(6) Duke vs. (5) Arizona @ MSG - Set the Line

[ChalkyDog]

Going to be a good game. Could happen next Friday.

Arizona has to get by Drexel
Duke has to get by Alabama

Duke has looked shaky. Arizona has looked dominant. Drexel has the higher upset potential and I think Duke gets by Bama without too much issue. That isn't the point though.

These two top 5 programs have a high likelihood for matching up next Friday. What's the line?

I've been wrestling with this one for a while, and believe this should open up as a PK. 1 or 2 points either way to steer money. So, realistically all you have to do is pick the winner.

Thoughts?

[bubblebuttluv]

Probably a pk or giving <st1:State w:st="on"><ST1Arizona</ST1</st1:State> a few points.

Chalky you good pples and I like you so no shit talking meant by this post but dudes is high on PAC-12 ball and I think it is a little funny.

I watch Pac-12 stuff because I like USC programs to an extent (I rep Stanford in football but Marqise Lee is my ninja), and I think <st1:State w:st="on"><ST1Oregon</ST1</st1:State> has a cool looking court. John Wooden is dead, so I think PAC 12 basketball is just blah. Now I have seen Gordon play and I think he is very good and <st1:State w:st="on"><ST1Arizona</ST1</st1:State> should absolutely win the PAC-12 and I will be shocked if they don’t.<O</O
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But here are some things I don’t believe about Arizona: I don’t believe they will be in the Final Four (depending on brackets, I think the 4 best teams in no particular order come that time of the year will be Louisville, Kentucky, Michigan State, and Duke), and I don’t believe Gordon is as good as Parker. I believe Duke is the better all around team (even if they don’t really play defense right now), and mainly I don’t believe Duke will lose a second big time ranked game this early, like they lost to Kansas. If Duke could have hit free throws that night and maybe contained that big balding guy on K<st1:State w:st="on"><ST1nsas</ST1</st1:State> (but mainly it was the awful FT %) they would have won that game.<O</O
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Again, no shit talking because you great pples. I think you rep<st1:State w:st="on"><ST1 Arizona an</ST1</st1:State>d I rep Duke as one of my teams I like, and it will be a Hell of a game either way. But, it is Duke moneyline for me.<O</O

[greenhippo]

Bama looked awful good tonight and Duke been struggling.

[bubblebuttluv]

My computer was acting weird so when I saw my post it said "lace" and stuff like that so I tried to fix it.

[Big Bear]

this coming friday or are we talking black friday the 29th?

[Big Bear]

i would think Arizona wins.

Duke doesnt shoot as good away from home

[ChalkyDog]

Sorry, Friday the 29th.

If I were to rank teams right now it would be Louisville and Arizona as 1a and 1b.

Then everyone else.

Everyone aside from those two teams have looked suspect.

[BennyBigNuts]

Ariz -2

[ChalkyDog]

Ariz -2

I like it. Exactly where I am at.

Wondering if books will tempt Duke money in New York.

Duke's second home is MSG.

[Big Bear]

i'd take arizona at -2 they look pretty good this year

[t-wizzle]

Arizona is better.

[k13]

Arizona 16-1 to win it all
+200 to win Pac10

Kansas +150 to win Big12
Kentucky +125 to win SEc

Plus money on all these teams that are supposedly so much better than the competition...

[ChalkyDog]

Arizona 16-1 to win it all
+200 to win Pac10

Kansas +150 to win Big12
Kentucky +125 to win SEc

Plus money on all these teams that are supposedly so much better than the competition...

Kansas at +150 seems crazy. How long has that been free money? Obviously OK St. being the one everyone is counting on to knock Kansas off.

I have no idea who is going to challenge Kentucky. Florida looks awful.

It's hard to win the PAC, dumb shit happens year in and year out. Oregon is a good team, and a lot better than they are playing now.

[k13]

Duke +175
Louisville +125
MSU +150


Florida is only +187 lol....

This is at a Euro book so who knows what the penetrate they know.

[Brock Landers]

Arizona better FT shooting team, Duke is going to lose a lot of games on the road due to lack of FT shooting

[ChalkyDog]

Arizona better FT shooting team, Duke is going to lose a lot of games on the road due to lack of FT shooting

That is legitimately Arizona's only concern right now. Only glaring weakness is their FT shooting. Arizona, for the most part, have shown where they are at with FT shooting with career percentages. Shit just isn't going in the hoop. Best FT shooter number wise is atrocious form the line so far this season.

Duke will get calls, they always do. Have to game plan for it. If Arizona continues to shoot from the line as bad as they have this year, its going to be a hard game to win.

[BigDeem5]

Fade Duke in big games.

Parker is the real deal. Cook will be sporadic all year and their guard play is atrocious.

They're a one man wrecking crew.

[Vegas39]

Kansas at +150 seems crazy. How long has that been free money? Obviously OK St. being the one everyone is counting on to knock Kansas off.

I have no idea who is going to challenge Kentucky. Florida looks awful.

It's hard to win the PAC, dumb shit happens year in and year out. Oregon is a good team, and a lot better than they are playing now.

Oregon will be a bit better once Artis and Carter back from their 9 game suspensions

[ChalkyDog]

Oregon will be a bit better once Artis and Carter back from their 9 game suspensions

Exactly. It's impossible to quantify how important Artis is to that team. They're legit top 15 borerline top 10 by mid-season.

