - Zeuski, 7'0"
PF - Ashley 6'9"
SF - Gordon 6'8
SG - N. Johnson 6'3"
PG - TJ McConnell 6'1"

Bench:

G - Gabe York 6'3"
F/G - Rondae Hollis-Jerfferson 6'7"

Michigan Starting lineup:

C - McGary 6'10"
F - GRIII 6'6"
G - Stauskas 6'6"
G - LeVert 6'6"
G - Walton Jr. 6'1"

Bench

G/F - Irvin 6'6"
G - Albrect 5'11"


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Michigan has been preparing for Arizona's size by shooting over brooms, and have spent a lot more time than usual on rebounding fundamentals.

[billysink]

Bro I write like I talk sometimes. I read my shit the next day and I got no fukkin clue what I said

[You mad bro]

Bro I write like I talk sometimes. I read my shit the next day and I got no fukkin clue what I said

lmao its all good pal

thanks for clearing it up

was going to say that is something jjgold would say about sdsu being a top 3 team

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Bro I write like I talk sometimes. I read my shit the next day and I got no fukkin clue what I said

hey billy, not sure what slang you use but i have no clue what you say half of the time.

you're probably saying something meaningful but it's all good pal.

[billysink]

lmao its all good pal

thanks for clearing it up

was going to say that is something jjgold would say about sdsu being a top 3 team

Damn.

Glad I cleared that up.

[Ghenghis Kahn]

michigan struggles against big physical teams.

arizona struggled vs unlv.

arizona's big and physical, michigan style of basketball is similar to unlv.

who the fukk knows, maybe they both struggle and under is the right play.

[You mad bro]

Damn.

Glad I cleared that up.

yeah man dont wanna be in the same "area" with that clown

[You mad bro]

michigan struggles against big physical teams.

arizona struggled vs unlv.

arizona's big and physical, michigan style of basketball is similar to unlv.

who the fukk knows, maybe they both struggle and under is the right play.

or maybe the game is postponed and the game will be played in 3 weeks and we can worry about it then

[billysink]

hey billy, not sure what slang you use but i have no clue what you say half of the time.

you're probably saying something meaningful but it's all good pal.

Khaner my 4 official languages are English, 70's malt liquor neighborhood, too many fukkin Brandies or Beer and Bud.

Most of the fukkin time it ain't worth payin any mind anyway.

I meant to say somethin maybe.

fukkin old here whadda ya want for cheap.

[billysink]

michigan struggles against big physical teams.

arizona struggled vs unlv.

arizona's big and physical, michigan style of basketball is similar to unlv.

who the fukk knows, maybe they both struggle and under is the right play.

good point.

Ima look closer at that UNLV game.

[Inkwell77]

I was wrong on the Arizona vs Duke game and am wrong here again. Michigan home court looks to be worth like 6 or 7 points here, because Arizona on a neutral would be like -5.

Michigan is a middle of the road tourney team and Arizona is a contender. Arizona will lose a game or two, no doubt, but betting Michigan here doesn't make sense imo.

Arizona went into SDSU and won and that homecourt is just as strong as Michigan. Tarczewski impacts Mcgary and I believe every other matchup favors zona.

Stauskas has been weak in big games, especially against athletic teams, and he seems to be their leader this year.

[HOT WINGS]

I usually think I have good grasp on Michigan games, but no clue here. Glen Robinson Jr ever going to show up in a game? Everyone says he's a future NBA player, but just don't see it in him or McGary. This team seems so lost without Burke and Hardaway this year. No "closer" on the team at all at this point. Stauskas has nice shot(as a catch and shooter) but he is such a liability on D against good teams it is pretty much a wash .

[jjgold]

Arizona looks too easy here
What the hell am I my missing
Just put another 25 on Arizona

[TheMoneyShot]

All I'm saying is... Arizona looks like they would kick your a$$ while sleeping. Michigan is 20X better at home than on the road. The team isn't the same without the guards they use to have. Arizona strong in almost any fashion... especially outside. The only way they lose... they fear the atmosphere at Michigan. Spread clearly indicates a trap. Michigan should win (based on spread only)... but I don't see how?

