Peyton Manning does not impress me

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  • lakerboy
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 04-02-09
    • 94379

    #141
    Originally posted by C-Gold
    I don't think so. Rodgers holds onto the ball too long and led the NFL in sacks.

    Manning can create his own offense. He knows the X's and O's better than any coordinators.
    you cant be serious> maning would have died behind that packers line by now.
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    • t-wizzle
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      • 12-18-09
      • 38099

      #142
      Manning is as surgical as it gets but he gets exposed in the playoffs against better defenses. He simply doesn't have the arm strength to make all the throws and the cold weather doesn't help.

      Rodgers has all the talent in the world. While he might not be able to dissect a defense like Manning, he can put the ball exactly where it needs to be with a lot of zip on it. Almost indefensible. He's one of the most skilled qbs ever. Funny because Favre was the same way, he just took more chances.
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      • C-Gold
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-04-10
        • 6808

        #143
        Originally posted by lakerboy
        you cant be serious> maning would have died behind that packers line by now.
        The year before Manning got injured he had one of the worst lines I have ever seen and no running game at all.

        Rodgers holds onto the ball too long. That isn't always a terrible thing, some guys throw the ball downfield more so they have to hold onto the ball longer. Drew Bledsoe and Kurt Warner come to mind. These guys weren't dropping back and throwing dump offs to their RBs. But Rodgers is in a west coast offense. He holds onto the ball too long but he has a real low INT rate so I can live with it.

        I have been on the rodgers bandwagon since the very beginning, before others but he isn't perfect.
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        • crustyme
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 09-29-10
          • 16896

          #144
          Originally posted by lakerboy
          you cant be serious> maning would have died behind that packers line by now.
          you are an idiot.

          peyton has one of the quickest releases in the nfl. rodgers has one of the slowest and his holding on to the ball too long is nothing new, even his own coach has publicly criticized him for it.

          stick to croquet and cooking curry, indian dummy.
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          • ChiLLx
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 12-24-11
            • 5412

            #145
            Denver best WRs in the league, best O-line, best kick returner.
            We've seen this story before. 2007 Patriots, 2009 Colts, 2011 Packers, 2013 Broncos.

            It all ends the same way in the end.
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            • lakerboy
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 04-02-09
              • 94379

              #146
              Let's see who is in gb longer- mccarthy or rodgers.
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              • CrazyCarl
                SBR MVP
                • 10-09-11
                • 1437

                #147
                Peyton is one of the best ever certainly, but right now I'd rather have Brady or Rodgers with all of those weapons than Peyton.

                Brady's got a better deep ball and is more accurate, but is the worst out of the three if not getting good protection. I'd still take him because I don't think this would be a huge problem with this offense, and he could help spread the defense even more.

                Rodgers is the best at succeeding regardless of the pressure (his lines have been consistently bad), which becomes more important in the playoffs.

                If Peyton could consume Eli's clutchness, he would be the best ever.
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                • GunShard
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                  • 03-05-10
                  • 10031

                  #148
                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                  Let's see who is in gb longer- mccarthy or rodgers.
                  Mccarthy would get fired first.
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                  • frostno98
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 09-11-07
                    • 9769

                    #149
                    Originally posted by ChiLLx
                    Denver best WRs in the league, best O-line, best kick returner.
                    We've seen this story before. 2007 Patriots, 2009 Colts, 2011 Packers, 2013 Broncos.

                    It all ends the same way in the end.
                    You didn't see the 1996 Broncos either, that was the #1 seed that got shocked by Jacksonville in the 1st round. That same broncos ended up winning b2b superbowl the following years after. Great teams don't make the same mistake twice.
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                    • ChiLLx
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 12-24-11
                      • 5412

                      #150
                      Originally posted by frostno98
                      You didn't see the 1996 Broncos either, that was the #1 seed that got shocked by Jacksonville in the 1st round. That same broncos ended up winning b2b superbowl the following years after. Great teams don't make the same mistake twice.
                      Have Pats won since 07?
                      Have Colts won since 09?
                      Have Packers won since 11?

