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  • C-Gold
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    • 09-04-10
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    #1
    How inflated will Eagles week 2 line be?
    If the Redskins won a back and forth 28-24 type game like this was expected to be then what would the Eagles/Chargers line be next week? Chargers @ Eagles for a 1 PM kickoff, 7-9 West coast team traveling East for a 1PM kickoff against a 4-12 team with a new coach/schemes.

    If the Eagles/Redskins game were "normal", Philly would probably be -3 or -3.5 vs San Diego in week 2.

    Now that ESPN and everybody is going to hype Phila and the Chip Kelly offense the Eagles will be -7 +/- depending on the Chargers game injuries/outcome.
  • C-Gold
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    • 09-04-10
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    #2
    Philly is -7 at some books
    Philly is -7.5 at the Vegas hotels
    Philly is -8 at 5 dimes


    Just think, 1 half of football made the next weeks line swing 4 points. If Eagles 2nd half did nothing for them, if they played the whole game like that they'd be laying -3, or -3.5 after they lost the game. But since they were so impressive in Q1 and Q2 Philly is laying 7 to 7.5.

    So do you like that value on SD

    OR

    Do you favor the MNF DOG that won outright and was impressive and had a 4 point swing in their line???
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    • k13
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 07-16-10
      • 18104

      #3
      Philly was -2.5 before Week 1...

      A little inflated....
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      • pavyracer
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        • 04-12-07
        • 82839

        #4
        It's not inflated. You have one team which will win 10 games and another one that is going to win 4 games. It's like the Falcons and the Ravens. A good team facing a shitty team at home. Don't try to over-analyze it.
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        • C-Gold
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          • 09-04-10
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          #5
          Originally posted by pavyracer
          It's not inflated. You have one team which will win 10 games and another one that is going to win 4 games. It's like the Falcons and the Ravens. A good team facing a shitty team at home. Don't try to over-analyze it.
          I still don't think Philly is a 10 win team. They led the league in turnovers last year and have the same guys.

          Vick was already limping in this game, do you really think he plays more than 10-12 games?
          Shady is a concussion away from a front row seat of the action for a few weeks.
          Their #2 WR is Riley KKKooper and his QB is the biggest 66er in the league.
          The defense was below average this year, they looked OK early but are they better than average?
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          • Gonz312
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            • 01-22-11
            • 1467

            #6
            Key is being able to stay on the field and the skins looked inept in the first half which inflated the play count and the hurry up offense. I dont trust phillys defense enough to help their offense like that again. Prob will win, but definitely inflated
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            • C-Gold
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              #7
              Originally posted by Gonz312
              Key is being able to stay on the field and the skins looked inept in the first half which inflated the play count and the hurry up offense. I dont trust phillys defense enough to help their offense like that again. Prob will win, but definitely inflated
              That was an underrated aspect.

              Yeah Philly was running a lot of plays but when RG KNEE goes 3 and out then of course the Eagles offense will be on the field more often.
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              • Vinnie Paz
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                • 03-27-12
                • 12177

                #8
                Anybody is a concussion away from front row for a few weeks

                Makes no sense there man
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                • jjgold
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                  • 07-20-05
                  • 388179

                  #9
                  Line did not move much

                  not even infated

                  lines makers not convinced on Eagles yet
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                  • k13
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                    • 07-16-10
                    • 18104

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pavyracer
                    It's not inflated. You have one team which will win 10 games and another one that is going to win 4 games. It's like the Falcons and the Ravens. A good team facing a shitty team at home. Don't try to over-analyze it.
                    Neither team is that good or that bad.
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                    • pavyracer
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                      • 04-12-07
                      • 82839

                      #11
                      Originally posted by C-Gold
                      I still don't think Philly is a 10 win team. They led the league in turnovers last year and have the same guys.

                      Vick was already limping in this game, do you really think he plays more than 10-12 games?
                      Shady is a concussion away from a front row seat of the action for a few weeks.
                      Their #2 WR is Riley KKKooper and his QB is the biggest 66er in the league.
                      The defense was below average this year, they looked OK early but are they better than average?
                      Name one player of the Chargers that can cause a concussion to Vick or Shady. They let that bum Shaub carve them into pieces for 25 min. Eagles will score in the 30's every game this season.
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                      • lakerboy
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                        • 04-02-09
                        • 94379

                        #12
                        Chargers ml is a very good play.
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                        • C-Gold
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                          • 09-04-10
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Vinnie Paz
                          Anybody is a concussion away from front row for a few weeks

                          Makes no sense there man
                          McCoy has a concussion history. Having a 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th concussion increases the danger of the concussion. They aren't all created equally. When your brain is smashing against your skull it could F you up for the rest of your life. Not good for a mid-twenty something muti-millionaire who hopes to live to 75.
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                          • C-Gold
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                            • 09-04-10
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by jjgold
                            Line did not move much

                            not even infated

                            lines makers not convinced on Eagles yet
                            The line would have been Eagles -3.

                            The Monday night happened.

