UNC/Miami

pokernut9999 · 02-15-09, 07:31 PM

I like the over.

mmike032 · 02-15-09, 07:32 PM

I like Miami in this one.
could we get the upset trifecta

Fiasco · 02-15-09, 07:35 PM

Over

Fiasco · 02-15-09, 07:36 PM

Originally posted by mmike032

I like Miami in this one.
could we get the upset trifecta

no, unc by 12-16

Chi_archie · 02-15-09, 07:37 PM

Originally posted by mmike032

I like Miami in this one.
could we get the upset trifecta

MMike if we got 3 of the top 4 ACC teams all upset in one day, would that indicate that the top teams are over-rated/vulnerable or that the ACC is alot deeper then anyone thought....

at this point, I gotta think the ACC is deeper then the BE

pavyracer · 02-15-09, 07:37 PM

under 162.5

Chi_archie · 02-15-09, 07:38 PM

2 guys for the over and 1 pavy for the under.....

I guess I lean under

RogueScholar · 02-15-09, 07:39 PM

I took Miami and the points, I like their tenacity at home.

The Seer · 02-15-09, 07:40 PM

sunday college hoops are kinda like thursday college football. I expect some hangover from Carolina as well.

Fiasco · 02-15-09, 07:40 PM

acc is the best conferance

anyone can win on any given day

I'm sure if you bet underdogs in conference games all year you'd show profit (except the duke carolina and carolina st games)

Chi_archie · 02-15-09, 07:42 PM

Originally posted by The Seer

sunday college hoops are kinda like thursday college football. I expect some hangover from Carolina as well.

good point...

tullamore · 02-15-09, 07:43 PM

Took the over 78 in the 1st half, UNC, is like the Phoenix Suns of two years ago, they dont guard anyone, which will fvck the in the ass come the tournament.

mmike032 · 02-15-09, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

MMike if we got 3 of the top 4 ACC teams all upset in one day, would that indicate that the top teams are over-rated/vulnerable or that the ACC is alot deeper then anyone thought....

at this point, I gotta think the ACC is deeper then the BE

to me ACC bball is like SEC football, any team can pull the upset on any day.
but I'll take the points, my cahones arernt big enough for the ML

just reported, Collins( Miami leading rebounder) is out for the game with a turned ankle.

Chi_archie · 02-15-09, 07:46 PM

ouch.... late info

need him to keep Tyler off the boards...

this game ain't on tv??? any feed?

Fiasco · 02-15-09, 07:48 PM

on fsn here

miami's off to a great start

it'll go over (i'm on Parlay of ML with Over)

BeatTheJerk · 02-15-09, 08:15 PM

what no D.Collins for Miami ? fukkkkkkkkk !

Chi_archie · 02-15-09, 08:17 PM

holding their own without him BTJ

BeatTheJerk · 02-15-09, 08:24 PM

Originally posted by Chi_archie

holding their own without him BTJ

thusfar, both teams are playing very wildly in their own right, I'm very suprised miami isn't down 10 pts at the half .............

TPowell · 02-15-09, 11:31 PM

Originally posted by Fiasco

acc is the best conferance

anyone can win on any given day

I'm sure if you bet underdogs in conference games all year you'd show profit (except the duke carolina and carolina st games)

thats bullshit, just because the ACC's "top teams" are losing doesnt make the conference legit. Outside of North Carolina, the rest of the conference is pretty ****ing mediocre. Wake is the only exception, but they have the intelligence of a ****ing brick. The Big East would mop the floor with the ACC in depth AND best _ teams

TPowell · 02-15-09, 11:34 PM

sorry, I'll expand on my last post real quick

Wake: Have lost to the teams they should have beat (they dont come to play AT ALL)
Clemson: LOL if you fell for that shit AGAIN
Duke: A pretty good team..... in the SEC maybe. Seriously, who do they have inside? Nobody!
UNC: Most talented team in the ACC, have had some unexpected losses, but have handled their business against the weaker teams better than the rest for the most part

seaborneq · 02-16-09, 10:44 AM

Wake is all or nothing, win big or lose big, win it all or win nothing. Won't have them busting my bracket this year.

