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  • jjgold
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 07-20-05
    • 388208

    #71
    Strange thread
    Strange Strategies here

    Paver is right just pick winners
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    • HUY
      SBR Sharp
      • 04-29-09
      • 253

      #72
      Originally posted by pavyracer
      I started with a $1000 bankroll 3 weeks ago and now I have a $3500 bankroll. 99% of my bets were -EV.

      Does it matter when I request a check for $2500 today?
      It matters that you have no clue what +EV means.
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      • pavyracer
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 04-12-07
        • 82666

        #73
        Originally posted by HUY
        It matters that you have no clue what +EV means.
        I know what it is. I just don't use it in my bets cause I win betting -EV all the time. Follow the sharp money.
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        • The Kraken
          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
          • 12-25-11
          • 29085

          #74
          Think Tanked

          like any fukkers in here know about EV
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          • The Giant
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 01-21-12
            • 21480

            #75
            The Kraken understands gambling verbiage better than anyone in the industry.

            When he speaks, just do what he says. Don't ask questions.
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            • V4Value
              SBR Sharp
              • 09-01-13
              • 368

              #76
              Originally posted by The Kraken
              Think Tanked

              like any fukkers in here know about EV
              lol This thread won't end and out of most of the posts only 2 or 3 give a general description of what it means, the rest is PRIME TIME examples.
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              • BriGuy
                SBR MVP
                • 12-06-11
                • 1416

                #77
                Originally posted by The Kraken
                You have no clue what + and - even really is

                It is not a term you use when you feel good about a bet

                Its a mathematical concept, more specifically a statistics concept

                Ive taken stats, you guys clearly are using it wrong
                People will use it to justify taking a bet that will probably lose, but has a positive expected value. For example, suppose I bet that the next roll of a 6-sided die will be 1, and the payout if I win is 10-1. I expect I am going to lose, but that bet sure has a +EV, so it's a good play. Similarly, suppose I calculate a 1 in 6 chance Philly beats Denver and the ML for Philly is +1000 (this is just an example, the line is not actually that high). There's nothing wrong with me coming in here and saying I calculate a +EV on Philly. However, as is the case with everything in here, it all comes down to our abilities to prognosticate. If I take 20 games where I calculate a team has a 1 in 6 chance of winning, but then none of those teams do, then my prognostication, not my math, skills are to blame.
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                • Albert Pujols
                  SBR MVP
                  • 06-01-10
                  • 1670

                  #78
                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                  I know what it is. I just don't use it in my bets cause I win betting -EV all the time. Follow the sharp money.
                  Don't be ridiculous. If you win consistently, you have an edge, and therefore are betting +ev plays. It's that simple.

                  Is Brock Landers betting +ev? No, but that guy could hit 65% and still lose. Grinding +ev with discipline is the only way to win. Period.
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                  • onemoregoal
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-04-13
                    • 8149

                    #79
                    Originally posted by BriGuy
                    People will use it to justify taking a bet that will probably lose, but has a positive expected value. For example, suppose I bet that the next roll of a 6-sided die will be 1, and the payout if I win is 10-1. I expect I am going to lose, but that bet sure has a +EV, so it's a good play. Similarly, suppose I calculate a 1 in 6 chance Philly beats Denver and the ML for Philly is +1000 (this is just an example, the line is not actually that high). There's nothing wrong with me coming in here and saying I calculate a +EV on Philly. However, as is the case with everything in here, it all comes down to our abilities to prognosticate. If I take 20 games where I calculate a team has a 1 in 6 chance of winning, but then none of those teams do, then my prognostication, not my math, skills are to blame.
                    best answer.
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                    • The Kraken
                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                      • 12-25-11
                      • 29085

                      #80
                      Originally posted by BriGuy
                      People will use it to justify taking a bet that will probably lose, but has a positive expected value. For example, suppose I bet that the next roll of a 6-sided die will be 1, and the payout if I win is 10-1. I expect I am going to lose, but that bet sure has a +EV, so it's a good play. Similarly, suppose I calculate a 1 in 6 chance Philly beats Denver and the ML for Philly is +1000 (this is just an example, the line is not actually that high). There's nothing wrong with me coming in here and saying I calculate a +EV on Philly. However, as is the case with everything in here, it all comes down to our abilities to prognosticate. If I take 20 games where I calculate a team has a 1 in 6 chance of winning, but then none of those teams do, then my prognostication, not my math, skills are to blame.
                      Maybe your prognostication math skills are to blame. Regardless, if you ever find a +even play, you gotta go all in. You have a +expectation of winning.
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                      • BriGuy
                        SBR MVP
                        • 12-06-11
                        • 1416

                        #81
                        Originally posted by The Kraken
                        Maybe your prognostication math skills are to blame. Regardless, if you ever find a +even play, you gotta go all in. You have a +expectation of winning.
                        That's not necessarily true. You have to consider how often a +EV play comes about. If +EV plays come about fairly frequently, it won't do much good if you're bankrupt because you went all-in on the last one and it didn't pan out.
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                        • nikkaaay
                          SBR Rookie
                          • 08-08-13
                          • 38

                          #82
                          Originally posted by The Giant
                          The Kraken understands gambling verbiage better than anyone in the industry.

                          When he speaks, just do what he says. Don't ask questions.
                          The Kraken understands gambling verbage better than anyone.

                          pavyracer gets $2500 check payouts weekly.

                          pavy > kraken
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                          • The Kraken
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 12-25-11
                            • 29085

                            #83
                            Pavy is a legend. I am a grinder
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