Local Book Raises Juice from -110 to -115 for upcoming football seasons

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  • Romanov
    SBR MVP
    • 10-08-10
    • 4137

    #1
    Local Book Raises Juice from -110 to -115 for upcoming football seasons
    Do I stick with it? I don't want to have to go online and risk pay-outs, etc. The 5 cents could be big
  • BIGDAY
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 02-17-10
    • 48245

    #2
    Stick with it.
    Pick winners.

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    • Big Bear
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 11-01-11
      • 43253

      #3
      stick with it. online gambling is illegal
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      • KiDBaZkiT
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-20-09
        • 14962

        #4
        Online isn't as sketch as you think. That being said if you have a local take that. Payouts cost money online, sometimes over 10% of what you are taking out. Online will add much more than 5cents as well. Online has NFL spreads at -135 on occasion and -115 and -120 religiously.
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        • the_situation
          SBR MVP
          • 10-22-10
          • 2735

          #5
          find a new book... 15 cents of juice is a joke and increases your break even point by quite a bit
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          • TwoWays
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 03-24-10
            • 13145

            #6
            No, don't accept that vig. It is too high. Ask him for the vig level you had in years past. If he doesn't accept, then don't play. Vig of -15 or higher (for locals), usually are used for the lesser bet on sports in the U.S., like soccer and such. Unless your bookie focuses on accepting soccer bettors as his mainstay.
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            • jjgold
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 07-20-05
              • 388179

              #7
              Too high

              Romero they are looking for suckers man and you will be one of them

              Stay away
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              • thetrinity
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 01-25-11
                • 22431

                #8
                laugh in the guys face and go online or find someone else
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                • Romanov
                  SBR MVP
                  • 10-08-10
                  • 4137

                  #9
                  Originally posted by jjgold
                  Too high

                  Romero they are looking for suckers man and you will be one of them

                  Stay away
                  I think the guy is getting married and wants to stabilize his cash flow this fall. He is probably pushing the action onto another guy and plans on pocketing the 5% diff.
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                  • Romanov
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-08-10
                    • 4137

                    #10
                    Originally posted by the_situation
                    find a new book... 15 cents of juice is a joke and increases your break even point by quite a bit
                    An increase of 1.1%
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                    • Romanov
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-08-10
                      • 4137

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KiDBaZkiT
                      Online isn't as sketch as you think. That being said if you have a local take that. Payouts cost money online, sometimes over 10% of what you are taking out. Online will add much more than 5cents as well. Online has NFL spreads at -135 on occasion and -115 and -120 religiously.
                      what online is good for american players? so you are saying that the payout fees will end up being > than the 5% increase in juice i'd pay locally?
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                      • jjgold
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 07-20-05
                        • 388179

                        #12
                        5 Dimes
                        Bookmaker
                        Intertops
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                        • downsouth
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 01-13-11
                          • 11580

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Romanov
                          what online is good for american players? so you are saying that the payout fees will end up being > than the 5% increase in juice i'd pay locally?

                          If your someone who deposits the min and wants a payout every week after you win then yes it will be too much to outrun. However, if you play any sort of volume for any amount whatsoever than the -115 will be substantially more costly in the long run.
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                          • Ralphie Halves
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-13-09
                            • 4507

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Romanov
                            An increase of 1.1%
                            Now compound that 1.1% over time.
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                            • allabout the $$$
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 04-17-10
                              • 9843

                              #15
                              plenty of other locals around you can always find another especially if you live in a big city
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                              • tblues2005
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-30-06
                                • 9235

                                #16
                                That's too high and unless you are in a rural area I would find another local or go online.
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                                • ParlayininHTown
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 06-27-10
                                  • 7561

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jjgold
                                  5 Dimes
                                  Bookmaker
                                  Intertops

                                  JJ, you're telling him not to pay juice at his local, but you're recommending Bookmaker?
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                                  • Rich Boy
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 02-01-09
                                    • 9714

                                    #18
                                    It wont matter if he gives off numbers. If his numbers are sharp then dont play, better off with 5dimes reduced juice or some other low juice option.

