Overrated : Matt Harvey

[stevenash]

Corbin's agent.

or the alien space people

[RavensFan2k3]

19 innings!!!

[gryfyn1]

Even by the low standards this site generally sets, there is ALOT of stupid in this thread

[Dirty Sanchez]

I mean but for reals, you can argue that he is undefeated... and that he had the best start to the early season of any pitcher, but every single time he is about to get destroyed he gets yanked. They are saving his record, to make him look better? Most likely.

Never fukkin heard of ya pal

[Vinnie Paz]

This game wont end tonight

BUT....


It WILL go over

[You mad bro]

Fck moron just got buried .. Again 7 innings and 1 er but nothing to show for it .. Mets just fckn sck

Put this kid on a relevant team and he easily has 10+ wins

[stevenash]

Fck moron just got buried .. Again 7 innings and 1 er but nothing to show for it .. Mets just fckn sck

Put this kid on a relevant team and he easily has 10+ wins

Put this kid on a relevant team he goes to the Hall of Fame.

Now I know how Steve Carlton felt winning 27 for that crappy team.

[Chi_archie]

very very talented and SHOULD have a great career.

but until the league sees him a few times and he settles in, you can't just assume he'll always be great.

I've seen pitchers come in and be dominant for a year or half year and then turn into tomato cans in a year or a few short years.

seems like the age of a Maddux or Randy Johnson type long term ace is passing as by to make those very very very rare species

[No coincidences]

seems like the age of a Maddux or Randy Johnson type long term ace is passing as by to make those very very very rare species

Don't remember with RJ, but Maddux was a gascan with the Cubs before going to Atlanta.

It's funny how some guys start like gangbusters and then fizzle, while others take a few years to get settled in. You just never know. Harvey's stuff is A+++, that's all I can say at this point.

[5mike5]

Even by the low standards this site generally sets, there is ALOT of stupid in this thread

thats really nothing new, it the norm in about 99 of every 100 threads on sbr, especially in PT

[whtsox13]

Don't remember with RJ, but Maddux was a gascan with the Cubs before going to Atlanta.

It's funny how some guys start like gangbusters and then fizzle, while others take a few years to get settled in. You just never know. Harvey's stuff is A+++, that's all I can say at this point.

Check Maddux's stats 1988-1992 with Cubs the five seasons before he went to ATL - 18, 19, 15, 15, 20 wins. And that was with some pretty awful teams behind him.

[Swarles]

I don't see why you are trying to one up man. I'm just making good argument. It's from covers.com if you are wondering. Can see you also love Harvey's balls.

[Swarles]

Never fukkin heard of ya pal

Never heard of you either...?

[No coincidences]

Check Maddux's stats 1988-1992 with Cubs the five seasons before he went to ATL - 18, 19, 15, 15, 20 wins. And that was with some pretty awful teams behind him.

I meant when he first started. His first two seasons were abysmal.

[Chi_archie]

I meant when he first started. His first two seasons were abysmal.

I'd really only count 1 season as the first year he made appearances was really just a cup of coffee..

but yeah it is crazy how some show very little promise at first.

even Randy Johnson took awhile to get going. I remember watching his debut in Montreal, as the Pirate KBL channel started the broadcast with a short video of big unit standing with a little hustler named John Cangelosi who was listed as 5'6 maybe but was closer to 5'4.

I just recalled that it was Zach Duke I was thinking of.

his rookie season was sensational, but the next year he was statisically the most hittable pitcher in the league, and pretty much kept that up the rest of his career.

where that short rookie season magic went? I don't know

[whtsox13]

Don't remember with RJ, but Maddux was a gascan with the Cubs before going to Atlanta.

It's funny how some guys start like gangbusters and then fizzle, while others take a few years to get settled in. You just never know. Harvey's stuff is A+++, that's all I can say at this point.

I meant when he first started. His first two seasons were abysmal.

Agreed. He was a gascan with the Cubs for 2 seasons before pitching 5 great seasons for them before going to Atlanta for $ and a World Series ring.

[stevenash]

I don't argue with stupid. You can't win.
Good night all.

[Andy117]

Look, all im saying is that anytime he gets into a bad situation further into a game, nearing an 100+ pitch count, he gets yanked. I just think its funny. I mean kudos to the coaching staff for getting him out of there in time to have a chance to win.

