Enough with the MJ/Lebron Comparisons

[InTheDrink]

shove your regular season stats and other nonsense up your ass

this is PLAYOFFS when it matters...there is NO down period for MJ

1984-85	21	CHI	NBA	SG	4	4	42.8	8.5	19.5	.436	0.3	2.0	.125	12.0	14.5	.828	1.8	4.0	5.8	8.5	2.8	1.0	3.8	3.8	29.3
1985-86	22	CHI	NBA	SG	3	3	45.0	16.0	31.7	.505	0.3	0.3	1.000	11.3	13.0	.872	1.7	4.7	6.3	5.7	2.3	1.3	4.7	4.3	43.7
1986-87	23	CHI	NBA	SG	3	3	42.7	11.7	28.0	.417	0.7	1.7	.400	11.7	13.0	.897	2.3	4.7	7.0	6.0	2.0	2.3	2.7	3.7	35.7
1987-88	24	CHI	NBA	SG	10	10	42.7	13.8	26.0	.531	0.1	0.3	.333	8.6	9.9	.869	2.3	4.8	7.1	4.7	2.4	1.1	3.9	3.8	36.3
1988-89	25	CHI	NBA	SG	17	17	42.2	11.7	22.9	.510	0.6	2.1	.286	10.8	13.5	.799	1.5	5.5	7.0	7.6	2.5	0.8	4.0	3.8	34.8
1989-90	26	CHI	NBA	SG	16	16	42.1	13.7	26.6	.514	1.0	3.1	.320	8.3	9.9	.836	1.5	5.7	7.2	6.8	2.8	0.9	3.5	3.4	36.7
1990-91	27	CHI	NBA	SG	17	17	40.5	11.6	22.1	.524	0.6	1.5	.385	7.4	8.7	.845	1.1	5.3	6.4	8.4	2.4	1.4	2.5	3.1	31.1
1991-92	28	CHI	NBA	SG	22	22	41.8	13.2	26.4	.499	0.8	2.0	.386	7.4	8.6	.857	1.7	4.5	6.2	5.8	2.0	0.7	3.7	2.8	34.5
1992-93	29	CHI	NBA	SG	19	19	41.2	13.2	27.8	.475	1.5	3.8	.389	7.2	8.9	.805	1.7	5.1	6.7	6.0	2.1	0.9	2.4	3.1	35.1
1994-95	31	CHI	NBA	SG	10	10	42.0	12.0	24.8	.484	1.1	3.0	.367	6.4	7.9	.810	2.0	4.5	6.5	4.5	2.3	1.4	4.1	3.0	31.5
1995-96	32	CHI	NBA	SG	18	18	40.7	10.4	22.6	.459	1.4	3.4	.403	8.5	10.4	.818	1.7	3.2	4.9	4.1	1.8	0.3	2.3	2.7	30.7
1996-97	33	CHI	NBA	SG	19	19	42.3	11.9	26.2	.456	0.7	3.5	.194	6.5	7.8	.831	2.2	5.7	7.9	4.8	1.6	0.9	2.6	2.4	31.1
1997-98	34	CHI	NBA	SG	21	21	41.5	11.6	25.0	.462	0.6	2.0	.302	8.6	10.6	.812	1.6	3.5	5.1	3.5	1.5	0.6	2.1	2.2	32.4
Career			NBA		179	179	41.8	12.2	25.1	.487	0.8	2.5	.332	8.2	9.9	.828	1.7	4.7	6.4	5.7	2.1	0.9	3.1	3.0	33.4

[MoYaL]

LeChoke is noway near MJ .
I would rather have Kobe's career over LeChoke career .

[Kindred]

LeChoke is noway near MJ .
I would rather have Kobe's career over LeChoke career .

[InTheDrink]

where is milwaukee mike now

[BennyBigNuts]

There's never been comparisons in reality.
Kobe had way more playoff comparisons than Lechoke has.
It's not even a discussion. Lechoke is not only the biggest pussy of all-time for scheming the heat big 3, but still is a proven loser in lots of big games.
There is no question he's the best player in the game all around. But he will never be on the same planet as Jordan.
If Jordan played today he would average 40 a game on these guys with no hand-checking allowed and refs calling everything.

[InTheDrink]

There's never been comparisons in reality.
Kobe had way more playoff comparisons than Lechoke has.
It's not even a discussion. Lechoke is not only the biggest pussy of all-time for scheming the heat big 3, but still is a proven loser in lots of big games.
There is no question he's the best player in the game all around. But he will never be on the same planet as Jordan.
If Jordan played today he would average 40 a game on these guys with no hand-checking allowed and refs calling everything.

there was a lonnnnng thread of sbr morons who were begging to differ earlier this year

[ramones951]

LeBum disappointed me tonight

I would have supported LeBrick if it weren't for tonight

Next game is crucial for his legacy IMO... wouldn't be surprised to see a 35+ point game from LeBron but still potentially a Heat loss

[Smoke]

Ship me 10 wulfhousen

[ChalkyDog]

MJ never was beaten this badly in a finals. NEVER.