                                    All about getting the best price
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                                    • Naz18
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 09-10-09
                                      • 4277

                                      #19
                                      Too high...
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                                      • easyliving
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 06-25-12
                                        • 8876

                                        #20
                                        guys got a family to feed too. juice only matters when your losing. stick with the local
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                                        • Romanov
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 10-08-10
                                          • 4137

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                          It wont matter if he gives off numbers. If his numbers are sharp then dont play, better off with 5dimes reduced juice or some other low juice option.

                                          All about getting the best price
                                          He does post some stale lines. I just loaded up a little on 5dimes, but im going to keep an eye on his lines to see if they are so far off that there is value in taking them even at -115
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                                          • TheMetsSuck
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-14-12
                                            • 6146

                                            #22
                                            5dimes and heritage pay me out within 48 hrs everytime. The payout fee is peanuts if you are withdrawing a good chunk of change. You can hit a parlay for a 100k and not have to worry about being paid either. Depending on the local I always feel sketched out winning anything over 10k. Been screwed in the past. It's hard enough stringing together that good run or that great parlay to make the big bucks. Why not guarantee yourself a payout in case you do catch fire?
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                                            • CoachJB
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 05-08-12
                                              • 358

                                              #23
                                              You're nuts to even consider it, whoever the guy is he must be a real numbnuts considering the entire world deals -110 or better.
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                                              • The Kraken
                                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                • 12-25-11
                                                • 28918

                                                #24
                                                Depends where he's getting the numbers from
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                                                • raydog
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 11-07-07
                                                  • 6984

                                                  #25
                                                  95+% of gamblers have absolutely no chance at beating -110... trying to beat -115 is a lost cause
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                                                  • jjgold
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 07-20-05
                                                    • 388179

                                                    #26
                                                    bookie definitely trying to price gauge you

                                                    he has to be a real rookie or a bubble gummer

                                                    stay away
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                                                    • pavyracer
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 04-12-07
                                                      • 82840

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by raydog
                                                      95+% of gamblers have absolutely no chance at beating -110... trying to beat -115 is a lost cause
                                                      How come I beat the books with -200 lines or worse in soccer? If there is value in -200 you bet it. Most gamblers are afraid to lay -300 on a soccer game when there is 95% chance of the bet cashing.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388179

                                                        #28
                                                        Paver most cannot beat -110

                                                        Your not most

                                                        of course alwsys exceptions

                                                        The guy betting -105 in most cases going to bury the guy betting -110
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                                                        • the_situation
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 10-22-10
                                                          • 2735

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                          How come I beat the books with -200 lines or worse in soccer? If there is value in -200 you bet it. Most gamblers are afraid to lay -300 on a soccer game when there is 95% chance of the bet cashing.
                                                          that is different than playing ATS games at -115 a piece
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                                                          • raydog
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 11-07-07
                                                            • 6984

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                            How come I beat the books with -200 lines or worse in soccer? If there is value in -200 you bet it. Most gamblers are afraid to lay -300 on a soccer game when there is 95% chance of the bet cashing.
                                                            you can bet -115 nfl sides and totals with me until one of us gives up... you know how it will end
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                                                            • InTheDrink
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-23-09
                                                              • 23983

                                                              #31
                                                              people actually tell him to stay with the gueye

                                                              go find another gueyy

                                                              its not that fukkin hard

                                                              jesus i have 5 cent lines right now with my hueye
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                                                              • Rich Boy
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 02-01-09
                                                                • 9714

                                                                #32
                                                                Why do you spell like "gueye" you trying to act tough or something?

                                                                You sound like a jersey shore douchebag with that kind of crap. Show some respect.
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                                                                • pavyracer
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                                  • 82840

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by raydog
                                                                  you can bet -115 nfl sides and totals with me until one of us gives up... you know how it will end
                                                                  Sure if you offer me -115 on soccer I will. Post some soccer lines.
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                                                                  • InTheDrink
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-23-09
                                                                    • 23983

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Rich Boy
                                                                    Why do you spell like "gueye" you trying to act tough or something?

                                                                    You sound like a jersey shore douchebag with that kind of crap. Show some respect.
                                                                    ok guyuey
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                                                                    • Romanov
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 10-08-10
                                                                      • 4137

                                                                      #35
                                                                      for the record, i have played ncaab totals with this guy that have been 10 points off the off-shore number, and cfb spreads that have been up to 6 points off, so yes the -115 is worth it in some cases. going to use the sbr half-point calculator that most of the idiots in players talk dont know about
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