This is the era of the pitch count, no one throws 120+ pitches too often.

And as far as ERA I can think of a few runs that were "earned" by Harvey that were caused by horrific defense behind him.

[You mad bro]

Put this kid on a relevant team he goes to the Hall of Fame.

Now I know how Steve Carlton felt winning 27 for that crappy team.

Why people even bother posting about sports is beyond me . I know im a troll but at least i have a clue .. Smh these kids have no idea

[stevenash]

Why people even bother posting about sports is beyond me . I know im a troll but at least i have a clue .. Smh these kids have no idea

Your'e more of a wise ass than a troll, but yeah, you have a clue, at least you 'get it'

[BennyBigNuts]

I mean but for reals, you can argue that he is undefeated... and that he had the best start to the early season of any pitcher, but every single time he is about to get destroyed he gets yanked. They are saving his record, to make him look better? Most likely.

Can we give this dumbfukk (Obviously a Yankee fan because no one else would post something so stupid unless he wants attention) the homo post of the month award?

[Swarles]

I don't see why you're all still so offended by this.

[BennyBigNuts]

I don't see why you're all still so offended by this.

No one's offended, you're just a fukkin dumbass.
Sound like a toolbox Yankee fan who's never even watched the guy pitch.
Get educated.

[NY Sports Nut]

Love how people criticizes when they are losing money.This guy prob lost a ton of money betting on games when harvey pitches but you should notice your not backing harvey your backing the muts lineup. Its hard for a pitcher to win getting 0 runs on the board 3 the most. I went to the harvey kuroda game where the mets got the walk off win vs mo and this guy has electric gas. Seemed like the ball was at home plate the sec he released it.

[Monchito]

NYM are the most awful team this year for lose in home against a team with the worst record by now, But nor Harvey all umpires decisions depends of charms of players, and im pretty sure Umpires are decide wrong with Harvey ! but sports are FIXED

[NY Sports Nut]

Get a life monch if its fixed why are you here

[You mad bro]

Guys a top 3 pitcher in the league .. Guy is just mad he loses money betting those -200 met lines .. So he loses and blames Harvey for only giving up 1 run instead of 0 .. Dumbass

[Swarles]

Can say that I've never bet on Harvey, nor against him. Because I realize how good he Is. So keep trying kids. You're only rustling your own feathers.

[Swarles]

Oh benjerman.

[Ratpack]

hes good guys but lets not forget hes faced the marlins 4 times the cubs white sox yankees when they were on their bad streak he hasnt faced any juggarnaut offenses yet. The only time he faced a REAL good lineup was the reds and he got 4 runs put up on him.

[OMGRandyJackson]

Look, all im saying is that anytime he gets into a bad situation further into a game, nearing an 100+ pitch count

You are trolling right? In 13 games, hes only had under 100 pitches, 3 games and of those 3 games, he went 7ip in 2 of them.

I would suggest you check out this website called Baseball Reference. Its really handy, it lets you search ANY MLB player and view ALL KINDS OF STATS! http://www.baseball-reference.com

Pitching with a 1 run lead opposed to a 3-4 run lead is helps a pitchers mental state on the mound ..

You do realize Corbin actually has run support? He avg 5.1 runs per game. You would also do well using this fancy site called http://www.baseball-reference.com

[You mad bro]

You are trolling right? In 13 games, hes only had under 100 pitches, 3 games and of those 3 games, he went 7ip in 2 of them.

I would suggest you check out this website called Baseball Reference. Its really handy, it lets you search ANY MLB player and view ALL KINDS OF STATS! http://www.baseball-reference.com



You do realize Corbin actually has run support? He avg 5.1 runs per game. You would also do well using this fancy site called http://www.baseball-reference.com

I said earlier Corbin has pitched on a team with a better offense ....

I was talking about Harvey with the 1 run lead if that and Corbin with 3-4 ... Nice one tho

[You mad bro]

Another 7 inning performance from Harvey today ... But he's overrated with his 2.16 era right

[BeatingBaseball]

Only 13 punch outs in 7 innings - run of the mill - you see that all the time.

[DeezusWINSTREAKT]

This website is awesome, omg randy! Thx