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  • ApricotSinner32
    Restricted User
    • 11-28-10
    • 10648

    #1
    Why do the sportsbooks win?
    Is it really because of the vigorish or is it something else?
  • Deuce
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    • 01-12-08
    • 29843

    #2
    Hamburgers like you that think they have a shot to make it big. Casinos same way, designed to always have house edge. You're supposed to lose, odds are always against you.
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    • edawg
      SBR MVP
      • 07-09-11
      • 2866

      #3
      Mathematics + greed
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      • Smoke
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-09-09
        • 48111

        #4
        Its the vig
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        • jjgold
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 07-20-05
          • 388208

          #5
          -110

          case closed
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          • billysink
            Restricted User
            • 03-29-09
            • 5172

            #6
            Most fukks do not understand the games they bet on. Not one bit.
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            • teaserpleaser
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              • 08-14-08
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              #7
              Originally posted by billysink
              Most fukks do not understand the games they bet on. Not one bit.
              If you have ever spent time at any of the vegas books you know this the truth.
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              • pattymayo
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 05-19-09
                • 10221

                #8
                No emotion factor

                Books don't chase
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                • Easy-Rider 66
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                  • 02-14-12
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                  #9
                  Psychological Factors and the Vig.
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                  • jjgold
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 07-20-05
                    • 388208

                    #10
                    Patty is one of the reasons books win

                    He goes all in after he builds a bankroll

                    Would bet anything on a game, watch, rings, radios, tv, etc

                    sick gambler
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                    • unluckysob
                      SBR MVP
                      • 05-21-08
                      • 1527

                      #11
                      Books could not operate on -110---comes out to 4% hold after expenses----vegas would love to rip out sports book and put in slots---they know enough players are dumb, will chase, play high vig plays----
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                      • blankoblanco
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-18-11
                        • 3466

                        #12
                        10% vig is huge. If the linesmakers can set lines that are close to accurate, they don't even need to care what % is on each side because they'll rake in the cash in the long run. They might get crushed by the public one week, but if their lines are good, they'll just make up for it crushing the public in another week.

                        Oh and their edge on stuff like futures is ridiculous, and the public loves those. Futures are like guaranteed free money for books. Heat won in NBA and books still made a bajillion dollars on futures because they win every bet made on every single other team.
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                        • terpkeg
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                          • 10-26-09
                          • 2371

                          #13
                          Never up enough. Always down too much. We are all sickos.
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                          • The Kraken
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                            • 12-25-11
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                            #14
                            What JJ said as well as their ability to limit winning players. Don't under estimate the importance of risk management. Look at BI
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                            • manny24
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                              • 10-22-07
                              • 20174

                              #15
                              apricotsports only viable option for us players

                              offering skype blackjack and online haircuts
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                              • DwightShrute
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                                • 01-17-09
                                • 101430

                                #16
                                parlays
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                                • new era
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                                  • 07-28-13
                                  • 1470

                                  #17
                                  Because people think they know more than they do.
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                                  • ZetaPsi808
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                                    • 09-18-08
                                    • 12119

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by manny24
                                    apricotsports only viable option for us players

                                    offering skype blackjack and online haircuts


                                    manny i am working out of the new york office for apricotsports

                                    venditto said we are running a 10% reload special on all active accounts

                                    manny post all plays in this thread and then we can settle up on tuesday

                                    of course deposits working a little faster then payouts but that is standard
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                                    • 6thtime
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 05-29-13
                                      • 101

                                      #19
                                      greed and fear
                                      It's a lethal combination
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                                      • Naz18
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                                        • 09-10-09
                                        • 4277

                                        #20
                                        They don't, they're a charity and give money away.
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                                        • iifold
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                                          • 04-25-10
                                          • 11111

                                          #21
                                          -110...

                                          Compulsion...
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                                          • jjgold
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 07-20-05
                                            • 388208

                                            #22
                                            Looks like -110 is the consensus
                                            Non USA players just have a better shot because of all exchanges available and massive amount of books they can play at , most of them lose too but at least they have some advantages .