[Vegas39]

Exactly. It's impossible to quantify how important Artis is to that team. They're legit top 15 borerline top 10 by mid-season.

Hope those two learned if you're gonna sell school issued shoes on eBay. Have someone else do it and not use your own eBay account

[Amb012]

Fade Duke in big games.

Parker is the real deal. Cook will be sporadic all year and their guard play is atrocious.

They're a one man wrecking crew.

Idk if you have watched but I would say Rodney hood has been just as good and made more clutch shots in 2nd half. Also shooting 72% from the field and 72% from 3 isn't bad either. Definitely not a 1 man wrecking crew

[ChalkyDog]

Idk if you have watched but I would say Rodney hood has been just as good and made more clutch shots in 2nd half. Also shooting 72% from the field and 72% from 3 isn't bad either. Definitely not a 1 man wrecking crew

Your boys going to get by Bama?

ECU not nearly as good as Bama.

Also, seems Arizona and Duke are in a dog fight for a top 20 recruit in Justise Winslow. Announcing tomorrow.

[Amb012]

Your boys going to get by Bama?

ECU not nearly as good as Bama.

Also, seems Arizona and Duke are in a dog fight for a top 20 recruit in Justise Winslow. Announcing tomorrow.

Ya they should handle bama easily. Seems like duke gets up double digits early then coach k starts rotating guys in who see very limited minutes, who usually wouldn't even play in big games. That's when ecu made their run so I look for coach k to play his 8-9 until late and it's gets out of hand. They also seem to have adapted to the new hand checking, blocking rules very well after that atrocious kansas game where they committed 29 fouls. Really like the Parker, hood, sulaimon scoring combo.

i think the line will be a pick, if not duke favored by a couple.

[Louisvillekid1]

Sorry, Friday the 29th.

If I were to rank teams right now it would be Louisville and Arizona as 1a and 1b.

Then everyone else.

Everyone aside from those two teams have looked suspect.

If only one of our bigs could make a dam FT!!!!!!

[ChalkyDog]

If only one of our bigs could make a dam FT!!!!!!

It's an epidemic this year. Strange.

Even good FT shooters have struggled.

[Vegas39]

It's an epidemic this year. Strange.

Even good FT shooters have struggled.

UNLV god awful from the line

[Ralphie1412]

I think Duke has looked pretty good for a young team. Kansas is solid and they played them tough the whole time and ECU they went up 15-20 early and just gave up. Typical young team mentality. They will crush Bama.

Arizona will be a tough game for them, but like ALWAYS with Coach K come January everyone will be talking about Dukes strength of schedule. I havent checked what holiday tourney they are in. But they always play in a tough one. So if they have Kansas, Arizona, and holiday tourney ranked teams on their schedule before December 1 thats huge.

[ChalkyDog]

I think Duke has looked pretty good for a young team. Kansas is solid and they played them tough the whole time and ECU they went up 15-20 early and just gave up. Typical young team mentality. They will crush Bama.

Arizona will be a tough game for them, but like ALWAYS with Coach K come January everyone will be talking about Dukes strength of schedule. I havent checked what holiday tourney they are in. But they always play in a tough one. So if they have Kansas, Arizona, and holiday tourney ranked teams on their schedule before December 1 thats huge.

This is Duke's major Tourney. They got a matchup with Michigan late on though. Same as Arizona.

[Amb012]

And play ucla on neutral floor. All before Christmas which I think sets them up good for conference play

[ChalkyDog]

And play ucla on neutral floor. All before Christmas which I think sets them up good for conference play

How about your boys nut up and actually play a true road game OOC.

Neutral floor bullshit.

[Big Bear]

this matchup happening tomorrow?

i looked for a line and i didnt see it yet

[The Madcap]

How about your boys nut up and actually play a true road game OOC.

Neutral floor bullshit.

Barely any of the top 10 teams do that anymore. Check out the schedules from the last few years. Nobody's going OOC. It's all neutral site games. Big 10-ACC challenge is an exception, and even some of those are "neutral" (played in the United Center/GC etc)

[ChalkyDog]

Barely any of the top 10 teams do that anymore. Check out the schedules from the last few years. Nobody's going OOC. It's all neutral site games. Big 10-ACC challenge is an exception, and even some of those are "neutral" (played in the United Center/GC etc)

Yeah, its frustrating too.

Arizona just got back from a legit road game against a tough opponent.

Sad seeing powerhouse teams schedule in such a way. OOC games used to be the highlight of most seasons.

[ChalkyDog]

Here we go.

Big games tonight to decide if this game happens.

Arizona opened at -10 v Drexel (a very good team) and has since moved to -12, meaning I probably beat the closer. There was a injury rumored last night, and it turns out Drexel is without a main front court player. They are already short on depth, and short in size. Arizona can truly abuse Drexel inside.

On the otherside, Duke is in a battle with Bama tonight. Duke has looked shaky, and Bama is pretty physical. If bama can take it inside on Duke, it might be a game.

Either way, I really hope Arizona v. Duke happens this Friday.

[Vegas39]

Hope it happens too chalky and hoping can get AZ -2 or less