                      Different era of the NFL here.
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                      • The Kraken
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 12-25-11
                        • 28918

                        #151
                        Ya, we're the ones missing the point

                        You cant even see the trees in the forrest
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                        • slacker00
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                          • 10-06-05
                          • 12262

                          #152
                          I can't wait for Peyton's #1 seed to lose in the first round playoffs to some scrappy double digit dog yet again this year.
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                          • frostno98
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 09-11-07
                            • 9769

                            #153
                            Originally posted by slacker00
                            I can't wait for Peyton's #1 seed to lose in the first round playoffs to some scrappy double digit dog yet again this year.
                            Boy you have a really sad life my friend. Go get some pussy there's more to life than rooting for good people like Peyton to fail.
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                            • downsouth
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 01-13-11
                              • 11580

                              #154
                              Originally posted by slacker00
                              I can't wait for Peyton's #1 seed to lose in the first round playoffs to some scrappy double digit dog yet again this year.
                              Doesnt the #1 seed get a first round bye in the playoffs? But hey, why let logistics or facts get in the way of bold predictions.
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                              • crustyme
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 09-29-10
                                • 16896

                                #155
                                op is impressed by lakerboy's capping but not peyton's qbing.

                                that's all you need to know about this dumbfuk.

                                lol
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                                • slacker00
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-06-05
                                  • 12262

                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by downsouth
                                  Doesnt the #1 seed get a first round bye in the playoffs? But hey, why let logistics or facts get in the way of bold predictions.
                                  I can't wait for Peyton's #1 seed to lose in his first round playoffs to some scrappy double digit dog yet again this year.

                                  Is it really that tough to understand what I obviously meant? That's the most pathetic nitpick I've ever seen.
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                                  • stevenash
                                    Moderator
                                    • 01-17-11
                                    • 65641

                                    #157
                                    Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                    Manning is as surgical as it gets but he gets exposed in the playoffs against better defenses.
                                    He doesn't have to be a mad bomber.
                                    The Broncos have a 1000 different schemes that does not involve putting the ball down field for 40 yards in the air.

                                    That scheme they have with Welker in the backfield is pretty much indefensible.
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                                    • Itsamazing777
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                                      • 11-14-12
                                      • 12602

                                      #158
                                      To the op.

                                      LEAVE SBR.
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                                      • una13ombr
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 04-15-09
                                        • 229

                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                        This gushing over Peyton is really out of control lately. You would think he was the second coming of Jesus.

                                        I seriously don't see what all the hoopla is over, we've seen this before. The guy has been doing this for years. Picking apart defenses surgically, putting up gawdy numbers. Big deal. All he hardly ever does is throw short passes. The NFL has always been about making the big play in the passing game. Too bad he has a candy arm these days.

                                        Look he's playing great I get it. But he chokes every year (except 06) and repeatedly comes up small in the big moment.

                                        All you dopes and can keep jerking off along with ESPN to king Peyton. I'm not impressed. Yawn.


                                        Loser who understands nothing about the NFL.. move along peasant
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65641

                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by slacker00
                                          I can't wait for Peyton's #1 seed to lose in the first round playoffs to some scrappy double digit dog yet again this year.
                                          They Bronco's don't play a first round game this year.

                                          The team's that Peyton has started QB for are 9-11 in the post season.

                                          Of those 11 losses, maybe two of them are on Peyton.

                                          Is it Manning's fault Rahim Moore has a brain fart and takes a who knows what fuk angle on Jacoby Jones and gets toasted.
                                          Is it Manning's fault Champ Bailey got abused and beat like a red headed step child by Torrey Smith?

                                          That 17-16 loss to the Jets, Manning completed 70 percent of his passes, and had a QB rating of an ungodly 108.
                                          What exactly was his crime there?
                                          1 TD, no INT's on that Jet defense is huge.

                                          The Charger loss in '08 was a fluke out there in SD
                                          Not his fault at all again.

                                          Do I really have to post all the games the Manning lead teams that lost weren't really on Manning?

