Why don't Alabama players do well in the pros?

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  • daneblazer
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    • 09-14-08
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    #1
    Why don't Alabama players do well in the pros?
    Seems like they either bust or are injury prone.

    Eddie Lacy & Julio have been good but already have injury issues....

    Mark Barron has looked good.

    Trenton Richardson, Mark Ingram Tay Cody, Dee Millner? Not so much. Interesting how they have the best college talent but don't pan out often in the pros.
  • pavyracer
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    • 04-12-07
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    #2
    You are only listing offensive players. Alabama's strength is their defense. Research defensive players of Alabama in the NFL and they are the cream of the crop.
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    • RavensFan2k3
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      • 08-18-12
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      #3
      Originally posted by pavyracer
      You are only listing offensive players. Alabama's strength is their defense. Research defensive players of Alabama in the NFL and they are the cream of the crop.
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      • Popcorn Trick
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        • 10-20-12
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        #4
        Originally posted by pavyracer
        You are only listing offensive players. Alabama's strength is their defense. Research defensive players of Alabama in the NFL and they are the cream of the crop.
        I'm counting three Offensive players and three Defensive players.
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        • Popcorn Trick
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          • 10-20-12
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          #5
          Originally posted by RavensFan2k3
          Not a lot of Pro Bowlers Dude.
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          • daneblazer
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            • 09-14-08
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            #6
            Originally posted by pavyracer
            You are only listing offensive players. Alabama's strength is their defense. Research defensive players of Alabama in the NFL and they are the cream of the crop.
            Tay Cody? Millner? Kirkpatrick? Don't know if that's cream of the crop. Can't believe Roman Harper is still around. He had a pretty good career
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            • Popcorn Trick
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              • 10-20-12
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              #7
              Bama is well coached and a couple of years didn't really deserve to be in Championship game. Saban is a great coach and they won those championship games.

              Funny, USC guys weren't panning out in the pro's either during their Hay-Day.

              That being said, Bama is stacked this year and I can't imagine the same scenario going forward.

              W
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              • Louisvillekid1
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                • 10-17-07
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                #8
                Julio Jones
                Andre Smith
                Donta Hightower
                Roman Harper
                Kareem Jackson
                Demeco Ryan's

                only people I can think of

                Shaun Alexander prob the best in last 10 years off the top of my head

                Derrick Thomas best all time?
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                • Big Bear
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                  • 11-01-11
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                  #9
                  who cares ... worry about your bets fellas . nothing else matters
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                  • jjgold
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                    • 07-20-05
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                    #10
                    Hard to gauge
                    Many are hit and miss at all programs
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                    • seaborneq
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                      • 09-08-06
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                      #11
                      Julio and Andre Smith are the only consensus number 1 players coming from Alabama. They started from day 1 and lived up to the hype and were drafted top 7 respectively. All the other are either homegrown players who were coached up, or good freshman who played 3 years and left, but played in a great system and participated with other great players. That doesn't necessarily translate into being a good pro. When ever I watch SNF or MNF I am still amazed at the "small schools" that put the starters in the NFL on an ongoing basis when each player is allowed to introduce themselves. For example. Purdue, Saginaw State, E Michigan, Troy, Nicholls State, etc.
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                      • pavyracer
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                        • 04-12-07
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                        #12
                        Marcel Dareus
                        Mark Barron
                        Courtney Upshaw
                        Donta Hightower
                        Dee Milliner

                        Like I told you. Cream of the crop!
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                        • Vinnie Paz
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                          • 03-27-12
                          • 12177

                          #13
                          Dre Kirkpatrick is injured no?

                          Their o linemen are pretty good

                          Rolano McClain was a good prospect but hes a moron. I remeber Upshaw in college guy was fukkin nasty
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                          • bama11braves
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                            • 01-22-13
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                            #14
                            your talking about guys that have only been in the league 2-3 years. Mark Ingram looked pretty good last night. Trent Richardson every time i watch never gets blocked for, he gets drilled in the back field all the time. In 5 years each team is gonna have 5 bama guys on it and well see how they do then. Until then its to early. Not many guys come straight into the pros and dominate.
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                            • 15805
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                              • 06-10-12
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by seaborneq
                              Julio and Andre Smith are the only consensus number 1 players coming from Alabama. They started from day 1 and lived up to the hype and were drafted top 7 respectively. All the other are either homegrown players who were coached up, or good freshman who played 3 years and left, but played in a great system and participated with other great players. That doesn't necessarily translate into being a good pro. When ever I watch SNF or MNF I am still amazed at the "small schools" that put the starters in the NFL on an ongoing basis when each player is allowed to introduce themselves. For example. Purdue, Saginaw State, E Michigan, Troy, Nicholls State, etc.

                              I'm amazed that when they announce the starting lineups almost all the teams have a guy who says his
                              alma mater is some high school. Did they make the team as free agents during tryouts and then work there way into the lineup?
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                              • SilverTongueFox
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                                • 11-23-10
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                                #16
                                Bart Starr, Kenny Stabler, Joe Namath
                                Derrick Thomas, Cornelius Bennett, Ozzie Newsome
                                Bobby Humphrey, Derrick Lassic, Shaun Alexander just for starters.....
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                                • MoneyLineDawg
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                                  • 01-01-09
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                                  #17
                                  As a whole, I agree.....Bama players have not panned out all that great compared to what you would expect

                                  Just as a Jets fan, Dee Milliner had a few terrible games early on but he played really well against New Orleans last game and everyone seems to be high on him in practice etc....Even Darelle Revis was getting abused as a rookie I remember....Tough to judge any player but especially a Corner in the NFL as a rookie
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                                  • DrStale
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                                    • 12-07-08
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                                    #18
                                    Eddie Lacy has been tremendous and other than a concussion hasn't had any injury issues
                                    Originally posted by Dark Horse
                                    If with religion you mean belief system, your belief system is your religion. Again, it matters not what it is. You believe in it, you are loyal to it, would defend it, and yet have no proof of it, other than that, at one point or another, you chose to believe in it. Self-hypnosis. What if there were a snapping of fingers that broke the hypnosis?
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                                    • broadway6
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                                      • 11-14-09
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                                      #19
                                      FSu and Miami players turn out to be better in the pros IMO. Except at the qb position.
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                                      • daneblazer
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                                        • 09-14-08
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                                        #20
                                        Heard some one say the joke in the NFL locker room is if you come from Bama the two things you'll have is a ring and a surgery.