                                            Booting winners was a great answer too , it eliminates the few with a clue,
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                                            • biff
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                                              • 08-10-10
                                              • 1806

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by jjgold
                                              Looks like -110 is the consensus
                                              Non USA players just have a better shot because of all exchanges available and massive amount of books they can play at , most of them lose too but at least they have some advantages .

                                              Booting winners was a great answer too , it eliminates the few with a clue,
                                              do not forget euro books with all their live betting options. it's hard to hedge at US books when you have very limited options to do so if at all. hedging is key to staying in the game longer.
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                                              • jjgold
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                                                • 07-20-05
                                                • 388208

                                                #24
                                                Biff excellent point
                                                Deposits and withdrawls easy and free too
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                                                • Smoke
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                                                  • 10-09-09
                                                  • 48111

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by manny24
                                                  apricotsports only viable option for us players

                                                  offering skype blackjack and online haircuts
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                                                  • easyliving
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 06-25-12
                                                    • 8876

                                                    #26
                                                    Only sport where I continously lay -110 is Basketball. Majority of my other bets are +money bets.
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                                                    • biff
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                                                      • 08-10-10
                                                      • 1806

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by jjgold
                                                      Biff excellent point
                                                      Deposits and withdrawls easy and free too
                                                      really considering moving to Canada if the situation does not change here. i will not mention a plus for free health care as that is known to be shit. i would be going just for the gambling. just want to bet on a live games naked or in my underwear. i have lost so damn much as of late that could have been nice winners if i had live betting.
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                                                      • jjgold
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 07-20-05
                                                        • 388208

                                                        #28
                                                        How easy to get citizenship in Canada from USA?
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                                                        • biff
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 08-10-10
                                                          • 1806

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by jjgold
                                                          How easy to get citizenship in Canada from USA?
                                                          no clue but i heard it can get pretty expensive. i'm a lifetime losing bettor as well so would need a job.

                                                          my dream:

                                                          logging in Canada. i like it and it would pay for my gambling and living.
                                                          sports at night

                                                          it will never happen. good luck gold.
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                                                          • easyliving
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 06-25-12
                                                            • 8876

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by biff
                                                            no clue but i heard it can get pretty expensive. i'm a lifetime losing bettor as well so would need a job.

                                                            my dream:

                                                            logging in Canada. i like it and it would pay for my gambling and living.
                                                            sports at night

                                                            it will never happen. good luck gold.
                                                            I've considered this for a while now as well. How expensive are we talking here? The free health care and the weather is a huge plus as well. I can't stand these hot summer days.
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                                                            • outtahere
                                                              SBR Rookie
                                                              • 07-23-13
                                                              • 25

                                                              #31
                                                              Because people think they can look at past results to predict what will happen. You should try to predict which mood your wife will come home in instead. It's impossible
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                                                              • hotelis
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 05-31-12
                                                                • 1995

                                                                #32
                                                                cause people pound favourites? why dont they ( myself included) fade themselves? wouldnt we be up BIG??? or is it that we like to be "right". It is hard putting money on something that im not content with.
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                                                                • pavyracer
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 04-12-07
                                                                  • 82685

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Books win because most gamblers use previous stats to predict outcome of games. However, games are played by humans..not stats.
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                                                                  • Deuce
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                                                                    • 01-12-08
                                                                    • 29843

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Hank, you think I could pull off a work V I S A there in Canada as a professional gambler?
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                                                                    • biff
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 08-10-10
                                                                      • 1806

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by easyliving
                                                                      I've considered this for a while now as well. How expensive are we talking here? The free health care and the weather is a huge plus as well. I can't stand these hot summer days.
                                                                      i'm hearing around 30k. not positive, though. that price seems a little insane, just going by what i read/heard from time to time. yes, cold weather is a nice plus.

                                                                      i really can not think of one fault Canada has. grass is always greener though. i just think in my opinion it seems like a gamblers paradise.
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