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  • Big Bear
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 11-01-11
    • 43253

    #36
    Originally posted by No coincidences
    I give up.
    haha i knew you wouldnt like that one. Too early to compare to Maddux i know.

    But the guy has a fresh arm he is from New Hampshire and only played about 10-20 games a year growing up.

    He is fresh , he is raw , and he has yet to reach his full potential.
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    • ThingsFallApart
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 12-24-10
      • 880

      #37
      Originally posted by No coincidences
      Typical three-paragraph diatribe from someone who supposedly doesn't care. LOL.

      You are a joke.
      I have never been a "part" of the argument. My one post before that is commenting on the same thing my second post was: big bear is not making an argument he is doing the age old "i know more about baseball" shtick. I have 0 to say on what is the argument: colon v. locke. 3 paragraph diatribe? I posted what 6 sentences? I said I don't care about the locke v. colon because I am laying off, not that I don't care about the thread in general.
      Coin you calling anyone a "joke" is rich. You post on average 40+ times a day here for the past 3.5 years, sorry this board isn't life and death to others.
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      • Smoke
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 10-09-09
        • 48111

        #38
        "Locke has amazing stuff"
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        • whtsox13
          SBR MVP
          • 05-02-12
          • 1401

          #39
          Originally posted by Big Bear
          He is a left handed Greg Maddux if you will.
          I won't. Maddux was a maestro even with bad teams behind him. If Locke tried on Maddux's jockstrap it'd be way too big.
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          • No coincidences
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 01-18-10
            • 76300

            #40
            Originally posted by ThingsFallApart
            I have never been a "part" of the argument. My one post before that is commenting on the same thing my second post was: big bear is not making an argument he is doing the age old "i know more about baseball" shtick. I have 0 to say on what is the argument: colon v. locke. 3 paragraph diatribe? I posted what 6 sentences? I said I don't care about the locke v. colon because I am laying off, not that I don't care about the thread in general.
            Coin you calling anyone a "joke" is rich. You post on average 40+ times a day here for the past 3.5 years, sorry this board isn't life and death to others.
            As per usual, the more you supposedly couldn't care less, the more you post about it.

            Why comment as much as you do if it supposedly is of no consequence to you and you have no opinion about it? Both classic and typical.
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            • No coincidences
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 01-18-10
              • 76300

              #41
              Originally posted by ThingsFallApart
              You post on average 40+ times a day here for the past 3.5 years, sorry this board isn't life and death to others.
              Do you know how long it takes to post 40 times? About 2 minutes total, especially when I'm responding to stupidity like yourself. I know you know that, even if you couldn't care less.
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              • teeder
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-05-11
                • 145

                #42
                I'm backing the A's because they're great and I like them a lot - is that a good reason? (From a betting perspective, probably not good enough, but this is recreation for me, I'm not a 'pro' like some of you guys.)

                Apart from that, Colon's been getting more run support than any pitcher in the AL except Scherzer: 6 runs/gm - actual figure is 5.94. I don't know if this is per 9 ip or per start but it's the comparison with Locke that matters, not the actual stat: 6 runs/gm compared to about 3 1/2.

                Sure, the A's could get shut out or score one lousy run like they did in Colon's last start vs the Cubs, but I'm just hoping they'll get back to putting up runs for him the way they usually do, even against Madd- I mean Locke.
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                • altieriflyers
                  SBR Wise Guy
                  • 07-23-12
                  • 777

                  #43
                  There isn't much difference to measure on the mound here, and the one big difference is the A's, and the AL in general; their ability to win in inter-conference tilts. Oakland is 8-2 in their last 10 in inter-league play vs. a winning team, and 26-9 to a total of 7-8.5 in their last 35. Oakland has also gone 20-6 in Colon's last 26 starts. The Pirates are just 23-51 vs. an interleague club over .500. I`m going A`s tonight.
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                  • LT Profits
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 10-27-06
                    • 90963

                    #44
                    Locke has more walks over the first half of this season than Maddux used to have in two full seasons combined. That is how Maddux maintained good FIP levels with fewer strikeouts.
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                    • Big Bear
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 11-01-11
                      • 43253

                      #45
                      Originally posted by No coincidences
                      Do you know how long it takes to post 40 times? About 2 minutes total, especially when I'm responding to stupidity like yourself. I know you know that, even if you couldn't care less.
                      tell'em coiner. And we be postin from our iphones
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                      • 2daBank
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 01-26-09
                        • 88966

