If clippers have subpar year it's time to trade Paul

**KiDBaZkiT** · 10-30-13, 11:12 AM

Very undisciplined group. Have been for years. They don't have any good character guys outside of Paul. That's why they got run off the floor by a d league squad in the 4th last night.

Rivers is an overrated coach. Garnett did so much from a leadership standpoint he made Rivers look much better. Garnett got those teams to grind and play hard, not Glen Rivers.

**jjgold** · 10-30-13, 11:14 AM

This Season will make or break doc rivers as a coach

Boston Celtics had much mentally tougher players and very physical

**lakerboy** · 10-30-13, 11:26 AM

Paul is the most overrated player in the league. Guy is a joke.

**Coolin** · 10-30-13, 11:33 AM

You have no idea what you're saying. Don't judge a team by 1 game. They will be fine. I'm pretty sure you'll say something like "Spurs are done, they're too old" if they start 0-2 or something.

**Coolin** · 10-30-13, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by lakerboy

Paul is the most overrated player in the league. Guy is a joke.

He's the best PG in the game right now. Maybe 2nd after Parker.

**VegasInsider** · 10-30-13, 11:34 AM

Doc has a very tough road ahead. Only two guys on that team even WANT to play defense and that's Paul and Jordan. Blake is massively overrated on both ends of the floor and Crawford openly admits he doesn't play defense. Very tough for your key reserve to not play D

**ChalkyDog** · 10-30-13, 11:35 AM

I think the Clippers will be very solid this year. You already saw them be 100x more focused on defense than at any point since CP3 got there.

Doc will be able to use the Laker game as a teaching tool.

It was probably the best thing that could have happened in the early part of their season.

**pavyracer** · 10-30-13, 11:36 AM

Wow lets trade him after the 1st game of an 82 game season.

JJ are you out of your medications?

**firedawg** · 10-30-13, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Wow lets trade him after the 1st game of an 82 game season.

JJ are you out of your medications?

**Roy Halladay** · 10-30-13, 11:53 AM

I'd have to say that their struggles have zero to do with Paul and if anything, he's in his prime.

**Roy Halladay** · 10-30-13, 11:55 AM

Blake Griffin on the other hand, you are correct on him. Dude has shown no signs of taking his game to the next level. Needs more post game and mid-range touch. His free throw shooting cost me Clippers team total over 105 last night

**ChalkyDog** · 10-30-13, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Roy Halladay

I'd have to say that their struggles have zero to do with Paul and if anything, he's in his prime.

I can somewhat get behind this. Especially CP3 in his prime aspect, even more so since he is with the best coach he has had in his career.

CP3 has a long history of being a regular season hero, and Fantasy basketball superstar.

The guy gets stats without question. I just don't know how many W's those stats contribute to, especially in big spots.

In my opinion, this team will be as good as Deandre Jordan allows them to be. He's the x-factor.

**Gonz312** · 10-30-13, 12:21 PM

The clipps biggest problem is that they are soft. They will make the playoffs and possibly even have homecourt in the first round, but these guys aren't built for playoff basketball when intensity steps up. Paul gets all whiny and starts playing dirty when you play him physically, Blake goes and hides in a closet if you play him physically. These are supposedly your star players, but they would prefer to be divas.

At one point Reggie Miller (who I can't stand as a play by play commentator) said something along the lines of "Blake obviously didn't work on his post game this summer". This guy is suppose to be the future, the face of the franchise and his lack of development as an all around player was smack in the face of a national audience first game of the season. But I'm sure the guy has a blast shooting all those kia commercials.

**Big Bear** · 10-30-13, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by Coolin

He's the best PG in the game right now. Maybe 2nd after Parker.

better than Kemba Walker?

**Louisvillekid1** · 10-30-13, 12:27 PM

CP3 is now overrated?

What a joke

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 10-30-13, 12:34 PM

not only does jj have a small penis, i'm willing to bet he's a premature ejaculator.

overreact much???

**Luckycharms2012** · 10-30-13, 12:38 PM

If anyone has to go it's Blake.

**Speedy88** · 10-30-13, 12:44 PM

Paul is far from the problem. They'll never win the ship as long as Griffin and DeAndre Jordan are their starting front court. Individually, they're good players, but they don't compliment each other very well. For one, that front court will give you about 50% FT shooting all year. But the main part is that neither of them can stretch the floor. Both guys have to be in the paint to be effective. The new age of basketball can't have two paint guys on the court at the same time, one of them has to be capable of stepping out from 15 feet and hitting jumper. Which is why I thought they should have made a move for KG. As old as KG is, he could free up a lot of space for Blake in the paint.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 10-30-13, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by Luckycharms2012

If anyone has to go it's Blake.

i agree, what did this fukker do during summer? suck cokk?

still can't shoot fts and didn't develop any post moves. what a bum.

**Coolin** · 10-30-13, 12:47 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

better than Kemba Walker?

Much better.

**pulledclear** · 10-30-13, 12:52 PM

IF, AND I mean IF. Trade Griffin if you can get anyone to bite. They will have to eat some money but he is WAY overrated.

**bubblebuttluv** · 10-30-13, 12:52 PM

Dude's thinking CP3 is overrated?

Lol, fukking ridiculous.

**konck** · 10-30-13, 12:55 PM

CP3 is the best shot creater in the game besdes the fact he dishes out asst.

**thetrinity** · 10-30-13, 12:58 PM

cp3 been in the league 8 years and never made the conference finals.

u will find out a lot about him and doc rivers this season.

**ChalkyDog** · 10-30-13, 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Big Bear

better than Kemba Walker?

No, Kemba is the best PG alive right now.

**Ghenghis Kahn** · 10-30-13, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by ChalkyDog

No, Kemba is the best PG alive right now.

**Roy Halladay** · 10-30-13, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by Ghenghis Kahn

i agree, what did this fukker do during summer? suck cokk?

still can't shoot fts and didn't develop any post moves. what a bum.

Hahaha.

**I am the one** · 10-30-13, 02:35 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

He really has done nothing with this team nor taking them to the next level

His best years are behind him

Blake Griffin massively overrated

As is most of the clipper roster too many soft players

Spurs or Oklahoma City autolock for the NBA finals

Dumbest post I've read in weeks

**Menses** · 10-30-13, 02:59 PM

Chris Paul has always gotten a pass for failure...he's good but he is not Tony Parker...If does not succeed with Doc, it not only reflects badly on Rivers, it falls on him as well...still too early to jump the gun though...

**Speedy88** · 10-30-13, 03:21 PM

Lol at everyone overreacting after one game. This isn't the NFL guys, there are still 81 more games.

**gojetsgomoxies** · 10-30-13, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by pulledclear

IF, AND I mean IF. Trade Griffin if you can get anyone to bite. They will have to eat some money but he is WAY overrated.

agreed 100%.... he is good though for "plays of the night"

..... not sure what the trade interest would be for him.

**KiDBaZkiT** · 10-30-13, 04:40 PM

Nobody even read the title to the thread. He said "IF" they "have a bad YEAR."

You guys acting like he said "oh man you see that game?? It's over for clippers for eternity trade him."

Read carefully and STAY IN YOUR LANE!

**HustleGetPaid** · 11-01-13, 08:46 AM

Big game last night from CP3. They are only relevant since CP3 got there. New coach, new system let's see how this season unfolds...

**jjgold** · 11-01-13, 10:15 AM

He must of read the thread

Lets see how year plays out and then pull up thread