The SEC effect: The Ohio State Buckeyes

[ChalkyDog]

SEC has set terrible precedence by showing that titles can be stacked by scheduling awful out of conference games. As a result, other schools followed, and the big schools became reliant on their conference schedule being perceived to make up the difference in "toughness of schedule."

In comes the 2013 Ohio State Buckeye's. Their only fault is a terrible conference. It's seriously bad football. Their best win is at home vs. Wisconsin. Let that resonate.

Are they worthy of a national title with that schedule? Hell no. No reasonable person would look at their schedule and say it's that much better than mid-majors that have been shut out of all national title talks for years, yet here they are, the week of the Conference Championship games with a chance to punch the proverbial ticket to a national title matchup vs. FSU.

Well done, SEC. You arrogant fuckers.

[pavyracer]

Ohio St would lose to Alabama, Auburn, LSU, South Carolina and Missouri if they were in the SEC.

They almost lost to Northwestern and Michigan two teams that are not in the Top 25.

SEC had 7 teams in the Top 15. and #3, #4 and #5 are in the SEC.

[InTheDrink]

Ohio St would lose to Alabama, Auburn, LSU, South Carolina and Missouri if they were in the SEC.

They almost lost to Northwestern and Michigan two teams that are not in the Top 25.

SEC had 7 teams in the Top 15. and #3, #4 and #5 are in the SEC.

ill let someone else talk about how the sec teams are ranked that high because they only play each other and no one else as someone always does

then ill pound the sec in bowl season and once again win big

[broadway6]

let OSU play and get smoked...

[Gonz312]

The SEC is the best coference without question, but the whole stigma of them being far superior is ridiculous. When A&M and Mizzou left the big 12, everybody thought they were gonna be the bottom feeders of the big bad SEC...but happens? A&M is competing from year 1 and even in year 2 with a horrible defense. Mizzou playing for the title in year 2.

You can say that OSU will lose to all these teams, but until they actually play one and do it...it's all SEC ego in my opinion. 2 straight years without a loss definitely warrants a chance to prove yourself against solid competition that joe public won't look at as being a weak big 10 team. It all becomes moot when Mizzou beats Auburn anyway. Book it.

[pavyracer]

The SEC is the best coference without question, but the whole stigma of them being far superior is ridiculous. When A&M and Mizzou left the big 12, everybody thought they were gonna be the bottom feeders of the big bad SEC...but happens? A&M is competing from year 1 and even in year 2 with a horrible defense. Mizzou playing for the title in year 2.

You can say that OSU will lose to all these teams, but until they actually play one and do it...it's all SEC ego in my opinion. 2 straight years without a loss definitely warrants a chance to prove yourself against solid competition that joe public won't look at as being a weak big 10 team. It all becomes moot when Mizzou beats Auburn anyway. Book it.

Ohio St lost to both Florida and LSU in BCS championship games. And wasn't a close game. They lost by 4 TD's.

[Wilfred]

Ohio St lost to both Florida and LSU in BCS championship games.

Yep and they must have the same coaches and players, right? They also beat Miami in the National championship and beat Oregon and a precious SEC team in Arkansas a few years ago in BCS games. Not sure how any of those are relevant to now.

[pavyracer]

Yep and they must have the same coaches and players, right? They also beat Miami in the National championship and beat Oregon and a precious SEC team in Arkansas a few years ago in BCS games. Not sure how any of those are relevant to now.

They are relevant because it shows you that Ohio St has never beat an SEC team in a BCS championship game. Never!

[Wilfred]

They are relevant because it shows you that Ohio St has never beat an SEC team in a BCS championship game. Never!

I'd think the head coach would be more relevant than players that aren't on the teams anymore. Give Urban a month to prepare and watch what happens. Do they beat FSU? Probably not, but It won't be a blowout.

As for the SEC, I don't think after a month to prepare Ohio State could beat Alabama, but Auburn and Missouri absolutely.

[WinTheDay24]

ill let someone else talk about how the sec teams are ranked that high because they only play each other and no one else as someone always does

then ill pound the sec in bowl season and once again win big

since the start of the BCS era in 1998 the SEC conference has an overall losing record against the Pac-12 (11-12) and Big East (19-23) in bowl games

[pavyracer]

What's Ohio St's biggest road win of the year? California? They went 0-9 in their conference.

[pavyracer]

since the start of the BCS era in 1998 the SEC conference has an overall losing record against the Pac-12 (11-12) and Big East (19-23) in bowl games

But they have won the last 6 BCS championships.

[WinTheDay24]

But they have won the last 6 BCS championships.

7 but whose counting..

[Big Bear]

All the Buckeyes do is win.

yo fukk all that politics and shit. All you can do is
play who you got on the schedule.

ACC team vs Urban Meyers squad?

give me "The" Ohio State for the max

i aint even joking i'm taking out a loan for this game.

Buckeyes +11 for me

[InTheDrink]

since the start of the BCS era in 1998 the SEC conference has an overall losing record against the Pac-12 (11-12) and Big East (19-23) in bowl games

lets take a look at their overall bowl record, k?