[Madison]

Don't be fooled, this team is very focused right now. But, Mich is very difficult place to play. Agree with others posting here, should be a close game which means may come down to who can make their FT's. Mich almost 75% vs Az 66% y-t-d. Aaron Gordon is a train wreck on the foul line right now. Az bigs (Zues and Ashley) have tendency to get into foul trouble. If it does come down to calls and who can convert their foul shots, advantage Michigan. Personally, I'm just looking forward to watching this game!

Thanks for your insight! Everything I cap is by eyesight which obviously makes things tough. Just seems like they were cruising in a couple efforts.

[thebestthereis]

If AP rankings were predictive, it would be #1 Arizona vs. #17 or so Michigan.

I understand the rankings and the meaningless number they can be at times. this scenario i have never seen as the ap rankings sit right now. no clue about the exact details, but not sure if anyone can find the #1 ranked team as an underdog vs an unranked team at -2 like this. home court is huge in college as some teams are almost unbeatable at home regardless of opponent but this just looks very weird. not gonna touch this but it is the definition of trap if there ever was one.

[billysink]

I think perhaps the books have overvalued homecourt here. We have nothing to go by at all this year and this is clearly not last years team. Michigan has not yet played a home game worth looking at.

History does not always quantify from year to year.

[ChalkyDog]

I think perhaps the books have overvalued homecourt here. We have nothing to go by at all this year and this is clearly not last years team. Michigan has not yet played a home game worth looking at.

History does not always quantify from year to year.

This right here is the best and most plausible explanation for the line that I have seen.

If you think Michigan home court is worth that many points, fine. If not - a play on Arizona would follow.

As far as the under, it should be low scoringish, IMO. Especially compared to what these teams average. I expect it to be in the 135ish range though. I don't see a posted total yet.

[Vegas39]

AZ +2 waiting on totals as chalky said

[TeeRose]

Arizona all the way, if it was last year, I would of said Michigan.

[No coincidences]

Early start time may have something to do with it, along with Michigan actually being a Top-15 caliber team despite the fact that they are currently unranked.

That, or KenPom has Michigan by 1 and Vegas just copied his number like they typically do.

[CheeseHead]

Early start time may have something to do with it, along with Michigan actually being a Top-15 caliber team despite the fact that they are currently unranked.

That, or KenPom has Michigan by 1 and Vegas just copied his number like they typically do.

Agree with what No coin said on this.... And actually it looks like normal line movement right now... opened at Michigan -2, down to -1.5, now down to -1 with about 60% of bets on Arizona. Am I seeing that correctly? So it's not as if Vegas opened the line this way and Arizona all of a sudden got 90% of the bets. Michigan has played pretty poorly so far though and Arizona seems legit. This is a game I originally wanted to get on Michigan as well but wow, can I anymore? I'm over-thinking this game at this point probably.

[No coincidences]

Agree with what No coin said on this.... And actually it looks like normal line movement right now... opened at Michigan -2, down to -1.5, now down to -1 with about 60% of bets on Arizona. Am I seeing that correctly? So it's not as if Vegas opened the line this way and Arizona all of a sudden got 90% of the bets. Michigan has played pretty poorly so far though and Arizona seems legit. This is a game I originally wanted to get on Michigan as well but wow, can I anymore? I'm over-thinking this game at this point probably.

You either bet Michigan or nothing here. Long term, that's a winning strategy. Michigan is still a legitimate team. Just off to a slow start and adjusting to life without Burke. McGary, Stauskas, LeVert, Robinson, etc. These kids are all solid players.

