Are all touts a scam?

[eyeball]

Are any of these guys legit? I hear some are honest and ok,but are the others just manipulating their results?

Its a huge industry, I am not speaking of the phone guys but about the online sites, there are a ton of them

Besides the well known scammers, do some of the smaller guys as a whole do they provide a useful service?
How about free picks?

[TheMoneyShot]

If any service was legit... we'd all be living in 500k homes.

[Smoke]

Fade the touts you will win $$$$

[eyeball]

[jjgold]

98% are scammers and frauds

[SamDiamond]

Paying a tout is the dumbest thing a gambler can do.

There isn't a single angle you can come up with that would make it smart.

[manny24]

west coast gets the favorite

east coast gets the dog

next day switch

a few guys hit 3 or 4 winners in a row offer them $premium plays

rinse repeat

[Smoke]

Manny gets it

[byronbb]

Most touts are con-men who are just playing mugs both sides of the same game. There ARE guys who are legit who would rather sell picks with a long term win-rate than have to suffer the emotional and financial swings associated with gambling. If you have 100k roll and can win at 55% ATS you are limited to wagering about $5k a game with an ev of $250 a game. If you can make even half that selling your picks then you should do so. The only issue is guys who buy picks want to win at 75% and have no discipline actually getting a good #.



Checkout picksmonitor.com for a tout tracking site.

[manny24]

99% of us are undisciplined sick action junkies

most of us broke couldn't finance the steam off a hot dog

[jjgold]

many make good money because so many suckers across the globe

I was always ahead of the curve....I said to myself..why they giving games?? How come they do not just bet themselves

[Reload]

With football coming up, I think it's time for JJ to do one of his tout calls

[Big Bear]

If any service was legit... we'd all be living in 500k homes.

not true. There "are" some handicappers out there for hire that hit at a 65% and higher clip.

However , this is obviously cant be guaranteed but it happens.

My point of view though is that these expert cappers are very pricey and i personally would rather have the money that i'm paying the tout to put on a wager my self.

The other issue i have is the # of plays these touts promote...

if i was paying a tout i would want a tout that maybe only gave 2 to 3 plays a month that hit at 80% or higher.

no capper out there can pick winners daily but if you are a spot bettor and just go big on 1 or 2 plays a month you can be a bookies worst nightmare.

[jjgold]

Reload I have one or two

Bear with me

They are con pros and sound so convincing and trap so many guys

[flyingillini]

west coast gets the favorite

east coast gets the dog

next day switch

a few guys hit 3 or 4 winners in a row offer them $premium plays

rinse repeat

Ese Manny knows the deal!

[manny24]

Ese Manny knows the deal!

flyer not rocket surgery here

same as the games at the carnival guey

[flyingillini]

flyer not rocket surgery here

same as the games at the carnival guey

Thin Mint Cookies and Sherbert are the real deal! Makes Girl Scout cookies look like Amature hour.

[JayLA]

Paying someone to tell me what they THINK might happen in something as dynamic as sports betting just seems like a complete waste of money to me.

[manny24]

still getting any platinum pink lemonade?

illinois we are in week 8 halfway home ese

[the_situation]

yep, if they were so good wouldn't need to charge
plenty of free legit cappers

[BennyBigNuts]

No reason to ever pay money for something you are favored to lose with betting to begin with (Unless you're betting MLB which you can consistently beat every year).
You can find guys like Brock Landers to fade and profit, or tail Benny in MLB hahahahahahaha.
Internet has ruined that whole scam.
Those guys used to make a ton back in the day though. It was the most wonderful pyramid scheme ever for football.
I know guys who have worked for the companies, pretty funny stuff how they did it.

[Dickie Greenleaf]

I have a friend who got destroyed on ATS consultants picks...consistently destroyed

[sbrhedge]

not true. There "are" some handicappers out there for hire that hit at a 65% and higher clip.

However , this is obviously cant be guaranteed but it happens.

My point of view though is that these expert cappers are very pricey and i personally would rather have the money that i'm paying the tout to put on a wager my self.

The other issue i have is the # of plays these touts promote...

if i was paying a tout i would want a tout that maybe only gave 2 to 3 plays a month that hit at 80% or higher.

no capper out there can pick winners daily but if you are a spot bettor and just go big on 1 or 2 plays a month you can be a bookies worst nightmare.

BIG +1 to this post.

same thing in the trading world - avoid the middle like the plague. go extremely high frequency to increase MAR/Sharpe ratios, or bet a couple times a month and HIT IT VERY HARD.

all the guys i know who have really good and consistent performance ratios over a long time are either very high or very low frequency bettors.

one guy i know only waits for the weather pattern to change at Wrigley Field or San Diego's park. Then he bets only the over/under. from all the times we chatted, he has only missed ONCE in the last 3 years i have known him, and he is the ONLY guy i would tail in this situation.

the other guy i know bets almost EVERY game every day in MLB, and his average winning line is above +100 with a 55% win rate. that definitely dampens the drawdowns.

[ChalkyDog]

Give a man a fish.... Teach a man to fish....

If you go the tout route, and it left you feeling "ripped off", please don't bitch about it in public.

[olemissbydamn]

hey man ill sell you huge big time winners just 99 payments of $1000 promise you will win some games.. oh man ok I see you are a cool guy ill cut you the friend discount 98 payments of $1000 because I see you are a serious gambler and seem like a good guys. man I just gave you 1000 off for free WINNERS. no better deal than this just go ahead let's do it send me your money and ill go ahead and start making you big time $$$$$$$ allsalesarefinal allall dgfg

[olemissbydamn]

On a serious note, if these guys were so good at capping they wouldn't be trying to make a living charging you for their picks they'd be killing the books and relaxing. I think if you want to follow picks SBR is one of the best places to do so there are some great cappers on here who post their picks and the fact that they are risking their own money as well says a lot.

[jjgold]

On a serious note, if these guys were so good at capping they wouldn't be trying to make a living charging you for their picks they'd be killing the books and relaxing. I think if you want to follow picks SBR is one of the best places to do so there are some great cappers on here who post their picks and the fact that they are risking their own money as well says a lot.

[Big Bear]

Are any of these guys legit? I hear some are honest and ok,but are the others just manipulating their results?

Its a huge industry, I am not speaking of the phone guys but about the online sites, there are a ton of them

Besides the well known scammers, do some of the smaller guys as a whole do they provide a useful service?
How about free picks?

yeah some are legit. i mean it is what it is. you pay for someone elses picks. the key is knowing who to trust.

i spend a lot of time on this site so i know who to listen to and who is full of shit.

Trace- excellent NFL capper
Benny Big nuts- best MLB capper
Louisville kid and T-Wizzle- best NCAA capper

[eidolon]

Most touts are legit.
Best way to find out is to buy a year subscription to about 10-20 of them