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  • easyliving
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 06-25-12
    • 8876

    #1
    Fade Alert Jeff Locke
    6-1 with a 2.01 ERA. He also benefits from pitching his home games at PNC park. However no way is this as good as his numbers suggest and he is due for some regression. Starting tomorrow with the Seattle Mariners I will start fading him and will likely fade him until the all star break as books are likely to adjust their lines as he likely is a big public bet at this point.With some patience this fade should be profitable.

    game 1: Mariners+111
  • No coincidences
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 01-18-10
    • 76300

    #2
    Couldn't agree more. I might hammer Seattle tomorrow night; hate Saunders, but his home numbers are nothing to scoff at.
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    • Guinser
      SBR Sharp
      • 11-04-10
      • 461

      #3
      Bad decision..wrong team/pitcher to fade atm. I wouldn't even bet mariners tomorrow against gomez with the king that offense is super amenic
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      • El Nino
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 05-03-12
        • 18426

        #4
        Brock loves Saunders at home. Factor that into your models
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        • Ghenghis Kahn
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 01-02-12
          • 19734

          #5
          out of all the games tomorrow, you pick this game?
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          • billysink
            Restricted User
            • 03-29-09
            • 5172

            #6
            The guy benefits from pitching at PNC so you think Safeco is a good place to factor that in?

            Why could you not wait for Locke to face a team that can hit the knuckle curve, change up or curveball. The Mariners are terrible against that offspeed stuff. Until you see this guy pitch a few times through you are dead in the water. Fukkin kid throws 6 pitches for strikes.

            Regression is a great theory to profitability but regression starts with reason. On its own it is just a thought.

            Can you give us some reason why this is the start Locke goes backwards because I don't see it.
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            • Big Bear
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 11-01-11
              • 43253

              #7
              Originally posted by billysink
              The guy benefits from pitching at PNC so you think Safeco is a good place to factor that in?

              Why could you not wait for Locke to face a team that can hit the knuckle curve, change up or curveball. The Mariners are terrible against that offspeed stuff. Until you see this guy pitch a few times through you are dead in the water. Fukkin kid throws 6 pitches for strikes.

              Regression is a great theory to profitability but regression starts with reason. On its own it is just a thought.

              Can you give us some reason why this is the start Locke goes backwards because I don't see it.
              Well said Billy. This guy has great stuff and keeps everything low in the strike zone.

              I watched an interview with Locke and he said he learns a lot from AJ Burnett and AJ told him once when he was getting hit hard
              "pound down" and Locke said he has stuck with that approach ever since. It's a simple strategy but when you have stuff like Locke they cant hurt you if you keep it low
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              • easyliving
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 06-25-12
                • 8876

                #8
                line is down to even money glad I took this overnight
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                • OhMyEli
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-17-12
                  • 1164

                  #9
                  Originally posted by billysink
                  The guy benefits from pitching at PNC so you think Safeco is a good place to factor that in?

                  Why could you not wait for Locke to face a team that can hit the knuckle curve, change up or curveball. The Mariners are terrible against that offspeed stuff. Until you see this guy pitch a few times through you are dead in the water. Fukkin kid throws 6 pitches for strikes.

                  Regression is a great theory to profitability but regression starts with reason. On its own it is just a thought.

                  Can you give us some reason why this is the start Locke goes backwards because I don't see it.
                  Wow we need more posts like this and less by clowns and guys who post every time they sneeze
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                  • Grizzlies918
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 05-29-12
                    • 371

                    #10
                    I really don't get all the posts about the guy benefiting from pitching at PNC Park. In 8 starts on the road this year, he has an ERA of 1.64, WHIP of 1.07, and hitters are only hitting .182 against him. I think he'll be a nightmare for Seattle batters. There are no stats that show regression.
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                    • easyliving
                      SBR Hall of Famer
                      • 06-25-12
                      • 8876

                      #11
                      pitching again tomorrow against the Phillies. Phillies +151 to continue the fade.
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                      • Big Bear
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 11-01-11
                        • 43253

                        #12
                        lol this guey
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                        • italianbandit
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-17-11
                          • 2622

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Grizzlies918
                          I really don't get all the posts about the guy benefiting from pitching at PNC Park. In 8 starts on the road this year, he has an ERA of 1.64, WHIP of 1.07, and hitters are only hitting .182 against him. I think he'll be a nightmare for Seattle batters. There are no stats that show regression.
                          Are you nuts, his xFIP is double his ERA and he averages almost 4 walks per 9 innings.

                          Fielding Independent Pitching (FIP) measures what a player’s ERA would look like over a given period of time if the pitcher were to have experienced league average results on balls in play and league…
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                          • italianbandit
                            SBR MVP
                            • 05-17-11
                            • 2622

                            #14
                            Easy you should also look at Phillies +1.5
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                            • 19th Hole
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 03-22-09
                              • 18954

                              #15
                              ?????????


                              It appears the Pittsburgh Pirates paid a small price for their ninth straight victory, as a brief bullpen session in the 14th inning from Jeff Locke has them in need of a starter for their opener against Philadelphia.
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                              • Chi_archie
                                SBR Aristocracy
                                • 07-22-08
                                • 63172

                                #16
                                If Locke doesn't go I think we might see Brandon Cumpton again

                                I agree that he is due to regress pretty big time according to his FIP and other sabr stats.

                                he is actually quite a bit better on the road, so you can put that benefitting from home theory away for now.

