The more I think about it the more I think Miami +21 has to be the play

[t-wizzle]

Florida State looks unbeatable right now but they have notoriously come out lame at least once a year for the past 10 seasons or so. Maybe that has all changed with the confident QB Winston but something tells me they play flat tonight.


A lot of this is based on gut feelings and public perception so take that for what it's worth. But right now everyone loves Florida State and seems them as the team that can win a national title (where were those opinions 3 weeks ago???) and meanwhile perception is down on a Miami team that came out hot but has struggled lately, barely escaping upset losses to Wake Forest and UNC.


This game just strikes me as being a lot closer than expected. I think Miami stays within the 3 td number and actually has a shot to win this game. Taking the ML +1050 is worth the shot.

[Ari Gold]

Athletes.

On +22

Clemson's depth doesn't even compare.

[jjgold]

21 seems like a lot of points

Never saw a line like this with two undefeated teams

[pavyracer]

This is like a gift. If this game was played on Week 1 it would have been a -6.5 line.

Unreal!

[Chi_archie]

Will be a big bet game, books ain't giving a gift here

[manny24]

seminoles will wait to lose at wake

they roll here 24-0 halftime

[YOUNGBUCK]

I'm taking Florida St.... Why is the number 7 team getting 21 pts? Looks exactly the same as the Oregon line last week... Renner looked good against the U and he is horrible... Winston will shred that defense

[t-wizzle]

I'm taking Florida St.... Why is the number 7 team getting 21 pts? Looks exactly the same as the Oregon line last week... Renner looked good against the U and he is horrible... Winston will shred that defense

And remember when Stanford was getting 20 points at Oregon last year?

[Bbfromgpt]

You either take Miami or lay off truthfully. Laying 21+ in a rivalry game against a team that has the athletes to compete isn't smart IMO

[ChiLLx]

And remember when Stanford was getting 20 points at Oregon last year?

I remember that game. I had ML at like +800. Such a joke.

[wildcorndog]

Quit thinking about it then.

[YOUNGBUCK]

Don't trust Morris at all Bol TWizz

[etothep]

Don't trust Morris at all Bol TWizz

Like I said before the Clemson game:

Doubt I make a play on this but I will say that there's no way I'm putting my money in the hands of BoydMorris here

[stevenash]

The points look tempting, agreed.

However, because of the way the shitty system is set up, the only chance a program has a chance to win a National Championship is to finish #1 or #2 in the BCS standings.

Right now, #1 and #2 belong to Alabama and Oregon and the only way Ohio State and Florida State can move to the top 2 spots is a) Alabama and Oregon lose, doesn't look like that is happening, or put up box car numbers to make voters take notice.

Case in point, Ohio State did not have to run up 56 points, that game was over mid way second.
OSU felt they had to. After all they are sitting #4, and 56-0 will catch a voters eye quicker than say a 31-0 win.

See where I am going here?

If Florida State beats Miami in a squeaker, voters are inclined to say 'status quo'
If FSU croaks Miami by say, 28, voters may leap frog them over Oregon.

So, FSU will be looking to run it up.
Will they is another story, so, given everything I just said, FSU will be balls to wall on every possession and that could lead to a 20 + point win.

I may use FSU in a tease, I may or may not bet them straight up ATS small, but I don't want any part of the Hurricanes in this spot.

[TonyTall]

This is like a gift. If this game was played on Week 1 it would have been a -6.5 line.

Unreal!

yeah and now we know winston is the next charlie ward and fsu can hang 50 on anyone. we also know miami's qb is trash and they slip by marginal teams. so if you think you are somehow being gifted 14.5 pts your wrong

however, fsu is at an all time high as far as value for fading them , so maybe you are getting 4-5 pts here and the true line is 17

[t-wizzle]

I remember that game. I had ML at like +800. Such a joke.

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-talk/2026970-any-chance-oregon-kansas-state-lose-tonight.html

[Pivotpoint]

21 points is a ton of points. Still, want nothing to do with Canes.