36 point drubbing never was even approached. The worst loss he suffered was against the Sonics, and that was a low 20 pt blow out.

James is a much more physically gifted athlete, and he is playing in a much weaker era.

36 pts. Unreal.

Best player on earth. Just shows how bad of shape the NBA talent pool is.

[rcene]

That was a massacre

[Louisvillekid1]

Why can't MJ be MJ and LeBron be LeBron...

[Smoke]

Agree with this but you have to admit its kinda funny for a guey to have a gf/wife with a black child

[SportsPedagogy]

In fact, Jordan has scored more points in the playoffs than anyone, ever, in NBA history, with 5,987 points.

His amazing career playoff scoring average is an all-time high 33.45 points per game!

He set records by having the most 50-point playoff games with eight.

His 38 games in the playoffs with 40-plus points is the most ever, and his all-time record of 30-plus point playoff games totals 109. He also had more 20-plus point games than anyone ever with 173.

Jordan is the only player ever in NBA history to score at least 15 points in every single playoff game he ever played in. He played in 179 career playoff games (not a record).

In the playoffs versus Cleveland in 1988, Jordan scored 50 points and then 55 the next game, which makes him the only player ever in the playoffs to score 50-plus points, consecutively. He did the same with three straight over-45 point games in the playoffs, also a record.

In one span, Jordan tabulated over 20 points, 60 consecutive times, which is an all-time NBA playoff record. So is his 15-plus point playoff game record of 179 (all his playoff games ever).

In fact, no other player ever has even scored 10-plus points in 179 straight games. Jordan’s lowest playoff points game was 15.

[Scorpion]

It's not even a discussion. Lechoke is not only the biggest pussy of all-time for scheming the heat big 3, but still is a proven loser in lots of big games.
.

bingo

lebron sucks donkey kok

[cwnotorious]

Obviously jordan has better scoring numbers than lebron cuz he is a better shooter/scorer period, but what about rebounds, assists, defense? When you have pippen and rodman doing all the dirty work and guarding the other teams best players u are free on offense. Before u guys jump all over me, no I don't think lbj is better than mj. I think louisvillekid put it best, let mj be mj and bron be bron. I would still rather start my franchise with lebron over kobe though.

[eidolon]

Lebron could have made every single shot he took plus taken 10 more shots and made them, and they still would have lost. Lebron's fault?

[InTheDrink]

Lebron could have made every single shot he took plus taken 10 more shots and made them, and they still would have lost. Lebron's fault?

Did he do that?

You win dumbest post of the day

He's the leader of the team and they got smokered

[blankoblanco]

MJ himself said the only guy from this era who should be compared to him is Kobe, while everyone else was trying to make it Lebron. I guess he knew what he was talking about? Kobe is of course no MJ either, but the guy is a winner and his killer instinct in big games is the next best thing we've had in the past 15 yrs. You think prime Kobe would let them play 5 feet off him and be scared to shoot jumpers? No because that's pathetic. Kobe might miss 15 of them but he'll still shoot them and fully believe that the next shot is going in. That's an MJ-esque quality Lebron doesn't have.

[eidolon]

Did he do that?

You win dumbest post of the day

He's the leader of the team and they got smokered

Obviously you completely missed my point.
Carry on with your blinders.

[R.P. McMurphy]

Enough with the comparisons completely I say. Different players, styles, positions, size, eras on and on. Only thing MJ and Bron have in common are they both superstars and the best all-around athlete/player the NBA has in their era! End of fukking story!! Bill Russell has more rings than anyone so is he the best ever? ... No. Great player but lets face the facts their were a third of the teams in the league when he played opposed to 2013, and he was surrounded by greatness as well. Bottom line many factors play into TEAMS winning titles it's not just one guy who should get all the credit or blame.

[InTheDrink]

Obviously you completely missed my point.
Carry on with your blinders.

I addressed your last sentence which was your "point". Would you care to explain any other part of your moronic post?

[Thor4140]

Obviously jordan has better scoring numbers than lebron cuz he is a better shooter/scorer period, but what about rebounds, assists, defense? When you have pippen and rodman doing all the dirty work and guarding the other teams best players u are free on offense. Before u guys jump all over me, no I don't think lbj is better than mj. I think louisvillekid put it best, let mj be mj and bron be bron. I would still rather start my franchise with lebron over kobe though.

Jordan was the best defensive player as well as the best offensive player in his era. Jordan's defense would shut down Lebron. Lebron defense would not shut down Jordan.