[CheeseHead]

You either bet Michigan or nothing here. Long term, that's a winning strategy. Michigan is still a legitimate team. Just off to a slow start and adjusting to life without Burke. McGary, Stauskas, LeVert, Robinson, etc. These kids are all solid players.

I agree...if Michigan hadn't been struggling so far they are probably favored by around 4 or so here. I'll either be on Michigan or laying off completely. Probably can get Michigan at PK tomorrow...if you want Arizona, now is still probably a good time I'd think. You going to have any action on this game?

[Cuse0323]

You either bet Michigan or nothing here. Long term, that's a winning strategy. Michigan is still a legitimate team. Just off to a slow start and adjusting to life without Burke. McGary, Stauskas, LeVert, Robinson, etc. These kids are all solid players.

Or you take who is going to win the game. Which will be Zona.

[CheeseHead]

Or you take who is going to win the game. Which will be Zona.

Arizona's legit. The better team does not always win. There's a reason it is hard to be profitable betting on sports. Lots of other factors... It's not like Michigan all of sudden has bad players or hurt....the line would be different.

[Cuse0323]

Arizona's legit. The better team does not always win. There's a reason it is hard to be profitable betting on sports. Lots of other factors... It's not like Michigan all of sudden has bad players or hurt....the line would be different.

That's great and all but you're guessing that Michigan will play to the top of their ability and Zona will not. Too much reading into this game when things are laid right out for you. Michigan is struggling to figure out themselves this year and Zona has their identity. I'll take my chances with the team that has it figured out over the team you hope gets it figured out. GL

[CheeseHead]

That's great and all but you're guessing that Michigan will play to the top of their ability and Zona will not. Too much reading into this game when things are laid right out for you. Michigan is struggling to figure out themselves this year and Zona has their identity. I'll take my chances with the team that has it figured out over the team you hope gets it figured out. GL

Actually I think if both of them play to the best of their ability, with other factors like having home court - Michigan will still win. What worries me is how poorly Michigan is playing and Arizona probably has the better shot of actually showing up tomorrow.

[TheMoneyShot]

Chalky - The more I analyze this game... if Michigan was at Arizona... the line should be Arizona -7 or -7.5. Possibly even more. Michigan is now -2 at some Vegas books now. There is really something up with this game... and a national broadcast on CBS also? You got me sold. I'm taking Michigan tomorrow. Thanks man

[Darkside Magick]

Coin toss but going with:

3* - [521] Arizona +1 -110 vs Michigan

GL

[Jayvegas420]

Beat SD St. & UNLV & "DUKE".......
then lose to a Trey Burkeless & Hardaway Jr.less Michigan team?
I just can't see it.

If these two teams were meeting today & it was the Sweet 16 instead of December, I can't see an openning line like this.
All things considered the same as today, the Cats would be -5.5 maybe 6.5 at a neutral site.

[TheMoneyShot]

I don't know if these stats are accurate or not? But if they aren't... my bad. But they are kind of interesting. According to this website...

Michigan is averaging 89 points scoring at Home this year. Which is Ranked T-26th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.
Michigan is allowing 49.8 points a game at Home this year. Which is Ranked 4th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.

Arizona is averaging 69 points scoring on the Road this year. Which is Ranked T-178th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.
Arizona is allowing 62.7 points a game on the Road this year. Which is Ranked 13th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.

Just food for thought.

[CheeseHead]

I don't know if these stats are accurate or not? But if they aren't... my bad. But they are kind of interesting. According to this website...

Michigan is averaging 89 points scoring at Home this year. Which is Ranked T-26th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.
Michigan is allowing 49.8 points a game at Home this year. Which is Ranked 4th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.

Arizona is averaging 69 points scoring on the Road this year. Which is Ranked T-178th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.
Arizona is allowing 62.7 points a game on the Road this year. Which is Ranked 13th in the NCAA out of 351 teams.

Just food for thought.

Arizona's only played one true road game. Those stats appear to include their 2 neutral court games as well. I'm hoping no one is making a bet based on this..