Conference	All Bowls ’98-’12	BCS Bowls ’98-’12	All Bowls 2012	BCS Bowls 2012
Big West	2-0 (100.0%)	0-0	0-0	0-0
Big East	46-29 (61.3%)	8-7	3-2	1-0
SEC	73-50 (59.3%)	17-8	6-3	1-1
MWC	32-24 (57.1%)	3-1	1-4	0-0
Pac-10/12	41-45 (47.5%)	13-7	4-4	2-0
Big XII	57-63 (47.5%)	9-11	4-5	0-1
ACC	49-55 (47.1%)	3-13	4-2	1-0
WAC	23-28 (45.0%)	2-1	2-0	0-0
C-USA	33-41 (44.5%)	0-0	4-1	0-0
Big Ten	47-59 (44.3%)	12-14	2-5	0-1
Sun Belt	10-13 (43.4%)	0-0	2-2	0-0
MAC	21-28 (42.8%)	0-1	2-5	0-1

Observations:
* The SEC has 16 more bowl wins than any other conference since the 1998 season.
* The SEC has more bowl bids over that span than any other conference.
* Despite its teams often playing opponents that finished higher in their own conference standings, the SEC has the third-best winning percentage among conferences. Only the Big West — defunct for more than a decade — and the Big East have better overall winning percentages since 1998.
* Look at the overall bowl records for the Big Ten and the MAC and you have to wonder just how much talent remains in the American Midwest as people migrate to the South and to the West. No wonder Midwestern teams and leagues are searching for ways to reach the prospects in the Sun Belt region.
* Of the five major conferences remaining today — ACC, Big Ten, Big XII, Pac-12, and SEC — only the SEC has a winning bowl mark over the past 15 seasons.

[WinTheDay24]

All the Buckeyes do is win.

yo fukk all that politics and shit. All you can do is
play who you got on the schedule.

ACC team vs Urban Meyers squad?

give me "The" Ohio State for the max

i aint even joking i'm taking out a loan for this game.

Buckeyes +11 for me

Jimbo is 1-0 vs Urban

[buckeyesooner]

Florida State's schedule is ranked lower than the Buckeyes, why aren't we railing on them?

[bubblebuttluv]

I'd think the head coach would be more relevant than players that aren't on the teams anymore. Give Urban a month to prepare and watch what happens. Do they beat FSU? Probably not, but It won't be a blowout.

As for the SEC, I don't think after a month to prepare Ohio State could beat Alabama, but Auburn and Missouri absolutely.

No the title game will be a blowout.

OSU will get crushed.

FSU not only has an awesome offense, they have a sick defense.

[buckeyesooner]

No the title game will be a blowout.

OSU will get crushed.

FSU not only has an awesome offense, they have a sick defense.

Sounds like the cry from 2000...

[Louisvillekid1]

Won't matter after Sparty wins

[Vegas39]

Won't matter after Sparty wins

[PaperTrail07]

Without that Bullshit Tattoo Ordeal...Ohio State would have beat ND for 1 Title and would be playing for one again without the Drama involved....

[PaperTrail07]

B/C they beat Miami and Clemson

Florida State's schedule is ranked lower than the Buckeyes, why aren't we railing on them?

[buckeyesooner]

In my best Iverson voice...Clemson, you talking bout Clemson...? Miami also is nothing to write home about.
Clemson looked strong against NC St and Maryland, oh wait...

[Grits n' Gravy]

The thing everyone neglects to mention is Meyer knows how to coach against sec talent.

[You mad bro]

acc>sec

[BigdaddyQH]

Ohio St would lose to Alabama, Auburn, LSU, South Carolina and Missouri if they were in the SEC.

They almost lost to Northwestern and Michigan two teams that are not in the Top 25.

SEC had 7 teams in the Top 15. and #3, #4 and #5 are in the SEC.

Why do you go out of your way to prove how dumb you really are? LSU is squat this season. South Carolina, Missouri, and Auburn would all lose to Ohio State. Onlyh Alabama would have enough athletes to defeat Ohio State.

[dick johnson]

Ohio St would lose to Alabama, Auburn, LSU, South Carolina and Missouri if they were in the SEC.

They almost lost to Northwestern and Michigan two teams that are not in the Top 25.

SEC had 7 teams in the Top 15. and #3, #4 and #5 are in the SEC.

Vegas disagrees with you (besides Bama) you fuckin' retard.

[Big Bear]

acc>sec

lol The big bad ACC where Duke makes the championship game and there is a 29 point spread for a fukkin
conference championship game...

[Poison-Nut]

Ohio St lost to both Florida and LSU in BCS championship games. And wasn't a close game. They lost by 4 TD's.

That was 6 and 8 years ago. Bama lost to Utah in the bowl game - do we bring that up. NO because that was a different year and a different period in time. Don't bring this sh&t up that happened ages ago.

I agree with Gonz, don't say OSU can't win in the SeCk14, since we don't play in that conference. Mizzo couldn't win either - right ???????

You people are feed this BS from ESecPN and eat it up. When you own the conference how are you not supposed to promote it, and talk negative BS on the B1G. Don't get me wrong- the SeCk14 is a better conference than the B1G, I am not debating that. But the SeCk14 vs B1G record in the BCS era is something like 18-16. That's almost .500 people.