[ChalkyDog]

Lebron could have made every single shot he took plus taken 10 more shots and made them, and they still would have lost. Lebron's fault?

The Heat are 30-1 when LeBron scores 30 points.

Rethink your post.

It really is as simple as LeBron stop being a bitch, and take over a fukking game. How hard is it, for a guy so much better than anyone else on the planet, much less this floor?

If MJ needed to score 30 points to win - guess what, MJ gonna get them 30 points.

[eidolon]

I addressed your last sentence which was your "point". Would you care to explain any other part of your moronic post?

[InTheDrink]

Don't get mad that you made a stupid post. Just go with it and move on.

[Walulu]

Jordan was the best defensive player as well as the best offensive player in his era. Jordan's defense would shut down Lebron. Lebron defense would not shut down Jordan.

I wouldn't go this far. He only won one defensive player of the year award I believe and Mutombo several in same period. He was a great defensive player though. No time off at either end of court.

[Hadley13]

Aww no wonder, at least 70 percent of the guys on this forum suck at sports betting..

[R.P. McMurphy]

Another thing you have to consider if you understand sports and the dynamics of a team. MJ always had a better "team" and obviously head coach to work with and not just a bunch of thrown together pieces. MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Kerr , Armstrong few others had good chemistry and time together and MJ always had a couple other guys show up to help. Another thing Bron is torn between is unlike MJ he has natural instincts to be a facilitator and trust in others. I have always called him a Magic\Michael hybrid which at times may hurt him actually. Not a Bron nut hugger by any means but there is more to look at and consider than just pulling up a #'s spreadsheet as the final verdict it goes deeper than that as any sharp sports fan should know. Stockton and Malone 2 of the greatest ever and anyone who disputes that is crazy but 2 finals appearances and 0 rings with countless playoff failures. Guess that means they suck and are chokers huh?

[R.P. McMurphy]

Guess if you have to do the who's better argument its not far off in any case. Jordan, Magic, Bron, Malone, Ewing are 5 guys who play different positions, styles as individuals. Some have rings some don't but I would start any of the 5 if I had a team without question!

[Mac4Lyfe]

Huh? The Heat have Lebron James, the best player on the planet, DWade, one of the top players in NBA history, considered a top 20 player, Chris Bosh, considered a top 100 all time NBA player, Ray Allen future hall of famer... MJ did not always have the better team. This Miami Heat team purposely colluded together to create a monopoly. I understand you saying "team" but what Miami did is unprecedented.

Another thing you have to consider if you understand sports and the dynamics of a team. MJ always had a better "team" and obviously head coach to work with and not just a bunch of thrown together pieces. MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Kerr , Armstrong few others had good chemistry and time together and MJ always had a couple other guys show up to help. Another thing Bron is torn between is unlike MJ he has natural instincts to be a facilitator and trust in others. I have always called him a Magic\Michael hybrid which at times may hurt him actually. Not a Bron nut hugger by any means but there is more to look at and consider than just pulling up a #'s spreadsheet as the final verdict it goes deeper than that as any sharp sports fan should know. Stockton and Malone 2 of the greatest ever and anyone who disputes that is crazy but 2 finals appearances and 0 rings with countless playoff failures. Guess that means they suck and are chokers huh?

[Gus Fring]

MJ himself said the only guy from this era who should be compared to him is Kobe, while everyone else was trying to make it Lebron. I guess he knew what he was talking about? Kobe is of course no MJ either, but the guy is a winner and his killer instinct in big games is the next best thing we've had in the past 15 yrs. You think prime Kobe would let them play 5 feet off him and be scared to shoot jumpers? No because that's pathetic. Kobe might miss 15 of them but he'll still shoot them and fully believe that the next shot is going in. That's an MJ-esque quality Lebron doesn't have.

Didn't Kobe and the Lakers lose by 30+ to the Celtics in the finals?

[R.P. McMurphy]

What I was referring to was the all around core more than anything Mac And lets face it Wade and Bosh been more headache than anything this post-season for 2 guys with super star status. Just makes me want to slam my head thru a wall when someone brings up this debate and just throws out individual #'s or amount of rings someone has. Horry has more rings than Jordan and one could easily argue just as clutch. So does that make him a better player? Get real

[ThaTopMoron]

Lebron could have made every single shot he took plus taken 10 more shots and made them, and they still would have lost. Lebron's fault?

bafoon

[cwnotorious]

Jordan was the best defensive player as well as the best offensive player in his era. Jordan's defense would shut down Lebron. Lebron defense would not shut down Jordan.

Jordan wasn't even the best defender on his team, that goes to pippen.

[oldscho0led]

Jordan and Kobe takes a game over if needed. LeBron passes it to teammates and let them take over.