                                          Do your home work guey before posting next time.
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                                          • Smoke
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 10-09-09
                                            • 48111

                                            #161
                                            Nashy good write up
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                                            • lakerboy
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 04-02-09
                                              • 94379

                                              #162
                                              its never manning's fault when he loses but when brady and the pats get knocked out its always toms fault.
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                                              • crustyme
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 09-29-10
                                                • 16896

                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                its never manning's fault when he loses but when brady and the pats get knocked out its always toms fault.
                                                kinda like when you went 0-14 -180 psi, you blamed the coaches, players, cheerleaders, fans, weather, gravity, wind, solar flares, uv rays, etc. but never blamed your own stupidity and lack of knowledge.
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65641

                                                  #164
                                                  Originally posted by crustyme
                                                  kinda like when you went 0-14 -180 psi, you blamed the coaches, players, cheerleaders, fans, weather, gravity, wind, solar flares, uv rays, etc. but never blamed your own stupidity and lack of knowledge.
                                                  lmfao
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                                                  • stevenash
                                                    Moderator
                                                    • 01-17-11
                                                    • 65641

                                                    #165
                                                    Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                    its never manning's fault when he loses but when brady and the pats get knocked out its always toms fault.
                                                    Find me the post season games that a Manning lead team lost and you could say "My God, Manning really phucked his team with that performance"

                                                    Maybe two, tops
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                                                    • t-wizzle
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 12-18-09
                                                      • 38099

                                                      #166
                                                      I love the angry responses in this thread. Really strange how people can get mad at someone for their opinion on a football player.
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                                                      • etothep
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 09-14-07
                                                        • 1299

                                                        #167
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                                                        • crustyme
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 09-29-10
                                                          • 16896

                                                          #168
                                                          Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                          I love the angry responses in this thread. Really strange how people can get mad at someone for their opinion on a football player.
                                                          opinions based on stupidity is still stupidity.
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                                                          • wquine
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 09-30-09
                                                            • 2046

                                                            #169
                                                            I'm wearing a patriots jersey as i type this and I can tell you that peyton is a great pocket passer. He's more accurate than brady, a great preparer, knows the x's and o's... Just missing a few elements that gives Brady a slight edge. A very slight edge. I can go into those if needed but I respect the talent.
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                                                            • stevenash
                                                              Moderator
                                                              • 01-17-11
                                                              • 65641

                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by crustyme
                                                              opinions based on stupidity is still stupidity.
                                                              You can't fix stupid.
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                                                              • lakerboy
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94379

                                                                #171
                                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                Find me the post season games that a Manning lead team lost and you could say "My God, Manning really phucked his team with that performance"

                                                                Maybe two, tops

                                                                how long you been watching manning?

                                                                Peyton Manning Playoffs Game Log

                                                                Playoffs

                                                                Age is Years-Days · Glossary · SHARE · Embed · CSV · PRE · LINK · ?