                                ERA BAA
                                home 2.48 .227
                                Away 1.76 .176

                                he has alot more SO's away as well, so maybe he pitches to contact more when he is home, knowning Cutch and Marte got that left field notch on lockdown
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                                • Chi_archie
                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                  • 07-22-08
                                  • 63172

                                  #17
                                  actually maybe Jeanmar Gomez will be the more likely starter
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                                  • Big Bear
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 11-01-11
                                    • 43253

                                    #18
                                    so locke may be scratched ?
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                                    • easyliving
                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                      • 06-25-12
                                      • 8876

                                      #19
                                      take the action before the pitcher changes. Looks like Locke might not go.
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                                      • Big Bear
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 11-01-11
                                        • 43253

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by easyliving
                                        take the action before the pitcher changes. Looks like Locke might not go.
                                        where are yall seeing this?
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                                        • thetrinity
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 01-25-11
                                          • 22430

                                          #21
                                          it looks like locke will start from all ive seen.

                                          there was thought he might have been pushed back but it appears that hes gona go.
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                                          • Big Bear
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 11-01-11
                                            • 43253

                                            #22
                                            i want to know where the story came from about Locke being possibly scratched i cant find it anywhere

                                            did yall just make that up to fukk with people ?!!

                                            ive never heard of such non sense
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                                            • LT Profits
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 10-27-06
                                              • 90963

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by easyliving
                                              take the action before the pitcher changes. Looks like Locke might not go.
                                              That won't benefit anyone in any way, if Locke is scratched, price is revised to the new opening number.
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                                              • whtsox13
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 05-02-12
                                                • 1401

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Big Bear
                                                i want to know where the story came from about Locke being possibly scratched i cant find it anywhere

                                                did yall just make that up to fukk with people ?!!

                                                ive never heard of such non sense
                                                After an exhaustive thirty second internet search I found it on a little known website for sports information called ESPN? Scroll down to 'game notes'
                                                Expert recap and game analysis of the Pittsburgh Pirates vs. Milwaukee Brewers MLB game from June 30, 2013 on ESPN.


                                                You sure this is how you want to spend your days, BigBeer?
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                                                • LT Profits
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 10-27-06
                                                  • 90963

                                                  #25
                                                  Back on point (and assuming Locke goes), I think tonight is a good spot to fade him, I got Phils +174. Wasn't going to in +150s but couldn't resist at current number.
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                                                  • mik5058
                                                    SBR Hustler
                                                    • 06-03-10
                                                    • 74

                                                    #26
                                                    Locke scratched. Cumpton is pitching.
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                                                    • drfunkmaster
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-29-08
                                                      • 11162

                                                      #27
                                                      Tue 7/2 901 Philadelphia Phillies J Pettibone - R <input id="checkboxx" name="S1_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="M1_0" type="checkBox">+151 <input id="checkboxx" name="L1_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="E1_0" type="checkBox">o3½ -115 <input id="checkboxx" name="E3_0" type="checkBox">u3½ -105
                                                      7:05PM 902 Pittsburgh Pirates B Cumpton - R <input id="checkboxx" name="S2_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="M2_0" type="checkBox">-161 <input id="checkboxx" name="L2_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="E2_0" type="checkBox">o4½ -105 <input id="checkboxx" name="E4_0" type="checkBox">u4½ -115
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                                                      • ThingsFallApart
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 12-24-10
                                                        • 880

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by drfunkmaster
                                                        Tue 7/2 901 Philadelphia Phillies J Pettibone - R <input id="checkboxx" name="S1_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="M1_0" type="checkBox">+151 <input id="checkboxx" name="L1_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="E1_0" type="checkBox">o3½ -115 <input id="checkboxx" name="E3_0" type="checkBox">u3½ -105
                                                        7:05PM 902 Pittsburgh Pirates B Cumpton - R <input id="checkboxx" name="S2_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="M2_0" type="checkBox">-161 <input id="checkboxx" name="L2_0" type="checkBox"> <input id="checkboxx" name="E2_0" type="checkBox">o4½ -105 <input id="checkboxx" name="E4_0" type="checkBox">u4½ -115
                                                        I've been fooled too many times into taking a shitty team just because one player is out. Phillies below +175 not worth it.
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                                                        • RavensFan2k3
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 08-18-12
                                                          • 17378

                                                          #29
                                                          I'm still seeing Locke starting...I think this is a terrible spot to fade Locke. It's more like a good spot to fade Pettibone...
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                                                          • Louisvillekid1
                                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                                            • 10-17-07
                                                            • 52143

                                                            #30
                                                            locke is out,

                                                            My wager is now Phills +145 from +171
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                                                            • RavensFan2k3
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 08-18-12
                                                              • 17378

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                              locke is out,

                                                              My wager is now Phills +145 from +171
                                                              Really? Why? Does Locke being out stop the Pirates from hitting Pettibone, which I plan on the doing?
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                                                              • Louisvillekid1
                                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                                • 10-17-07
                                                                • 52143

                                                                #32
                                                                Well the price at +171 was too good to pass up, and It was an Action Bet.

                                                                So while I don't like the play as much w/ the change and the price 26 cent drop, I'm letting it Ride.
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                                                                • Chi_archie
                                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                                  • 07-22-08
                                                                  • 63172

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by Louisvillekid1
                                                                  Well the price at +171 was too good to pass up, and It was an Action Bet.

                                                                  So while I don't like the play as much w/ the change and the price 26 cent drop, I'm letting it Ride.

                                                                  You think 26 cents is too steep a drop from a top 5 pitcher in the NL so far to a guy that would never have seen a MLB roster unless 7 guys got hurt?
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                                                                  • Bdolan33
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 05-02-12
                                                                    • 1255

                                                                    #34
                                                                    and of course none of the predicted scenarios happen. locke is throwing a scoreless game, and the pirates havent touched pettibone for 1 run. were wasting our time boys.
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                                                                    • Chi_archie
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 07-22-08
                                                                      • 63172

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Actually Locke has not given up a hit or walk or allowed ANY base runner today.
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