                            Now it is Eagles -7.5

                            How did that not move the line? ESPN is jizzing themselves over Chip Kelly right now.
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                            • ChalkyDog
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                              • 10-02-11
                              • 9598

                              #15
                              The shift on the superbowl odds for the Eagles was one of the most drastic I have ever seen.

                              There will be value on the otherside of the Eagles. Especially once DC's get their hands on tape.
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                              • C-Gold
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                                • 09-04-10
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by pavyracer
                                Name one player of the Chargers that can cause a concussion to Vick or Shady.
                                Dwight Freeney
                                Jarret Johnson
                                Eric Weddle
                                Any of the other 300+ pound D-Lineman
                                Any of the other 250+ pound linebackers
                                Any of the other 200+ pound safeties running full speed

                                Vick gets injured every season. It's one thing you can always count on.
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                                • C-Gold
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by ChalkyDog

                                  There will be value on the otherside of the Eagles. Especially once DC's get their hands on tape.
                                  I agree. But is it worth it this week or is it worth it later in the season after some DC's experiment?

                                  Dogs that win outright on MNF that are then favored by 8 points the next week are probably historically awful, awful plays. Probably fail to cover 75%+, maybe 80%.

                                  History is really against the Eagles here. I might have to take SD just for that.
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                                  • C-Gold
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                                    • 09-04-10
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by k13
                                    Neither team is that good or that bad.
                                    Chargers were 7-9 last year
                                    Eagles were 4-12

                                    People forget what a turnover machine Vick was last year. He already has 1 backwards pass/laterial pick 6.
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                                    • brooks85
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                                      • 01-05-09
                                      • 44709

                                      #19
                                      inflated enough to take the under
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                                      • The Kraken
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                                        • 12-25-11
                                        • 28918

                                        #20
                                        Phillies will be a Hugh public play.

                                        As is Alabama and Louisville.

                                        Should we fade the public on these??

                                        I bet 90% of BTP bettors are on at least 2/3 of those picks.
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                                        • pavyracer
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                                          • 04-12-07
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                                          #21
                                          You are basing your bet on the chance that Vick and Shady will get concussed early in the next game. Just think about how stupid is that angle.
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                                          • C-Gold
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by The Kraken
                                            Phillies will be a Hugh public play.

                                            As is Alabama and Louisville.

                                            Should we fade the public on these??

                                            I bet 90% of BTP bettors are on at least 2/3 of those picks.
                                            Vegas doesn't care if the public win a few big TV games. They know they will give it all back.
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                                            • C-Gold
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pavyracer
                                              You are basing your bet on the chance that Vick and Shady will get concussed early in the next game. Just think about how stupid is that angle.
                                              No hamburger, I don't like Philly this YEAR due to the injury risks.

                                              Philly is a dog that won outright on MNF and is now a 7 point favorite the next week to a team that won 3 more games than them last year. They are laying a freaking touchdown after being an underdog the week before. This doesn't happen very often but when it does it isn't good for backers.

                                              History is on the Chargers +7.5.
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                                              • pavyracer
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                                                • 04-12-07
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by C-Gold
                                                No hamburger, I don't like Philly this YEAR due to the injury risks.

                                                Philly is a dog that won outright on MNF and is now a 7 point favorite the next week to a team that won 3 more games than them last year. They are laying a freaking touchdown after being an underdog the week before. This doesn't happen very often but when it does it isn't good for backers.

                                                History is on the Chargers +7.5.
                                                They were a road dog last week and a home fav this week. 90% of the times a team is a road dog or a home fav. Check this weeks lines. How many road favs can you find?
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                                                • C-Gold
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                                                  • 09-04-10
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  They were a road dog last week and a home fav this week. 90% of the times a team is a road dog or a home fav. Check this weeks lines. How many road favs can you find?
                                                  They are a dog that won outright and are a favorite this week. To further magnify the effect they did so on MNF. Their hype and their line is inflated. Teams in their situation lose a huge clip. History is against the Eagles this week. No guarantee but they have a 10-30% chance of winning and covering.
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                                                  • pavyracer
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                                                    • 04-12-07
                                                    • 82839

                                                    #26
                                                    If you were a linesman and you saw Chargers 2nd half performance where they wouldn't get a 1st down for 25 minutes and couldn't stop Texans because they were not conditioned properly and couldn't make it through 60 min of football why wouldn't you give Eagles 7 points at home? Chargers are the worst conditioned team in the league and they have to fly 3,000 miles where the Eagles took the bus to Washington DC last week.
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                                                    • The Kraken
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                                                      • 12-25-11
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                                                      #27
                                                      Anyone that thinks the Chargers cover needs to quit.
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                                                      • TheGuesser
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                                                        • 08-10-05
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                                                        #28
                                                        The line before week 1's games was Philly -6.5. Now it's Philly -7-7.5. Not much movement. Both teams played similar week one games. Get up big early, and hold on for dear life. Except SD couldn't hang on. Philly should win easily against a demoralized team traveling 3000 miles.
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                                                        • birdmanweezy
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                                                          • 04-18-10
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                                                          #29
                                                          Sd will be a cover machine this year fair line is eagles -3
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                                                          • C-Gold
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                                                            #30
                                                            You are welcome.
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