                        #46
                        bear is the biggest prisoner of the moment i have ever seen around this joint, he has corbin and locke as 1st ballot HOF'ers
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                        • No coincidences
                          SBR Aristocracy
                          • 01-18-10
                          • 76300

                          #47
                          Originally posted by LT Profits
                          Locke has more walks over the first half of this season than Maddux used to have in two full seasons combined. That is how Maddux maintained good FIP levels with fewer strikeouts.
                          I don't even know where to begin in any comparison to Maddux -- other than the fact that they're both MLB pitchers. It ends there.
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                          • joco
                            SBR MVP
                            • 04-24-11
                            • 3242

                            #48
                            Originally posted by ThingsFallApart
                            I have never been a "part" of the argument. My one post before that is commenting on the same thing my second post was: big bear is not making an argument he is doing the age old "i know more about baseball" shtick. I have 0 to say on what is the argument: colon v. locke. 3 paragraph diatribe? I posted what 6 sentences? I said I don't care about the locke v. colon because I am laying off, not that I don't care about the thread in general.
                            Coin you calling anyone a "joke" is rich. You post on average 40+ times a day here for the past 3.5 years, sorry this board isn't life and death to others.
                            you are such a self righteous piece of shit. every comment u make is condescending and u never once have contributed anything positive to this forum.

                            fight me u pussy
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                            • 2daBank
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 01-26-09
                              • 88966

                              #49
                              i understand ya'll liking oak, hell it hard not to, cause yea while colon pitching over his head it way easier to see him continuing to do so while the writing been on the wall for locke and As offense more than capable of cashing in all the runners phils left stranded last start..i waited on oak cause i figured that line was gonna flip and it has served me well over the years never betting against the team the books open as favs and money drives them to dogs, obviously not 100% or i would be rich but ive learned more times than not much better off trusting who the oddsmakers originally opened as the favs as opposed to who the money determined should be at close..

                              with that said maybe it gives me a little belief that buccos can score off colon cause im pretty damn confident oak gonna put 4 across tonight..please give me any ump but some crazy wide strike zone under loving freak cause that nice plus money on the over is just begging me to take it, lol..
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                              • Big Bear
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 11-01-11
                                • 43253

                                #50
                                bank do u like the mets tonight?
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                                • ThingsFallApart
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 12-24-10
                                  • 880

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by joco

                                  fight me u pussy
                                  that's gold. I have no idea who you are bud but another one on the Ignore List.
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                                  • Gus Fring
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 03-21-13
                                    • 3423

                                    #52
                                    Hey guys, don't say anything bad to coins. He will start whining and say he won't post anymore if ya don't leave him alone. He's the type that likes to leave and take his ball with him. Guy has no life BUT posting. 50k posts +. Wow
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                                    • 2daBank
                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                      • 01-26-09
                                      • 88966

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Big Bear
                                      bank do u like the mets tonight?
                                      i dunno..honestly when i ran thru the card the 1st time i really didnt see one side i was in love with, several totals..hard to even wrap my head around betting on harvey as i almost always bet against him, nothing to do with him as he a stud but it a lot like when stras 1st came up books have to give these lines on these kids but basically you overpaying for a bad team with a really good starter, how many gms has harvey went 7/8 innings giving up 1 or 2 runs and lost? quite a few if im not mistaken. i guess at least tonight you getting him a lot cheaper and while that all relative cause he cheaper cause they in sf compared to playing some shit team at home, at same time case could be made sf is in fact a shit team right now..not sure if ill play but i wont be against him, for the 1st time in a while i actually understand ppl taking him tonight, id think if i was going to do so id strongly consider ff or at lest splitting between ff and gm..
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                                      • billysink
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 03-29-09
                                        • 5172

                                        #54
                                        I will leave all this regression talk of XFIP, PEE PEE, run support, the runs and any other who haw hee to the resident geniuses of the baseball community.

                                        The key to this game is command and the ability of the A's to control the count against ANY lefthanded pitcher and the fact that they as a team crush the knuckle curve which has been Locke's bread and butter. On the other side of the coin the Pirates don't hit the change for jack. That ain't gonna work against the world's fattest science project.
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                                        • Chi_archie
                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                          • 07-22-08
                                          • 63172

                                          #55
                                          Come need a big inning for my overs
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                                          • chantrain
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 03-14-11
                                            • 3244

                                            #56
                                            fukk me, pirates can't score

                                            about to lose 3 in a row. best team in baseball lol
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                                            • chantrain
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 03-14-11
                                              • 3244

                                              #57
                                              Stranded 10 runners ARE YOU FUKKIN SERIOUS
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