                                        Maybe the physical style they play takes a toll
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                                        • Huckleberry Pig
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                                          • 02-07-13
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                                          #21
                                          Have we accounted for offensive lineman?

                                          Even then, it's just extremely tough to make it in the NFL - very large jump from college. You're going up against the best of the best every single week. Bama always has great college players but even then they are going up against a bunch of college kids.


                                          Like someone mentioned above, it often surprises me when listening to lineups how many guys are from smaller schools.
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                                          • itchypickle
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                                            • 11-05-09
                                            • 21452

                                            #22
                                            Why don't Oregon's

                                            How many MVP candidates do the Bucs have up this year?

                                            Drew Brees went to Purdue....etc etc.

                                            It's like asking Tom Brady to go run a zone read offense or for Johnny Manziel to be as academic as Peyton Manning.....football is all about putting the right players in the right spots at any level.

                                            That being said I see what you've done here....you see the imminent continuation of the Bama dynasty for another season so you resort to this to take away that frustration. Nice job pal.
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                                            • daneblazer
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by itchypickle
                                              Why don't Oregon's

                                              How many MVP candidates do the Bucs have up this year?

                                              Drew Brees went to Purdue....etc etc.

                                              It's like asking Tom Brady to go run a zone read offense or for Johnny Manziel to be as academic as Peyton Manning.....football is all about putting the right players in the right spots at any level.

                                              That being said I see what you've done here....you see the imminent continuation of the Bama dynasty for another season so you resort to this to take away that frustration. Nice job pal.
                                              Nah, actually was a topic i heard on sports radio. They weren't going back as far as Alexander and Namath tho
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                                              • Lowpine
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                                                • 10-16-12
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                                                #24
                                                I see as many Saban players succeeding as I do from other schools. Why is Bama held to the standard of having every player drafted be a probowler? Seems to me this is just something people cling to to take their mind off the fact that Bama wins everything all the time
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                                                • WorkHorse
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                                                  • 08-22-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  One reason many of the highly touted recruits come to Alabama is they believe they will be coached up and better prepared for the NFL if the opportunity comes their way.

                                                  Saban runs NFL type practices....if players can master/excel at Bama, they know they have a good shot of sticking in the big league.

                                                  By the way, I have been watching Alabama football all my life and I'm older than most of you. Bama has had many great players: Lee Roy Jordan, Namath, Stabler, Thomas etc ....but the best pure football player I've ever seen at Bama was offensive guard John Hannah.

                                                  Hannah was All-American at Bama and All-Pro many, many years with the New England Patriots. He's in both the college and pro Hall of Fame. I saw Big John a few months ago and he looked like he could still play. Good guy and hell of a player.
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                                                  • daneblazer
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                                                    #26
                                                    damn Workhorse I thought you left...guess I need to go to the subforum more often
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                                                    • WorkHorse
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                                                      #27
                                                      Dane, Urban cracks the door and lets me sneak in every now and then.

                                                      Thanks Bud!
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                                                      • Noles1992
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                                                        • 08-15-11
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by broadway6
                                                        FSu and Miami players turn out to be better in the pros IMO. Except at the qb position.
                                                        The U all seem to play and succeed a long while, even more than FSU
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                                                        • Mitchell88
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                                                          • 12-16-12
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                                                          #29
                                                          same reason as JJ gold they think being pro makes you so cool you don't worry about putting your best out there you just blow.
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                                                          • alamo
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                                                            • 02-21-09
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                                                            #30
                                                            Main reason is they are beat up by the time they go Pro. Bamas training routine has a lot of these kids burnt out by the time they go pro
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                                                            • tto827
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                                                              • 10-01-12
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                                                              #31
                                                              Nick Saban came to Alabama in 07. His first recruiting class is in their third year in the NFL.

                                                              Maybe because Bama wasn't THAT good when the players who are now in their prime were playing there.

                                                              You need to wait at least 4 more years before this discussion is even worth having.
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                                                              • Powderguy
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                                                                • 09-18-09
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                                                                #32
                                                                lol this thread is pointless, named off 2nd year players that haven't even had the time to blossom
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                                                                • NittanyLionsFan
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                                                                  • 10-26-10
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  The fact that Alabama sends more than 1 player per year to the NFL is an outright miracle. Anyone surprised that they don't do well is a moron. These guys don't do well in college, why would they do well in the pros?
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                                                                  • NittanyLionsFan
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                                                                    • 10-26-10
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    One of the biggest jokes of all time is that scrub Derrick Thomas making it to the hall of fame. Puts a tarnish on the hall for eternity.
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                                                                    • No coincidences
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                                                                      • 01-18-10
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by alamo
                                                                      Main reason is they are beat up by the time they go Pro. Bamas training routine has a lot of these kids burnt out by the time they go pro
                                                                      This.
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