Chi_archie · 02-16-09, 02:43 PM

still very tough to compare these conferences..... I think the bottom dwellers of the ACC may be more talented then the bottom bottom dwellers of the Big East....

middle of the pack teams are up in the air..... this is hard to compare since the Big East has so many more teams...

the top 4 right now I have to give the edge to the Big East.... I think duke and clemson are over-rated and I haven't been impressed with Wake that much either....

unde0087 · 02-16-09, 03:19 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

thats bullshit, just because the ACC's "top teams" are losing doesnt make the conference legit. Outside of North Carolina, the rest of the conference is pretty ****ing mediocre. Wake is the only exception, but they have the intelligence of a ****ing brick. The Big East would mop the floor with the ACC in depth AND best _ teams

and yet ACC 2-0 against the Big East this season, so much talk about Big East dominance and then when it comes time to show us this great dominance they both get embarrassed.

And if you are going to give me that shit about how Georgetown and ND aren't that good, Gtown beat UConn in their own gym.

Chi_archie · 02-16-09, 03:24 PM

Originally posted by unde0087

and yet ACC 2-0 against the Big East this season, so much talk about Big East dominance and then when it comes time to show us this great dominance they both get embarrassed.

where do you get 2-0??????

unde0087 · 02-16-09, 03:28 PM

UNC 102, ND 87
Duke 76, Gtown 67

Chi_archie · 02-16-09, 03:34 PM

those were not the only 2 big east/acc games buster....

at least 5 more... and i'd wager that the BE won more of those....

I know Pitt beat FSU at home
I know Georgetown slaughtered maryland
V.T lost to seton hall

also unc beat rutgers... so acc has won more then 2

i'll have to look up the others...but all told i'd say there are at least 10 games between them....

and you can gather NOTHING from that anyways

Fischnasty · 02-16-09, 03:37 PM

there were a shitload of others too. wake played seton hall, nc state st. johns, duke 'cuse, georgetown UNC to name a few.

anyone have a full list? id be interested in seeing the full results so far...

Chi_archie · 02-16-09, 03:49 PM

a quick count gave me 6-6 BE/ACC

most of the teams that lost, are the bottom dwellers from each conference so you can't really extrapolate much

also, to demonstrate this a big... Big Ten is 7-5 against ACC teams.... does that mean the ACC is inferior to the big ten this year? no...

until we have top ranked teams squaring off we won't know.... and even then we won't know.... that is the beauty of conf vs conf debates

unde0087 · 02-16-09, 04:02 PM

Archie, 11 total: my 2-0, referred to the Big marquee matchups in which both teams were ranked and everyone talked about how good the games were going to be. As a whole BE 6, ACC 5 so where is this dominance at? I mean teams like Marquette had a hard time putting away a not so good NC St. I have respect for the Big East, it is my 2nd favorite conference but to sit here and listen to all this bullshit about Big East would do this and that to the ACC just pisses me off.

FSU 58 Cincy 47 ACC
FSU 48 Pitt 56 BE
UNC 102 ND 87 ACC
UNC 97 Rutgers 75 ACC
Duke 76 Gtown 67 ACC
BC 82 St Johns 70 ACC
Mary 47 Gtown 75 BE
NC St 65 Marquette 68 BE
Miami 63 UConn 76 BE
UV 70 Syracuse 73 BE
VT 73 Seton Hall 77 BE

unde0087 · 02-16-09, 04:03 PM

I guess I may have missed one

TPowell · 02-16-09, 04:06 PM

wait, since when is North Carolina State a bad team? Also, in what world is Marquette a top 4 Big East team? Seriously, why even bring up games that happened in December?

unde0087 · 02-16-09, 04:13 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

wait, since when is North Carolina State a bad team? Also, in what world is Marquette a top 4 Big East team? Seriously, why even bring up games that happened in December?

I didn't say NC St is bad, just seems to me if you are in the top of the Big East, and the Big East is so much more superior as you say, you should be able to handle teams like that more than a last second shot.

TPowell · 02-16-09, 04:14 PM

they havent played anybody though. Marquette is a sinking ship and they still have games against Louisville and UConn. Also that game was at NC State if I remember

Fiasco · 02-16-09, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

thats bullshit, just because the ACC's "top teams" are losing doesnt make the conference legit. Outside of North Carolina, the rest of the conference is pretty ****ing mediocre. Wake is the only exception, but they have the intelligence of a ****ing brick. The Big East would mop the floor with the ACC in depth AND best _ teams

you're kidding if you think they would mop the floor...

I've seen nothing more from the big east this year... one dominate team (uconn) and the rest are mediocre (let pitt be wake)

then lets go ahead and let the "mediocre" teams play it out and I guarantee the acc would win...

just because the acc doesn't have the large number of schools doesn't disqualify the acc from being the toughest conference