                                                                1 1999 17 2000-01-16 23-298 IND TEN L 16-19 * 19 42 45.24% 227 0 0 62.3 5.40 5.40 2 22 11.00 1 1 6
                                                                2 2000 17 2000-12-30 24-281 IND @ MIA L 17-23 * 17 32 53.13% 194 1 0 82.0 6.06 6.69 1 -2 -2.00 0 0 0
                                                                3 2002 17 2003-01-04 26-286 IND @ NYJ L 0-41 * 14 31 45.16% 137 0 2 31.2 4.42 1.52 1 2 2.00 0 0 0
                                                                4 2003 17 2004-01-04 27-286 IND DEN W 41-10 * 22 26 84.62% 377 5 0 158.3 14.50 18.35 1 0 0.00 0 0 0
                                                                5 2003 18 2004-01-11 27-293 IND @ KAN W 38-31 * 22 30 73.33% 304 3 0 138.7 10.13 12.13 1 -1 -1.00 0 0 0
                                                                6 2003 19 2004-01-18 27-300 IND @ NWE L 14-24 * 23 47 48.94% 237 1 4 35.5 5.04 1.64 2 4 2.00 0 0 0
                                                                7 2004 17 2005-01-09 28-291 IND DEN W 49-24 * 27 33 81.82% 458 4 1 145.7 13.88 14.94 1 1 1.00 1 1 6
                                                                8 2004 18 2005-01-16 28-298 IND @ NWE L 3-20 * 27 42 64.29% 238 0 1 69.3 5.67 4.60 1 7 7.00 0 0 0
                                                                9 2005 17 2006-01-15 29-297 IND PIT L 18-21 * 22 38 57.89% 290 1 0 90.9 7.63 8.16 0 0 0 0 0
                                                                10 2006 17 2007-01-06 30-288 IND KAN W 23-8 * 30 38 78.95% 268 1 3 71.9 7.05 4.03 2 -2 -1.00 0 0 0
                                                                11 2006 18 2007-01-13 30-295 IND @ BAL W 15-6 * 15 30 50.00% 170 0 2 39.6 5.67 2.67 3 5 1.67 0 0 0
                                                                12 2006 19 2007-01-21 30-303 IND NWE W 38-34 * 27 47 57.45% 349 1 1 79.1 7.43 6.89 2 0 0.00 1 1 6
                                                                13 2006 20 2007-02-04 30-317 IND N CHI W 29-17 * 25 38 65.79% 247 1 1 81.8 6.50 5.84 1 0 0.00 0 0 0
                                                                14 2007 17 2008-01-13 31-295 IND SDG L 24-28 * 33 48 68.75% 402 3 2 97.7 8.38 7.75 1 -6 -6.00 0 0 0
                                                                15 2008 17 2009-01-03 32-285 IND @ SDG L 17-23 * 25 42 59.52% 310 1 0 90.4 7.38 7.86 1 -1 -1.00 0 0 0
                                                                16 2009 17 2010-01-16 33-298 IND BAL W 20-3 * 30 44 68.18% 246 2 1 87.9 5.59 5.48 2 -2 -1.00 0 0 0
                                                                17 2009 18 2010-01-24 33-306 IND NYJ W 30-17 * 26 39 66.67% 377 3 0 123.6 9.67 11.21 1 0 0.00 0 0 0
                                                                18 2009 19 2010-02-07 33-320 IND N NOR L 17-31 * 31 45 68.89% 333 1 1 88.5 7.40 6.84 0 0 0 0 0
                                                                19 2010 17 2011-01-08 34-290 IND NYJ L 16-17 * 18 26 69.23% 225 1 0 108.7 8.65 9.42 0 0 0 0 0
                                                                20 2012 17 2013-01-12 36-294 DEN BAL L 35-38 * 28 43 65.12% 290 3 2 88.3 6.74 6.05 1 -1 -1.00 0 0 0
                                                                20 Games 481 761 63.21% 5679 32 21 88.4 7.46 7.06 24 26 1.08 3 3 18
                                                                if this an impressive playoff career toy ou then you have low standards. look at his superbowl year and how many picks he threw. the colts ahd some very good speed based defenses when he was there. the guy is the most overrated qb ever. he just does not produce much when it counts the most
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                                                                • Mike Huntertz
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 08-19-09
                                                                  • 11207

                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by t-wizzle
                                                                  This gushing over Peyton is really out of control lately. You would think he was the second coming of Jesus.

                                                                  I seriously don't see what all the hoopla is over, we've seen this before. The guy has been doing this for years. Picking apart defenses surgically, putting up gawdy numbers. Big deal. All he hardly ever does is throw short passes. The NFL has always been about making the big play in the passing game. Too bad he has a candy arm these days.

                                                                  Look he's playing great I get it. But he chokes every year (except 06) and repeatedly comes up small in the big moment.

                                                                  All you dopes and can keep jerking off along with ESPN to king Peyton. I'm not impressed. Yawn.
                                                                  You on drugs or just whackin the weenie too much?
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                                                                  • danthaman101183
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 07-24-07
                                                                    • 386

                                                                    #173
                                                                    Manning is incredible..but when it gets cold and a blitzing defense plays the broncs it could be interesting..the chiefs may surprise a few.. Half their guys on defense may make the pro bowl this yr..they lead the nfl in sacks..and they have 2 shutdown corners and a safety in berry that will challenge any crossing patterns and pick off deep passes...the chiefs may not have the offense to beat the broncs but they will give them a run for their money on defense
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                                                                    • ragman
                                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                                      • 11-27-12
                                                                      • 67

                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by ChalkyDog
                                                                      Who does impress you? Mike Vick?
                                                                      This. What does it take to impress you? I'd like to know.
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                                                                      • stevenash
                                                                        Moderator
                                                                        • 01-17-11
                                                                        • 65641

                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                        how long you been watching manning?
                                                                        Long enough to know that Peyton and Brady have the same, identical pass completion percentage in the post season

                                                                        I guess Tom is overrated too?
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