Noles will get real physical with hated Mia. Crowd will be drunk,loud and cheering for Cane blood.

Cane offense will struggle.

Does anyone really think the Seminole offense will stymied here?

Fear the Spear

[Smoke]

Square

[ChiLLx]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/players-ta...e-tonight.html

That was a great evening. Took both MLs small and didn't bother with spread.

Still, not sure how it compares to this game tonight. Rivalry situation. Last year Oregon and Marriota were bound to get out-physicaled at some point, plus I always felt like Kelly's offense was a gimmick and it's players almost robot like. Marriota is a system player. Doesn't seem like a guy that has "it" or that killer instinct when faced with adversity. Winston reminds of some of those players that come along once every few years and dominate the college level and will their team to victory (ie Vince Young, Tebow, Newton). Manziel could've been that guy but the off the field shit proved he never really cared about taking his team all the way.

So spread might be inflated based on perception, but ML seems a reach. Although these players have played against each their whole lives and probably know each other well.

[t-wizzle]

That was a great evening. Took both MLs small and didn't bother with spread.

Still, not sure how it compares to this game tonight. Rivalry situation. Last year Oregon and Marriota were bound to get out-physicaled at some point, plus I always felt like Kelly's offense was a gimmick and it's players almost robot like. Marriota is a system player. Doesn't seem like a guy that has "it" or that killer instinct when faced with adversity. Winston reminds of some of those players that come along once every few years and dominate the college level and will their team to victory (ie Vince Young, Tebow, Newton). Manziel could've been that guy but the off the field shit proved he never really cared about taking his team all the way.

So spread might be inflated based on perception, but ML seems a reach. Although these players have played against each their whole lives and probably know each other well.

I could not disagree more about Mariota. Mariota is basically a Kaepernick clone. Fast as hell with a cannon. He's a big guy and with some work he has the ability to become a very good pro. I think he is going #1 overall in the draft.

[ChiLLx]

I could not disagree more about Mariota. Mariota is basically a Kaepernick clone. Fast as hell with a cannon. He's a big guy and with some work he has the ability to become a very good pro. I think he is going #1 overall in the draft.

We will see then. Next Thursday's Stanford game will say a lot.

[t-wizzle]

We will see then. Next Thursday's Stanford game will say a lot.

Take Oregon chiller.

[Big Bear]

t-wizzle i dont know .. Miami played poorly against some really bad teams
like Wake and UNC

[Tommy Karate]

sharps agree

[Potentate]

sharps agree

Agree with what? Miami +21?

[sneakerhead]

miami is the play

[Potentate]

miami is the play

Almost purely on principal really, seems like. 21 points?
What is this, the best FSU team ever? (Actually not being sarcastic with that question.)

[cmoney11]

100% laying off this game. It'll be a fun one to watch. I think Miami actually shows up to play...Still loses but makes it a closer game than people think. If i was forced to bet, I'd take the Miami points.

[MUHerd37]

Miami has looked horrible lately. Really should have lost at home last week to Wake. To have them ranked #7 is a joke. GL tho.

[frostno98]

When two rank teams play each other and the other being a double digit dog, the double digit dog usually doesn't cover.

[ChiLLx]

When two rank teams play each other and the other being a double digit dog, the double digit dog usually doesn't cover.

Incredible insight.

[tylerguy02]

Florida St. -11 in third leg of my #2 10 pt teaser today. I would normally put at least a small wager on a big game like this, but I think there is no way to predict this game.

[tylerguy02]

The more I look at it the more I want to be the square bet of O 64. I think I'll also be adding FSU -14 & O 57 7 pt tease for fun. I'm only doing this because I'm a degen and I see both of these teams slinging it tonight.

[BriGuy]

The line is a little artificially high because of FSU's domination of Clemson, but I'm afraid of taking Miami since I think FSU could easily want "style points" and still be going all out if they have, say, a 17 point lead halfway through the 4th. I staying away from the side and going with the total: Over.

[Pivotpoint]

Noles looked amped.

21 not enough.